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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:47:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZQEvg1V0Y
Yep...
Sad part is that is from 05, better engine trails, shield hits, better weapon impacts, better explosions, drones that launch and land in a bay, miss effects that show and look way better.
Maybe the summer exp can be Eve: Nexus |
Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:51:00 -
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thats a pre rendered trailer. please link to nexus the game and i would (partially) agree if you speak of physics and weapon effects. a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:51:00 -
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epic doublepost a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:52:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZQEvg1V0Y
Yep...
Sad part is that is from 05, better engine trails, shield hits, better weapon impacts, better explosions, drones that launch and land in a bay, miss effects that show and look way better.
Maybe the summer exp can be Eve: Nexus cool, its a rendered trailer for a game that never came out. |
Opertone
Signal 7
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:58:00 -
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Check out X the series. Single player, open ended, never ending. Breathtaking, never want to quit playing (even though you are always solo). Music, it wins the game, all of the series.
I came to eve from X series. X-tension, X-btf, X2, X3 - reunion. Very good atmospheric game, with combat, fittings, economics, political and military influence. More exploration, space is unknown and uncharted, steep learning curve, very good combat and market AI. Can have factories. More focused on industry and technological process whereas EvE is focused on markets and post production product lifecycle.
also: made in Europe |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:59:00 -
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Ah this video again.
You didn't post the good one where the guy has his ships fly into the atmosphere of the planet and his ship heats up. Yeah, that game engine is pretty and he released a movie in 2011 that pooped on the one you just linked.
What he's doing is amazing and looks great. However, the tech behind EVE is from the late 90's. When EVE was first built, the code and development they initially used was older. That game you linked has been in development for almost 8 years now and still hasn't gotten any funding from a publisher or dev.
It's pretty, and it can do some nice things. Keep in mind, that game started it's development 3-4 tech generations after EVE online was released to the public. So, it should look better. While the game looks nice and seems to do some cool things, it still has a lot of problems with it's engine.
Anyway, here's another video of the combat, holyfucksticks this looks boring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBxbXZ8ahLU&feature=related
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thrasherht
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:01:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:thats a pre rendered trailer. please link to nexus the game and i would (partially) agree if you speak of physics and weapon effects.
Pre-rendered in 2005, meaning that computers now, and graphics engines now are more then capable of doing that live rendered. I am pretty sure my 580 can keep up with those graphics no problem.
Oh by the way, I am actually playing nexus right now. The damage effects on the ships are better. the explosions are better. the engines look WAY better. The weapon fire looks better. The effects of blowing up look better. The only thing that doesn't look better is the ambient background out in space. |
Ordais
DARK ORCHESTRA
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:05:00 -
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Just watch youtube-battles from "Nexus: The Jupiter Incident", way better presentation then EVE ever had.
What i always missed is some massive explosions that show Capital Ships breaking apart. But hey, we play zoomed out anyways right? |
Rikki Sals
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:06:00 -
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I really like some of the effects there, but the textures and designs are a bit bland. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:07:00 -
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Id like to see you try that again while loading up about 50 ships on the same screen or try 100 ships hell 300 ships just for kicks and giggles.
Also nexus was cancelled twice. They're having a fund raiser now but its not doing to well.
I remember the trailer for mech warrior 2, There are some games I still havent seen games that good yet.
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:08:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:thats a pre rendered trailer. please link to nexus the game and i would (partially) agree if you speak of physics and weapon effects.
Psh, here is the orginal game, in HD, I really don't think the trailer is wrong for the upgrade of it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6PRJMddV4E
Note I am not talking about the game play... I am talking effects, the effects are SOOO much better... also lets note this game is from 2004.
Also nexus 2 is in post production... feel free to donate...
http://www.games-plant.com/nexus2/
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:16:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Id like to see you try that again while loading up about 50 ships on the same screen or try 100 ships hell 300 ships just for kicks and giggles.
Eve already is making lag a feature, we could have lowered effects as well... O wait... don't people do that already? No brackets etc?
This would look epic in anything going on in HS... missions, wars, small gang pvp...
Look at the engine trails alone... In eve, you have the main engine graphic, and it extends PAST the trail (lolz)
The misses are for your client only, looking at another persons ship they are all hits (so my testing has shown).
Look at WiS eve was like O let's come out with... 1 room was maxing out a vid card... please...
The miss effects alone are way better than the half ass **** eve gave us.
CCP wants the super great sci fi game... yet really... it looks so crappy, cause again... remember this was done in 2004.... **04** |
Ordais
DARK ORCHESTRA
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:22:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Id like to see you try that again while loading up about 50 ships on the same screen or try 100 ships hell 300 ships just for kicks and giggles.
Also nexus was cancelled twice. They're having a fund raiser now but its not doing to well.
Shouldnt you know better then this Nova as you are interested in graphics? Well...maybe you dont't understand the tecnical part behind it.
Loading this stuff with 50 ships (which JTL did already do) is no problem, and loading 500 right now closerange in EVE brings your client to its knees too, so what?
Doing it while zoomed out its what LoD is for, what lower settings are for, and dynamic loading is for. Don't spread rumors that the hardware is not powerfull enough today to do what was displayed there 2005, because its just not true.
Doing it with DX11 routines is even better performance wise and can give you immense detail closerange. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:22:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:Eve already is making lag a feature So do they pay well in Hungary? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
XY Zed
The Place where all good Souls go to die
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:27:00 -
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They are making a sequel!! Right now the original devs are trying to raise funds at http://www.games-plant.com/nexus2/ but funds wont be taken unless they reach their goal. It was such an awesome game and deserves a sequel.
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Vallek Arkonnis
Cosmic Cimmerians The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:28:00 -
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Let's not forget EVE is an MMO, Nexus is not. Yes, it does make a performance difference. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:32:00 -
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Pretend Dev harder.
Im sorry but the miss and hit thing is a traffic problem not a real graphics problem.
Phsyics engine is also bad for same reason traffic and network problem.
WiS technology is only shared with one other game at this very moment. Battlefield 3 and on console it only runs at 30fps and unlike incarna Battlefield people models are not that worried about how many warp points there are in people. so one incarna person can easily outweigh the performance of 10 copy pasted soldiers.
Engine thrusts are part of the ship model. Engine a seperate entinty anchored onto the model.
I could go on listing hundreds of stupid things and interations the bottom point is, when its an mmo its a learning process you have room to stumble and improve. Also find me another mmo thats is old as eve and is still around and has better graphics.
Next Moot Point
Art Direction. Learn it.
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Jodis Talvanen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:34:00 -
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:35:00 -
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Ordais wrote:Nova Fox wrote:Id like to see you try that again while loading up about 50 ships on the same screen or try 100 ships hell 300 ships just for kicks and giggles.
Also nexus was cancelled twice. They're having a fund raiser now but its not doing to well.
Shouldnt you know better then this Nova as you are interested in graphics? Well...maybe you dont't understand the tecnical part behind it. Loading this stuff with 50 ships (which JTL did already do) is no problem, and loading 500 right now closerange in EVE brings your client to its knees too, so what? Doing it while zoomed out its what LoD is for, what lower settings are for, and dynamic loading is for. Don't spread rumors that the hardware is not powerfull enough today to do what was displayed there 2005, because its just not true. Doing it with DX11 routines is even better performance wise and can give you immense detail closerange.
I wasnt talking about LOD featuers I was talking about CPU/Memory cycles of all the damn AI thinking. Some games AI is computer breaking. Halo oddly enough comes to mind as one of the smartest AI systems out there. (It observes, weights, communicates then executes) where other shooters just follow a complicated script of shoot player A with said tools.
You also have to forget it is an MMO there are players out there playing eve on a 10 year old laptop still and its thier only computer.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:43:00 -
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Opertone wrote:Check out X the series. Single player, open ended, never ending. Breathtaking, never want to quit playing (even though you are always solo). Music, it wins the game, all of the series.
I came to eve from X series. X-tension, X-btf, X2, X3 - reunion. Very good atmospheric game, with combat, fittings, economics, political and military influence. More exploration, space is unknown and uncharted, steep learning curve, very good combat and market AI. Can have factories. More focused on industry and technological process whereas EvE is focused on markets and post production product lifecycle.
also: made in Europe
I too come from the x-series (namely X3 Reunion), as I missed an online element.
Regrettably, Egosoft just spoiled X-Rebirth by moving back to a single player ship; until they said that, i was sure to move from EVE and into X-Rebirth when XR was released.
X Series are made in Europe, as EVE. And Egosoft decided they can pretty much ignore 53% of their customer base and go for a controversial design decision against such opposition, much as CCP did a few months ago.
What is wrong with European software developers? So... no affordable NEx store... no full-fledged Incarna... no new casual content... no new solo content... no new PvE content...-á
Why should I keep paying to play this game? |
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:46:00 -
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I like how nova loves to make excuses... idc where the engines are coming from. My point here is this game is from 04, and it looks a hell of alot better than eve.
Now of course, I think at the most you could get 12 people in multi player... But again, this is 04, running on a PC from 04.
Make up what ever you want. In eve, your guns hit what like 3 spots, missles hit INSIDE the center of the ship, inside the model?
Come on, eve is the best we can do in 2011? Soon to be 2012? in 2011, in a mmo, we can not get wepons to inpact the model of the ship but only the center (won't even mention stations, poses, etc)? Give me a break. The ship explosions... suck... cap ship explosions should look way better...
Also do not care about 10 y-o with laptop... should be worried about school... not playing eve.
My laptop don't play eve, idc, I have a desktop for that... and it looks sweet.
I just I saw the miss effects for the first time today... and was so disapointed... and then when only I could see them I just loled. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:53:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:Now of course, I think at the most you could get 12 people in multi player... But again, this is 04, running on a PC from 04. GǪand that was pretty poor, even by '04 standards.
Quote:Also do not care about 10 y-o with laptop... should be worried about school... not playing eve. You should probably re-read that one. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Bane Loppknow
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:53:00 -
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@OP: Only thing in that video that I think could be realistically added to EVE is the last thing you see:
Ship explosions. THAT is how ships should die. Not this weak little puff we have now. |
thrasherht
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
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Posted - 2011.12.03 22:26:00 -
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I would just like to put. This is how an ion thruster is suppose to look. Not the crap we have in eve now.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310726_260692213976111_126238694088131_818701_125587458_n.jpg |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.03 22:45:00 -
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I agree ship explosions is something they can do it would require about 300 new base models but they already did it for some things already such as the titans.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.03 22:49:00 -
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Also Mine craft has some pertty horendous graphics yet its one of the better games out there.
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Kinta Huron
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.03 23:17:00 -
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I just blew a massive load after watching that, and real physics! |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.03 23:37:00 -
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No game today has real physics just imitations of it.
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SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2011.12.03 23:56:00 -
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Meh planets looked good everything else like the animations...meh.
Would be cool if there were hit boxes in eve. Knock out weapons, engines etc. Ships dont only esplode rather get knocked out and can salvage entire ships completely. |
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
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Posted - 2011.12.04 00:14:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:I agree ship explosions is something they can do it would require about 300 new base models but they already did it for some things already such as the titans.
So why does my maller look different? CCP can work on it...
Caps can blow up rather than just sploding into a empty wreck...
lol @ minecraft. I hate that game, cant stand the grahpics...
Everything you post is your opinion... MC is a digital erector set and has NOTHING to do with eve
You must really dislike change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAam9HmeLoE here is a mod to the game... so more updated backrounds, ship models etc...
YES
Psh backround looks just like eve's if not better.
Again someone say no, eve should NEVER have missle trails like that, graphics like that, impacts, etc... |
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