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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 03:44:00 -
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what the hell we were only defending our poses, and did it well. Time and time again we completly roll up your forces in big fleet battles like this, how about stopping blaiming us of using lagsploits, logons, and whatever, and get better at these things?
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swordslasher
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: LeMoose what the hell we were only defending our poses, and did it well. Time and time again we completly roll up your forces in big fleet battles like this, how about stopping blaiming us of using lagsploits, logons, and whatever, and get better at these things?
stop blaming you for logons? what? it didn't happen?
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan 7 page long circle jerk. Nice.
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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 03:57:00 -
[363]
i can tell u what did happen
an alliance that has 2x more pilots hasnt got the guts to face us
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swordslasher
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: LeMoose WAAH WAAH WAAAH WAAAH I'M SUCH A CRAP PILOT I'VE GOT TO LOGONSKI TO KILL ANYTHING.
QFT.
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan 7 page long circle jerk. Nice.
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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: swordslasher
Originally by: LeMoose WAAH WAAH WAAAH WAAAH I'M SUCH A CRAP PILOT I'VE GOT TO LOGONSKI TO KILL ANYTHING.
QFT.
Originally by: swordslasher BahBAHHAH hAhbAHb bAHbhb haabha my alliance posts only 1/3 deathmails
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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:11:00 -
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ur calling me a crap pilot that cant kill anything?
swordslasher / Eye of God = killpoints 107, k/d ratio 14,75/1
LeMoose / The Collective = killpoints 991, k/d ratio 40,5/1.
i guess all my kills are log ons then
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:13:00 -
[367]
Originally by: Svetlanna Plz stop hidding behind loggin trap concept or so... It is getting nowhere but trying to find excuses. Just fight with the number you have which is 99% of the time WAY higher than us. Just admit that and be fair play plz.
On us time zone, AXE has 100 in local 68F when we have 10. SO yes, our Eastern European friends put their alarm clock on, wake up in the middle of the night, and logg in to defend our POS that you choose to attack when most of them are asleep.
Do you understand this?
do their alarm clocks have an "Axe is sieing our pos" time setting? If not i don't see how they knew what time to set their alarms too. Or maybe evil thug is psychic!!!
In rust we trust!!!
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rmfHathor
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:21:00 -
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Thought about this a bit and the question that continually comes to mind is how do you do it?
How do you get soo many pilots to agree on a login trap? I can't think of many alliances that could even their pilots to agree to these particular login/logoff tactics. You guys on the other hand not only get a large percentage of your pilots to do it, its something you take pride in.
On a side note, the whole "axe wont engage us" argument is weak. You lose ships in both primetimes. Don't pretend you don't.
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Haruko Red
Caldari Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:22:00 -
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Edited by: Haruko Red on 29/10/2006 04:22:29
Originally by: Murukan
do their alarm clocks have an "Axe is sieing our pos" time setting? If not i don't see how they knew what time to set their alarms too. Or maybe evil thug is psychic!!!
You know, you almost right. Thug told as to set our clocks on 1:00 am Eve-time. I woke up, login and one minute later i was scrambling dreds. Probably he is a psychic. :) But, tbh, you dont need to be a psychic to guess the time of AXE attack after 3 days of pos attacks with the same pattern.
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Zrevak Ashek
The Blackwater Brigade
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: rmfHathor How do you get soo many pilots to agree on a login trap? I can't think of many alliances that could even their pilots to agree to these particular login/logoff tactics. You guys on the other hand not only get a large percentage of your pilots to do it, its something you take pride in.
It's basically Evil Thugs godlike leadership abilities ...and ofcource his minions love the idea of having a rl psychic on their side
Or its some kinda russian religious cult that found its way to Eve
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swordslasher
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: LeMoose ur calling me a crap pilot that cant kill anything?
swordslasher / Eye of God = killpoints 107, k/d ratio 14,75/1
LeMoose / The Collective = killpoints 991, k/d ratio 40,5/1.
i guess all my kills are log ons then
you are a crap pilot, see, of all my 107, I have never logged on once to trap an enemy, nor have I logged out in a bubble. The fact that you've done both instantly makes you a crap pilot.
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan 7 page long circle jerk. Nice.
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Icarus100
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:31:00 -
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Fight the enemy fair, and he will probably return the favour. Fight him while he's down (or asleep as you are doing it) and he will return the favour, in our case, with our logoff/logonski.
You lost 10 capital ships (new record?) and you need something to blame it on, how about your own incompetence?
Everytime you loose ships you blame it on exploits, lag, and whatnot. I suggest you STOP fighting then, 'cause everyone seems to be creating lag and using exploits to win you!
(Oh, btw, BoB is full of GM's and Devs and ASCN bribe devs with beer)
Move along, silly kids.
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: swordslasher
Originally by: LeMoose ur calling me a crap pilot that cant kill anything?
swordslasher / Eye of God = killpoints 107, k/d ratio 14,75/1
LeMoose / The Collective = killpoints 991, k/d ratio 40,5/1.
i guess all my kills are log ons then
you are a crap pilot, see, of all my 107, I have never logged on once to trap an enemy, nor have I logged out in a bubble. The fact that you've done both instantly makes you a crap pilot.
Believe me, lemoose is a way better pilot then you.
We bring it, you don't, therefor we have to use "questionable" tactics. But if thats what gets us what we want, and gets you whining like you're beeing payed for it, then thats what im going to do.
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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: swordslasher
Originally by: LeMoose ur calling me a crap pilot that cant kill anything?
swordslasher / Eye of God = killpoints 107, k/d ratio 14,75/1
LeMoose / The Collective = killpoints 991, k/d ratio 40,5/1.
i guess all my kills are log ons then
you are a crap pilot, see, of all my 107, I have never logged on once to trap an enemy, nor have I logged out in a bubble. The fact that you've done both instantly makes you a crap pilot.
a proof that u are talking straight out of your ass, i didnt even take part in that battle before, so how could i have taken part in this log on trap? actually my friend called me to tell me to log on and help but i didnt hear him thanks to very loud techno but thats a diffrent matter
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Oreh Anavrin
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:42:00 -
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Whoa whoa wait a second. I mean, I know it's a game and I dont really give a **** about losing imaginary ships and money and whatnot but since when did the majority of the community become in favor of this logon stuff. Whether it's AAA, AXE, ASCN, bob I don't really care but the logon-logoff stuff is definetly ruining the game. If this is now seen as a valid tactic by the rest of eve then my time playing eve is over.
Don't even try to say im whining about losing dreads, it really doesnt bother me, what does bother me is the tolerance of obvious exploits by not only the community, but CCP as well. At least in the past the players would shun the logoff tactics even if CCP didnt.... ________________________________________
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:42:00 -
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AXE - they use Log On Traps. They are proud of it, let it be. No reason to flame and everything else, its a game, they are playing within CCP's rules let it be.
AXE - Where the men work hard and the girls want to play. |
n sx
The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: DeWieKat
Originally by: Red Horseman I don't know what's worse, -A- using a logon trap to kill off AXE's cap fleet, or them bragging about it on the forum like they accomplished something.
It's like winning a game of chess by punching the other guy in the face; it doesn't show prowess or strength, rather cowardice and incompetence.
That said, AXE knows as well as everyone else that AAA uses this tactic. Meanwhile, CCP refuses to do anything about it, so you should have been prepared for it.
My only hope is that this does not become commonplace in alliance conflicts; I'd hate to take part in battles fought at the character selection screen.
again, i.a.c, of course, ure are invited to make an opinion, but still, u, as a passive force in this engagement, u shoulndt be screaming around, telling everybody how good i.a.c. is....
He didn't say anything about IAC, you did.
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APT BANK
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: LeMoose what the hell we were only defending our poses, and did it well. Time and time again we completly roll up your forces in big fleet battles like this, how about stopping blaiming us of using lagsploits, logons, and whatever, and get better at these things?
You may want to read up a few pages to the majority of AAA forum posters admiting to using the login tactic and the reasons for its use before denying it, it only sohws the lie for what it is. Reading this thread all iv seen is aaa denying this tactic, until its use and success in use, now that it has caused devistating loss to axe do the users of this tactic admit to it's use. No point denying it any longer it has been admited to, we can all see the admition and all understand it's relavence.
I mourn for your loss to this tactic AXE, AAA have heen using it for a long time.
AAA personally, if i see you in system I EXPECT a log in trap and wont engage. you want people to engage your fleets then dont use tactics that discourage fair fighting.
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Zrevak Ashek
The Blackwater Brigade
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 29/10/2006 04:50:55
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin Whoa whoa wait a second. I mean, I know it's a game and I dont really give a **** about losing imaginary ships and money and whatnot but since when did the majority of the community become in favor of this logon stuff. Whether it's AAA, AXE, ASCN, bob I don't really care but the logon-logoff stuff is definetly ruining the game. If this is now seen as a valid tactic by the rest of eve then my time playing eve is over.
Don't even try to say im whining about losing dreads, it really doesnt bother me, what does bother me is the tolerance of obvious exploits by not only the community, but CCP as well. At least in the past the players would shun the logoff tactics even if CCP didnt....
It's really only the russian mentality that is at question here. It took some time, but The Collective was finally brainwashed by Evil Thug to think it was ok. I remember a time when they actually frowned upon it. Deep down, mayne they still do.
I dont think the russian players represent the majority of the eve community. But they sure can make some noise
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APT BANK
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Red Horseman I don't know what's worse, -A- using a logon trap to kill off AXE's cap fleet, or them bragging about it on the forum like they accomplished something.
It's like winning a game of chess by punching the other guy in the face; it doesn't show prowess or strength, rather cowardice and incompetence.
That said, AXE knows as well as everyone else that AAA uses this tactic. Meanwhile, CCP refuses to do anything about it, so you should have been prepared for it.
My only hope is that this does not become commonplace in alliance conflicts; I'd hate to take part in battles fought at the character selection screen.
This is soooo true my friend. im going to revert to that tactice for my next chess championship, maybe then i wont get spanked.
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Komolov
Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.29 04:59:00 -
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Wohoo!
I see here new potential member to coalition of whiners. Alarm clocks FTW. --------------------
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Oreh Anavrin
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 29/10/2006 04:56:15
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin Whoa whoa wait a second. I mean, I know it's a game and I dont really give a **** about losing imaginary ships and money and whatnot but since when did the majority of the community become in favor of this logon stuff. Whether it's AAA, AXE, ASCN, bob I don't really care but the logon-logoff stuff is definetly ruining the game. If this is now seen as a valid tactic by the rest of eve then my time playing eve is over.
Don't even try to say im whining about losing dreads, it really doesnt bother me, what does bother me is the tolerance of obvious exploits by not only the community, but CCP as well. At least in the past the players would shun the logoff tactics even if CCP didnt....
It's really only the russian mentality that is at question here. It took some time, but The Collective was finally brainwashed by Evil Thug to think it was ok. I remember a time when they actually frowned upon it. Deep down, mayne they still do.
I dont think the russian players represent the majority of the eve community. But they sure can make some noise ...and yes, the money ure talking about Oreh. It's not so imaginary as u might think. For some, its pretty far from "imaginary"
I see BoB and other neutral corps congradulating them as well, perhaps I should re-read and would see that they are just happy about the victory but they most certainly didnt condem the tactic used to gain it. ________________________________________
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Man1ac
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:00:00 -
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Congrats to all corp and alliance mates for spanking those bigmouths one more time. So jealous that I couldn't join.
AXE: You got to be glad that someone loves you so much, that they wake up 1:00am in the morning just to find you online
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hcufpa
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip AXE - they use Log On Traps. They are proud of it, let it be. No reason to flame and everything else, its a game, they are playing within CCP's rules let it be.
/signed
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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:02:00 -
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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:05:00 -
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comon its not that lame to force u guys to fight us, u are 2x bigger and richer, and what not. u only fight when u outnumber us 3 to 1. staring at pos hardeners waiting for action can be pretty boring u know.
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pardux
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:16:00 -
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rawr ^^ my first vid dread shooting vid
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GO MaZ
No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: LeMoose comon its not that lame to force u guys to fight us, u are 2x bigger and richer, and what not. u only fight when u outnumber us 3 to 1. staring at pos hardeners waiting for action can be pretty boring u know.
I said something yesterday to pardux in irc, basically if you wanted a FIGHT you shouldnt've brought pos warfare into it. Everyone switches to POS warfare mode - when you have hostile posses in system, whats the point of risking your limited resources unless you're defending / attacking a pos?
When your space is under attack, you take much more notice of your resources and how easy (or difficult) it is to replace your ships and they all become much more important.
We've had a couple of massive fights with D2 and the like where posses weren't involved, and we always engaged at even or lesser numbers just for the fight.
Not surprised about the dread kills though, everyone knew it was inevitable, but not quite in those numbers maybe
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: DeWieKat again, i.a.c, of course, ure are invited to make an opinion, but still, u, as a passive force in this engagement, u shoulndt be screaming around, telling everybody how good i.a.c. is....
I don't see any anyone bragging about how good IAC is ?
Impressive damage you inflicted there -A-, but you cheated to do it, so don't expect people to congratulate you on it
Login traps are exploits that CCP is unwilling or unable to do anything about, doesn't make them any less of an exploit in my book.
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Luna Liandri
PPN United
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Posted - 2006.10.29 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zrevak Ashek It's really only the russian mentality that is at question here. It took some time, but The Collective was finally brainwashed by Evil Thug to think it was ok. I remember a time when they actually frowned upon it. Deep down, maybe they still do.
I dont think the russian players represent the majority of the eve community. But they sure can make some noise ...and yes, the money ure talking about Oreh. It's not so imaginary as u might think. For some, its pretty far from "imaginary"
login on ... checking POS, reinforced ... gettin coffee ... waiting ... waiting ... doin some logistics ... waiting ... AXE has more players in sys ... waiting ... POS comes out of reinforcement, maybe they will engage after all ... waiting & boosting... waiting & boosting ... refill POS ... waiting ... waiting ... waiting ... waiting ... falling asleep over the keyboard ... sleeping ... waking up with headache ... going to bed ... waking up ... login on ... checking POS, reinforced ...
for sure there are funnier things in life & EvE then this. for sure a phonecall while sweet dreaming of epic battles is not the best way to wake up - just to get some sort of a fight. for sure no FC would give the advantage of surprise away in such situation.
XZH was the same situation and equal boring. they wouldnt engage us(d2 then) 18 hours the day even with 5:1 - only on POS with the lagmonster or local(d2) < 30. was i happy about roundtripping POSes for anchoring/onlining (and unanchoring a week later) - nope, its boring. but ... this is TZ warfare against an enemy who wont engage. i sincerly hope this will change.
cu there ...
PS: XZH again - we had some rare but fine fights there, without too much lag. and it was easy to give credit & GF in local whoever won.
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