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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:33:06 -
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Plex is far from being a micro transaction and with the introduction ofnso many things in game that players want other than aren't really worth a Plex, I think it would be obvious we need a few cheaper versions of Plex, or even a "points system" (work on AUR system maybe?)
Example people with real money buy the smaller versions of PLEX or points, for cheaper (say -ú5?) and that is worth X amount points that could be traded for isks in the market once applied to the account.
Then the player buying use those points to buy all the goodies like skins etc.
I'll just leave this here like that, raw and uninterestingly written.
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Klaus Tylar
Tylar United Freight
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:36:52 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Plex is far from being a micro transaction and with the introduction ofnso many things in game that players want other than aren't really worth a Plex, I think it would be obvious we need a few cheaper versions of Plex, or even a "points system" (work on AUR system maybe?)
Example people with real money buy the smaller versions of PLEX or points, for cheaper (say -ú5?) and that is worth X amount points that could be traded for isks in the market once applied to the account.
Then the player buying use those points to buy all the goodies like skins etc.
I'll just leave this here like that, raw and uninterestingly written.
*COUGHAURUMCOUGH*
Pretty sure we already have exactly what you are describing in the form of the aurum packages purchasable through your account management page. Small purchases you can buy for $5 or so and convert to things you can sell on the market for ISK. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8283
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:42:09 -
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Pilots Licence EXtension
Use Arum for the micro transactions.
'nuff said.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:43:05 -
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Klaus Tylar wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Plex is far from being a micro transaction and with the introduction ofnso many things in game that players want other than aren't really worth a Plex, I think it would be obvious we need a few cheaper versions of Plex, or even a "points system" (work on AUR system maybe?)
Example people with real money buy the smaller versions of PLEX or points, for cheaper (say -ú5?) and that is worth X amount points that could be traded for isks in the market once applied to the account.
Then the player buying use those points to buy all the goodies like skins etc.
I'll just leave this here like that, raw and uninterestingly written.
*COUGHAURUMCOUGH*Pretty sure we already have exactly what you are describing in the form of the aurum packages purchasable through your account management page. Small purchases you can buy for $5 or so and convert to things you can sell on the market for ISK.
That's actually the whole reason i said aur and I'm making this thread, I want to sell the packages of aur for isks, not the items I bought with the package.
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Klaus Tylar
Tylar United Freight
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:45:30 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Klaus Tylar wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Plex is far from being a micro transaction and with the introduction ofnso many things in game that players want other than aren't really worth a Plex, I think it would be obvious we need a few cheaper versions of Plex, or even a "points system" (work on AUR system maybe?)
Example people with real money buy the smaller versions of PLEX or points, for cheaper (say -ú5?) and that is worth X amount points that could be traded for isks in the market once applied to the account.
Then the player buying use those points to buy all the goodies like skins etc.
I'll just leave this here like that, raw and uninterestingly written.
*COUGHAURUMCOUGH*Pretty sure we already have exactly what you are describing in the form of the aurum packages purchasable through your account management page. Small purchases you can buy for $5 or so and convert to things you can sell on the market for ISK. That's actually the whole reason i said aur and I'm making this thread, I want to sell the packages of aur for isks, not the items I bought with the package. That's a bit pointless. The end result is the same as long as you grab the few aurum-purchasable items that other people actually buy with some consistency.
Also wrong forum for this thread, possibly. Probably should be in the suggestions subforum. |
dark man Skord
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:47:27 -
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I wouldn't mind seeing a mini plex of sorts honestly. I think it would counter the inflation plex has seen over the years for a brief amount of time. If one is to believe that the price of plex has gone up because of the demand for it, then there might be opportunity to capitalize on a mini-plex commodity of some sort.
But then again, the value of something going up doesn't always mean there is more demand for said commodity. The price of things can go up for a multitude of reasons.
At the end of the day, it would depend on the market. I'd find it interesting to watch how it would unfold though. |
2Sonas1Cup
60
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:50:32 -
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Klaus Tylar wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Klaus Tylar wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Plex is far from being a micro transaction and with the introduction ofnso many things in game that players want other than aren't really worth a Plex, I think it would be obvious we need a few cheaper versions of Plex, or even a "points system" (work on AUR system maybe?)
Example people with real money buy the smaller versions of PLEX or points, for cheaper (say -ú5?) and that is worth X amount points that could be traded for isks in the market once applied to the account.
Then the player buying use those points to buy all the goodies like skins etc.
I'll just leave this here like that, raw and uninterestingly written.
*COUGHAURUMCOUGH*Pretty sure we already have exactly what you are describing in the form of the aurum packages purchasable through your account management page. Small purchases you can buy for $5 or so and convert to things you can sell on the market for ISK. That's actually the whole reason i said aur and I'm making this thread, I want to sell the packages of aur for isks, not the items I bought with the package. That's a bit pointless..
Its not point because the person buying the package of aur for isks can spend them in whatever items he damn well want, or even market it again or whatever.
The only thing is it should be something that once applied to the account or pilot he can't be traded again. |
Yalik Ghent
Tylar United Freight
0
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:50:40 -
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dark man Skord wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a mini plex of sorts honestly. I think it would counter the inflation plex has seen over the years for a brief amount of time.
What function would miniPLEX serve to make people want to buy it? Are we talking just a shorter account time added compared to the full PLEX?
I'm just not sure this idea is worth the trouble, honestly... Can't see myself wanting to ever buy something like that. Unless CCP priced it ridiculously cheap, it wouldn't be going for a good price on the in-game market anyhow. |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
176
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:52:25 -
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At some point there were AURcoins available, but CCP stopped that. I don't remember how they were obtained. I think I have 2x100 somewhere.
They can always be traded on the market, but they can not be created anymore.
I forget the exact details ... it's been a while and wasn't that important.
So ... it was actually possible to trade AUR with other players directly, but I forgot the reason they stopped that.
"Please do not file support tickets to ask if your support ticket will be answered soon." - Actual Quote.
"AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!" - Diana Kim
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Klaus Tylar
Tylar United Freight
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:52:49 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Klaus Tylar wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Klaus Tylar wrote:2Sonas1Cup wrote:Plex is far from being a micro transaction and with the introduction ofnso many things in game that players want other than aren't really worth a Plex, I think it would be obvious we need a few cheaper versions of Plex, or even a "points system" (work on AUR system maybe?)
Example people with real money buy the smaller versions of PLEX or points, for cheaper (say -ú5?) and that is worth X amount points that could be traded for isks in the market once applied to the account.
Then the player buying use those points to buy all the goodies like skins etc.
I'll just leave this here like that, raw and uninterestingly written.
*COUGHAURUMCOUGH*Pretty sure we already have exactly what you are describing in the form of the aurum packages purchasable through your account management page. Small purchases you can buy for $5 or so and convert to things you can sell on the market for ISK. That's actually the whole reason i said aur and I'm making this thread, I want to sell the packages of aur for isks, not the items I bought with the package. That's a bit pointless. The end result is the same as long as you grab the few aurum-purchasable items that other people actually buy with some consistency. Also wrong forum for this thread, possibly. Probably should be in the suggestions subforum. Its not point because the person buying the package of aur for isks can spend them in whatever items he damn well want, or even market it again or whatever. The only thing is it should be something that once applied to the account or pilot he can't be traded again.
Thank you for not quoting my full post in your reply. I went ahead and fixed that for you here.
I can really tell that you want a constructive discussion on this topic, and aren't just ignoring everyone whose replies don't fit your own opinion. /sarcasm
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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:54:20 -
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Yalik Ghent wrote:dark man Skord wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a mini plex of sorts honestly. I think it would counter the inflation plex has seen over the years for a brief amount of time. What function would miniPLEX serve to make people want to buy it? Are we talking just a shorter account time added compared to the full PLEX? I'm just not sure this idea is worth the trouble, honestly... Can't see myself wanting to ever buy something like that. Unless CCP priced it ridiculously cheap, it wouldn't be going for a good price on the in-game market anyhow.
Example: Apparel items bought in the NEX store for aur Ship skins bought in the NEX store for aur
Someone buys a -ú5 pack if aur, sells it in the market for isks to you, and you apply it to your pilot in orderr to get aur and spend it in the NEX store. |
Fabrizio Faggetino
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:55:49 -
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Yalik Ghent wrote:dark man Skord wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a mini plex of sorts honestly. I think it would counter the inflation plex has seen over the years for a brief amount of time. What function would miniPLEX serve to make people want to buy it? Are we talking just a shorter account time added compared to the full PLEX? I'm just not sure this idea is worth the trouble, honestly... Can't see myself wanting to ever buy something like that. Unless CCP priced it ridiculously cheap, it wouldn't be going for a good price on the in-game market anyhow.
You could want to buy it as a way to had say, 15 days of multiple character training. It could be useful for those people who need their alt to train a 14 days skill but don't want to pay a full PLEX for it. Other than that though, it's kind of a "meh" idea. |
2Sonas1Cup
60
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Posted - 2015.04.04 14:57:45 -
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Fabrizio Faggetino wrote:Yalik Ghent wrote:dark man Skord wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a mini plex of sorts honestly. I think it would counter the inflation plex has seen over the years for a brief amount of time. What function would miniPLEX serve to make people want to buy it? Are we talking just a shorter account time added compared to the full PLEX? I'm just not sure this idea is worth the trouble, honestly... Can't see myself wanting to ever buy something like that. Unless CCP priced it ridiculously cheap, it wouldn't be going for a good price on the in-game market anyhow. You could want to buy it as a way to add say, 15 days of multiple character training. It could be useful for those people who need their alt to train a 14 days skill but don't want to pay a full PLEX for it. Other than that though, it's kind of a "meh" idea.
Or THIS, so much this.. Great idea BTW. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Positive Failure Black Legion.
1464
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Posted - 2015.04.04 15:49:18 -
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+1 for shorter training certificates. |
Chewytowel Haklar
Project RESET
129
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:01:30 -
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I used to buy the really cheap trial upgrades that came with the Prototype Accelerators. That was a good cheap way to PLEX. Since they changed the upgrade packages though I think the cost went up too much. |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:40:52 -
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This thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
3616
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Posted - 2015.04.04 16:56:07 -
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No. This is a terrible idea and it's equally terrible now as it has been every other time someone has raised the issue - something you could have found out if you had bothered to use the search function.
If you need to buy something that costs less than a PLEX, then buy Aurum.
Instead of cheaper forms of PLEX, I propose more expensive subscription fees ($30 or 2 PLEX/month) for people who cannot use the search function to check for their idea before shiptoasting it onto the forums for us to discuss again. |
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1272
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Posted - 2015.04.04 17:46:41 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote: I want to sell the packages of aur for isks, not the items I bought with the package.
CCP removed this option a few months ago. I could sell you 10x 500 or 15x 1000 AUR tokens. or chech the market in Jita 4-4
feel free to contact me |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
678
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Posted - 2015.04.05 04:00:22 -
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PLEX was never intended to be a micro-transaction. PLEX was created before the concept of micro-transaction was invented. Let us know if another problem should arise. We'll be happy to help you out.
The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.05 04:07:56 -
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For this to make sense:
PLEX $19.95 Adds 30 days, worth roughly 800 million isk. MiniPLEX $10.95 Adds 15 days, worth roughly 400 million isk.
Could be a good idea, CCP ends up making some extra $ from the MiniPlex costing slightly more than 50% of a regular PLEX. |
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
96
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Posted - 2015.04.05 04:24:10 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=403930 |
Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
151
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Posted - 2015.04.05 05:45:18 -
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PLEX used to be worth 400m. Until supply of new players willing to spend real money on this game dried up, that is.
Any further attempts to "expand" this system are futile, because of the above. So absent any expansion of the playerbase, PLEX is going back to 1b ISK and will likely stay there for a very long time.
vOv
( -í° -£-û -í°)
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
96
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Posted - 2015.04.05 06:22:32 -
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What's wrong with 1b price tag for PLEX? |
Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.04.05 07:56:40 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:What's wrong with 1b price tag for PLEX? Well one could argue it's still a little too cheap.
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Fabrizio Faggetino
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2015.04.05 11:54:16 -
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Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:PLEX used to be worth 400m. Until supply of new players willing to spend real money on this game dried up, that is.
Any further attempts to "expand" this system are futile, because of the above. So absent any expansion of the playerbase, PLEX is going back to 1b ISK and will likely stay there for a very long time.
vOv
Maybe selling PLEX 15$ instead of 20$ would help in this matter. I never really understood why a PLEX was worth more than an actual 1 month sub. Oh well I guess CCP has good reasons for that. |
Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
152
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:26:12 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:What's wrong with 1b price tag for PLEX?
Nothing. vOv
It is what it is, and unless we get an Great Expansion this summer, the last person turning the lights off will pay 750bn ISK for his last PLEX.
/back to ship spinning
( -í° -£-û -í°)
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Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
602
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Posted - 2015.04.05 22:43:23 -
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Fabrizio Faggetino wrote:Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:PLEX used to be worth 400m. Until supply of new players willing to spend real money on this game dried up, that is.
Any further attempts to "expand" this system are futile, because of the above. So absent any expansion of the playerbase, PLEX is going back to 1b ISK and will likely stay there for a very long time.
vOv Maybe selling PLEX 15$ instead of 20$ would help in this matter. I never really understood why a PLEX was worth more than an actual 1 month sub. Oh well I guess CCP has good reasons for that.
they do. Well etc has a small markup to cover expenses and such (which I don't mind paying, I get mine 3rd party so it keeps their sites running, usually a good thing). But in my case I know of hosting fees and such. I have paid some money for sites on hosts that love it when you go over the allotted bandwidth use. They are nice about it....for xyz more you get to see the bandwidth pipe get a little wider.
My etc to plex goes straight to game time. I'd direct cc pay it but because in asia the management pages make me use some local scam...err Asian online bill pay site. I etc to plex to gametime to avoid using this service. Basically I don't make eve a second job. My day job pays the sub price fine. If other players want to "work" for less than what a fast food chain burger flipper makes....that's a personal choice really. |
thatonepersone
Son's of Plunder The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.05 23:20:46 -
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You assume they don't enjoy what they are doing to make isk, and if that's the case your the one getting the short end of the deal. |
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