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Zae'dra Xanthe Fist of the Goat	Posted - 2006.10.26 00:06:00 - [121] If Bob sends the fleet to "retake" the Xelas station, I can't see that as anything other than a win for ASCN. Moving that far to retake a system so far from the front-line gives ASCN a short, yet difinitive time to shore up their defenses in Paragon. If I'm getting spanked in one system over and over it makes a lot of sense for me to divert the enemies attention elsewhere to get a little break. I can't believe that no one else sees this for what it is... a diversion. Seems like a smart move by ASCN any way you look at it. If Bob goes to claim that station it proves that it matters to them. If they leave it as it is it's a point ASCN can continue to use as a morale boost. Quite honestly, anyone saying they should be throwing more ships blinfly into Paragon and not trying to split forces isn't thinking strategy
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.26 00:11:00 - [122] Originally by: Assens Letta Edited by: Assens Letta on 25/10/2006 23:50:31 Originally by: Xendie even more signs of total breakdown of decency by Xelas and horde pilots have been displayed. multiple ships loaded with bookmarks are reported to have been downed by the combined strike force in fountain. so far Zorba Leutius from the Huns and Major Stereotypd from Mass Murder Aggregate have been confirmed to that lame. low really low Xelas and HORDE. It is really amazing what some misinformed (or truly lying?) ppl can say what is your case Xendie? are u misinformed or are u just a liar? letÆs analyze what you state. u say that the finest example of things braking down in horde is members being reported using Bm¦s (possibly as an exploit) in their ship. lets say for argument sake that these Bm`s were being transported for someone and not to be used for the purposes that you say, thus not reflecting anything whatsoever. then I look at the F-E kill board (and F-E uses the same database that we do) and see that zorba Leutius has lost 2 harpys and 1 rifter.... in none of the killmails appears a single BM.... how can this happen? are u talking out of experience or is it pure Bull xendie? but wait.... this sort of claim comes from a pilot that has a medium time of corp. permanence of 1-2 months..... I can see that u really like the corps u are in... that or they donÆt like u.... I say that there may be some killmails that werenÆt posted or on our database (if so pls send and well happily update) but bear in mind that some guys like to transport Bm¦s to other players, sometimes those ships die, sometimes the pilot dies too, but claiming that its a sign of total breakdown is totally hilarious who are u and what do u claim to know? I donÆt care if u lived in 100 corps and if u have flown in fountain once or twice. as for Xelas and Horde breaking down... we have seen invasions from the north... we have seen FA... we have seen celes for a long time... all of this as gone by and yet The Huns and CP (and many others) remain in fountain. when all the fuss has cleared we will still be here... and we will still be looking to these remarks and laughing still. Have fun gentleman. Originally by: xendie HORDE sent a rescue fleet that got annihilated. PS: yes... we lost 5 BS¦s and 1BC.... we are doomed now... we are bound to fly t1 frigs for the next 3 months..... get real m8 Transport hundreds of bms in an unfitted vigil? Take a look at our killboard for Zorba Leutius - there's a vigil kill at precisely 2006.10.20 14:12 - there's NOTHING on his vigil at all. No wcs, no mwd, no guns, no cloak. Just hundreds of bms in his cargo. He undocks and just sits there, waiting to be killed, then a tech 2 hauler undocked behind him after he dies, fully expecting the bm lag to prevent our forces from engaging. I'd happily link the mail here but I believe thats a nono. Instead, let me focus your attention on my sig, with the killboard link there. ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
Assens Letta The Huns THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.10.26 00:41:00 - [123] Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth He undocks and just sits there, waiting to be killed, then a tech 2 hauler undocked behind him after he dies, fully expecting the bm lag to prevent our forces from engaging. HavenÆt u fought us already? Do u sincerely believe that the stuff that Xendie is saying is true? Are u also misinformed? Do u take the small pebble for the whole mountain? Can u claim that the Huns or any other HORDE cop. runs away from a fight? We give u guys some credit at being good pvpers, I only think we deserve some credit at fighting honestly and for standing up to the task. Did a t2 hauler got out of station? OMG... how many times did FA and such others chased our haulers? Too many it seems. How many times did pmota got away from u guys? Too many. Did we loose some? Ofc we did, its part of the game, and u guys also lost some yes. Can u claim that it was a generally used tactic for that purpose? get real m8... I know that we are a hard nut to break and that although all u said and no matter how much you guys beat your chest in forums we are still in fountain and still fighting. (ooc=is it possible that RL life circumstances make a player leave his PC and make solve some serious business like family issues, or rather kid issues ? do I need to say more?) Is it possible that the example that Xendie mentioned as a fact that XS and HORDE are in complete disarray is complete bull? I say once again, do not take the pebble for the whole mountain. Can u claim that to be a common practice? DonÆt be silly man.... have fun gents and we will see u in fountain once more... until one of us leaves... and its not going to be us... history says so.
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.26 00:52:00 - [124] Originally by: Assens Letta Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth He undocks and just sits there, waiting to be killed, then a tech 2 hauler undocked behind him after he dies, fully expecting the bm lag to prevent our forces from engaging. HavenÆt u fought us already? Do u sincerely believe that the stuff that Xendie is saying is true? Are u also misinformed? Do u take the small pebble for the whole mountain? Can u claim that the Huns or any other HORDE cop. runs away from a fight? We give u guys some credit at being good pvpers, I only think we deserve some credit at fighting honestly and for standing up to the task. Did a t2 hauler got out of station? OMG... how many times did FA and such others chased our haulers? Too many it seems. How many times did pmota got away from u guys? Too many. Did we loose some? Ofc we did, its part of the game, and u guys also lost some yes. Can u claim that it was a generally used tactic for that purpose? get real m8... I know that we are a hard nut to break and that although all u said and no matter how much you guys beat your chest in forums we are still in fountain and still fighting. (ooc=is it possible that RL life circumstances make a player leave his PC and make solve some serious business like family issues, or rather kid issues ? do I need to say more?) Is it possible that the example that Xendie mentioned as a fact that XS and HORDE are in complete disarray is complete bull? I say once again, do not take the pebble for the whole mountain. Can u claim that to be a common practice? DonÆt be silly man.... have fun gents and we will see u in fountain once more... until one of us leaves... and its not going to be us... history says so. Xendie claimed that it happened and gave 2 specific examples. Those examples are backed up by the kills on our board. Is it common practice with Horde? I don't believe so and I'd HOPE not, but it did happen this time. The point is Horde pilots and Horde alliance by extension have resorted to some lame tactics - exploitative, in fact - in order to escape our attacks. If you believe in your alliance get your pilots to stop pulling stunts like this - it is childish, desparate and exploitative. As far as taking a pebble for a mountain - I've fought Horde for as long as you've been in existence after you left Xelas. Thats several months. I've known Xendie for 3 years now and trust him deeply. I'll take his "pebble" as the mountain, considering it is backed up by proof and my own personal experience. Hard nut to *****? You left Xelas under our pressure. Sit tight in your little sandbox in TU-, we'll turn our attention to you soon enough. ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
McMike Hegemonic Core	Posted - 2006.10.26 02:15:00 - [125] Quote: I guess morale is not so good so its important to get a victory, if your not able to take on bob directly then indirectly is your next best thing. Still the direction is downhill, will be interesting to see what happens next. Says a FIX slave forced to live under the BOB flag. Frankly, I see NO better time for entities like FIX to get their regions back. Here is a chance for the east to finally humble the arrogance that is BOB. People just to find their balls.
Assens Letta The Huns THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.10.26 02:16:00 - [126] Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth I'll take his "pebble" as the mountain, considering it is backed up by proof and my own personal experience. it saddens me to see such good sports resorting to this kind of propaganda... specially a kind of propaganda that (i hope)they know not to be true(if u believe then u have start believing your own lies)... but hey..living and learning Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth You left Xelas under our pressure Do i need to answer this ? HAHAHAHAHA Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth Hard nut to *****? You left Xelas under our pressure. Sit tight in your little sandbox in TU-, we'll turn our attention to you soon enough bring it on m8... its us that brought u the fight so far... seems like a nice change
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.26 02:24:00 - [127] Originally by: Assens Letta Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth I'll take his "pebble" as the mountain, considering it is backed up by proof and my own personal experience. it saddens me to see such good sports resorting to this kind of propaganda... specially a kind of propaganda that (i hope)they know not to be true(if u believe then u have start believing your own lies)... but hey..living and learning Have you bothered looking at the killboard? Try the link. Its not propaganda its proof :/ Originally by: Assens Letta Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth You left Xelas under our pressure Do i need to answer this ? HAHAHAHAHA Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth Hard nut to *****? You left Xelas under our pressure. Sit tight in your little sandbox in TU-, we'll turn our attention to you soon enough bring it on m8... its us that brought u the fight so far... seems like a nice change You and I both know the circumstances of your departure from xelas. ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.26 02:27:00 - [128] The Xelas Super Capital programe just hit a slight snag.... Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.26 03:37:00 - [129] Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Xendie wasnt it your alliance that had a 3-1 loss ratio against Celest/Outbreak up in fountain? I won every single fight I was part of up there. There's an angle for every spin and a spin for every angle. Well you must have been involed in about 1 or 2 then BL coz we gave BNC a kicking in terms of BS and ships destroyed also. Unlucky. One of those was a battle of BNC vs Celes , 8 celes BS got bbqed and BNC lost none so yeah right spin what u like. @ Jazz, are you realy that thick m8 ?? Even ur own leader wont say something that remotely dense lol since they know quite well who BL is. This entire subject is just silly and started by a troll , if alliances would die just for losing one staion then life would have been soo much eaiser tbh xelas may rise or fall dependign on more factors just like any other alliance who still stands or have fallen summarising it to just one incident is just sheer stupidity and epeen jerking. "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.26 03:58:00 - [130] I have one thing to say to ASCN. We have done our 'spinning' for this evening. I hope you enjoyed it as much as we did. We will be back to take PNQ in the same style as you got bent over, lubed up and utterly destroyed in H8- tonight. Spin that if you can.
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.26 04:00:00 - [131] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Xendie wasnt it your alliance that had a 3-1 loss ratio against Celest/Outbreak up in fountain? I won every single fight I was part of up there. There's an angle for every spin and a spin for every angle. Well you must have been involed in about 1 or 2 then BL coz we gave BNC a kicking in terms of BS and ships destroyed also. Unlucky. One of those was a battle of BNC vs Celes , 8 celes BS got bbqed and BNC lost none so yeah right spin what u like. @ Jazz, are you realy that thick m8 ?? Even ur own leader wont say something that remotely dense lol since they know quite well who BL is. This entire subject is just silly and started by a troll , if alliances would die just for losing one staion then life would have been soo much eaiser tbh xelas may rise or fall dependign on more factors just like any other alliance who still stands or have fallen summarising it to just one incident is just sheer stupidity and epeen jerking. When have we ever said we've won every fight we've been in? You said it yourself: Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel One of those was a battle of BNC vs Celes , 8 celes BS got bbqed and BNC lost none so yeah right spin what u like. Xendie said he must've been involved in 1 or 2. You won a few battles against us but JUST a few. Xendie's statement is correct - we easily gained a 3:1 k:d ratio against you during your brief stay in Fountain. We've of course lost battles and we'll continue to fight - sometimes we'll win and sometimes we'll lose. We DID however win more frequently than we lost against bob while you were trying to protect your claim on Fountain. Take a look at your own killboard for that. In particular, take a look at the k:d during that timeframe - perhaps that'll put that voice in your head to rest a bit. ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.26 04:04:00 - [132] Originally by: darth solo You are all mad. why are u all arguing. the whole point of this was to take the outpost. the plan is never to hold onto it forever and have pos spamming wars, NO THANKS its just not somthing we do. we dont even have that many dreads, we have just about 0 pos logistics, we fight, thats pretty much it. its just nice to say we were there. we are just a small corp and know our limits. seems to me ppl on both sides are blinded by hate. Iv always said that fighting BOB on diff fronts is the key to success. d solo. So that's my answer then. Thanks.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.26 04:35:00 - [133] I'm trying to figure out which is more red, my new sig or our killboard... >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
Galavet Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.26 04:42:00 - [134] Originally by: Xendie even more signs of total breakdown of decency by Xelas and horde pilots have been displayed. multiple ships loaded with bookmarks are reported to have been downed by the combined strikeforce in fountain. so far Zorba Leutius from the huns and Major Stereotypd from Mass Murder Aggregate have been confirmed to that lame. low really low Xelas and HORDE. Is this a name and shame? Adelon Cypher of CLS had about 200 bookmarks in his hold when he warped in on our dread killing. http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=113025 Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
FubarSF Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.26 04:49:00 - [135] Originally by: HostageTaker I'm trying to figure out which is more red, my new sig or our killboard... I'd say your killboard... Ouch At least ASCN killed some bs's. I'll wait for the blog
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.26 04:51:00 - [136] Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth You and I both know the circumstances of your departure from xelas. Honestly, I must say your spy has been failing recently, HUNS/C-P/U.DK left for reasons completely un-related to Celes/Toxin or even hostiles. Please, tell me I'm wrong; Humour me.
Emeline Cabernet Amarr KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.26 05:05:00 - [137] yeah im sure acsn will send fleets to help more after tonight.. nice to see rise showing up to help celes/acsn.
Assens Letta The Huns THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.10.26 05:09:00 - [138] Originally by: Proxay Humour me. oh...they will... look at this discussion and u will see that Originally by: Galavet Adelon Cypher of CLS had about 200 bookmarks in his hold when he warped in on our dread killing. well this is something to be expected, Celes comes in the defence of xendie claiming that they have proof of The Horde CiC used a "lame" tatic... and they claim to have proof and insinuate that it was prepositated.... link to that kill and yet... the bm¦s they survive ? looking at BoB killboard it seems so... but on Zorba ship none survived... amazing... what a stroke of luck that was... (OOC-Maybe Adelon Cypher was on the same situation as zorba was, and he needed to get away from his PC right there) Celes and Xendie, do not throw rocks at your neighbours house when u have glass roofs on your own house guys, as it seems all we have is your word that Zorba was using "lame" tatics... and yet a killboard show that u guys also do what u claim zorba has done. the difference is we dont say u guys are lame or that u are in the brink of destruction and utterly disorganized. no... hats off for you guys and for the good sports u are (most of celes at least) Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth You and I both know the circumstances of your departure from xelas. Lets be honest m8... i may know the reasons... u dont... and let me assure u it certainly was not cause of u guys... plz continue to make us laugh... they say it makes u live longer.... keep up the good job... i can thank u if i live to be 110 years old
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2006.10.26 05:10:00 - [139] OMFG. did celest actually need ascn on this one ? im chocked. i thought celestiel apcs had enough in there npc stations.. lmao.. celest ascn slaves ?
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.26 05:25:00 - [140] Originally by: Emeline Cabernet nice to see rise showing up to help celes/acsn. lol, I arent Rise suppose to be busy defending Or from Chon/NORAD or something like that? ------------------ Save Tranquility!
Valkazm Amarr Cursed Spawn	Posted - 2006.10.26 06:02:00 - [141] xelas secret meeting Xelas meeting Cursed Spawn recruitment
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.10.26 06:05:00 - [142] Xelas are actually quite respectful and they'd do great things if they had some leadership. === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Sharcy Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.26 06:50:00 - [143] Originally by: Blacklight We have done our 'spinning' for this evening. Good for you! How much calories did you burn? --
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.26 07:12:00 - [144] Originally by: Assens Letta Originally by: Proxay Humour me. oh...they will... look at this discussion and u will see that Originally by: Galavet Adelon Cypher of CLS had about 200 bookmarks in his hold when he warped in on our dread killing. well this is something to be expected, Celes comes in the defence of xendie claiming that they have proof of The Horde CiC used a "lame" tatic... and they claim to have proof and insinuate that it was prepositated.... link to that kill and yet... the bm¦s they survive ? looking at BoB killboard it seems so... but on Zorba ship none survived... amazing... what a stroke of luck that was... (OOC-Maybe Adelon Cypher was on the same situation as zorba was, and he needed to get away from his PC right there) Celes and Xendie, do not throw rocks at your neighbours house when u have glass roofs on your own house guys, as it seems all we have is your word that Zorba was using "lame" tatics... and yet a killboard show that u guys also do what u claim zorba has done. the difference is we dont say u guys are lame or that u are in the brink of destruction and utterly disorganized. no... hats off for you guys and for the good sports u are (most of celes at least) Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth You and I both know the circumstances of your departure from xelas. Lets be honest m8... i may know the reasons... u dont... and let me assure u it certainly was not cause of u guys... plz continue to make us laugh... they say it makes u live longer.... keep up the good job... i can thank u if i live to be 110 years old A couple of points: 1) CLS != CELES - prove one of our guys pulled something like that and he'd be booted immediately. We've done it before for pulling lame stuff (logging in combat for instance) and we'll do it again. 2) Killmails only show what was destroyed. There were many, many more bms in the can THAT SURVIVED. Should give you an idea of the level to which this particular Horde pilot had sunk. 3) Fact is, you broke off from Xelas. No more need be said - proof is there for all to see. ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
Assens Letta The Huns THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.10.26 07:26:00 - [145] Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth 1) CLS != CELES - prove one of our guys pulled something like that and he'd be booted immediately. We've done it before for pulling lame stuff (logging in combat for instance) and we'll do it again. what does this prove ? or does it just prove that sometimes accidents happen despite what your twisted minds thinks ? Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth 2) Killmails only show what was destroyed. There were many, many more bms in the can THAT SURVIVED. Should give you an idea of the level to which this particular Horde pilot had sunk. deserves no comment from us... by now i can see to whom i am talking to... no point talking to the walls Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth 3) Fact is, you broke off from Xelas. No more need be said - proof is there for all to see. shall we say that if i live to 150 years i can thank u guys ?
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.26 07:33:00 - [146] Originally by: Assens Letta Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth 1) CLS != CELES - prove one of our guys pulled something like that and he'd be booted immediately. We've done it before for pulling lame stuff (logging in combat for instance) and we'll do it again. what does this prove ? or does it just prove that sometimes accidents happen despite what your twisted minds thinks ? CLS != CELES. CLS is Celestial Horizon corp - no relation whatsoever to CELES Celestial Apocalypse. I suppose it proves you can't read, because thats exactly what I posted - you quoted it yourself :/ Originally by: Assens Letta Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth 2) Killmails only show what was destroyed. There were many, many more bms in the can THAT SURVIVED. Should give you an idea of the level to which this particular Horde pilot had sunk. deserves no comment from us... by now i can see to whom i am talking to... no point talking to the walls No point in talking to the walls when the walls are correct. Anyone that has ever seen a killmail knows only destroyed items show on the killmail, and that items that survive do not show on the killmail. Originally by: Assens Letta Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth 3) Fact is, you broke off from Xelas. No more need be said - proof is there for all to see. shall we say that if i live to 150 years i can thank u guys ? You won't. No point. You can however enlighten the broader EvE community by explaining precisely WHY you guys left Xelas :) I already know the answers, but the greater community is probably interested, now that you've tried to shut down discussion of it. ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.26 07:35:00 - [147] Whey did CELES leave the last alliance they were in, Gryn?
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.26 07:37:00 - [148] Originally by: Dianabolic Whey did CELES leave the last alliance they were in, Gryn? Because they wanted to carebear and we wanted to hunt people. When we joined, we were under the impression they wanted to fight as much as we did. Our impression was incorrect, and we dealt with the situation accordingly. Clear enough? ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:04:00 - [149] Originally by: Assens Letta Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth 1) CLS != CELES - prove one of our guys pulled something like that and he'd be booted immediately. We've done it before for pulling lame stuff (logging in combat for instance) and we'll do it again. what does this prove ? or does it just prove that sometimes accidents happen despite what your twisted minds thinks ? Thats to be expected from ASCN tbh. Apperantly ASCN likes to complain about things and then do them their self. (ex - AAA's alledged use of lag bombs, or how awfull bob members are for spamming the forums and "spinning stories" and then make threads like this). For some reason it is ok for ASCN to accuse someone of doing things which they consider horrible and then do the same things using the "well someone else did it first" clause. The only thing that suprising here is that CELES would fly with people using exploits. I am honestly shocked by that. For all the bad things that come to mind when I think of CELES there are a few positives that i did respect. The most important being CELES's clean game play. I'm not just talking about them not using exploits, that is a minimum standard that should be expected by everyone in eve. I've never known CELES to log off in combat, never use tactics which are questionable in terms of game mechanics, dishonor a 1v1, etc... It is a sad day for CELES. It appears they are willing to give up any moral highground they had left just to win a single battle against bob (well sort of bob, mostly xelas). My question to CELES is do you condone the use of boarderline tactics such as lagbombs? Were you aware such methods were going to be used in your op before it happend? If not do you plan to continue to fly with ASCN after they involved you directly in ops where such deplorable "tactics" were used? I'd hate to think CELES would just ignore such abominations. Say it aint so joe. Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Xendie Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:16:00 - [150] dont you all know that you will get a official warning on your account when you are spamming these killmail links? nubbins with lack of forum f00. for the nub horde dude--->just go check for those names on the CELESTIAL APOCALYPSE killboard and then sthu. atleast there the mails isnt edited to remove items destroyed. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?

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