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Zae'dra Xanthe
Fist of the Goat
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:16:00 -
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It's simple to see what ASCN accomplished here. A victory! It may indeed be against a Bob "pet" alliance but it still forces Bob to make the next move. If they move force to Fountain to regain control for Xelas then they're forced to relax the forces they have fighting in the South. It's a smart move on ASCN part.
Lets not forget that they also just removed a source of revenue from Bob. Bob will not benefit from the fees charged to that outpost.
Finally, it's all about morale. ASCN will be able to ride this victory and rally troops to the cause. Everyone needs to have a bright spot in their road to success. This is a step in the right direction. IMO
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:16:00 -
[92]
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: Traxio Nacho So let me get this straight you weren't able to POS spam Tpar enough so you had to get help from celest to take a Xelas outpost?
To be honest BOB's KB says alot you might want to have alook at it, how look another carrier down
Getting help from somebody else, you mean kinda like a mercenary coaltion?
And tbh, I would glady trade a 1.5 bil carrier for a 30 bil outpost anyday.
Ummmm, last I looked we weren't shooting you
But when they take the OP back you still lost a carrier
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr KTHNXDIE
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:18:00 -
[93]
Whether or not it makes a difference in the long run is debatable.
The fact that ASCN (with help ofc) have taken the fight into a BoB region, however, should be applauded.
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Marko Debreault
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Muadeeb Ousil I find the lack of BoB replies...
Disturbing...
Me too. It's making me nervous. If they're not posting on the forums they must be playing! Its too good to be true. Incoming tiresome argumentative posts is my prediction.
Here's my armchair general'ing, courtesy of no imminent project deadlines at work:
A new theater is being opened in this conflict. I wonder if ASCN is organized enough to be able to actually conduct meaningful wars in multiple areas. If I were in ASCN I'd probably do something similar to what theyre doing now:
- Start a battle on multiple fronts, with seperate command and logistical structures for each front. This capitalizes on ASCN's numbers and minimizes the amount of node crashing. If ASCN is being a nuisance in TCAG and in Fountain at the same time by the time one issue is resolved the other issue will be . . . entrenched.
- Start allying with more competent militaries who dislike BoB, just like theyre doing with CELES.
- Hire some decent small scale griefers to move into Delve. The traditional BoB response to these corps is to WTF blob them, which is effective - but with multiple fronts opening up, the blob may be diminished enough for those small corps to be disruptive. Shin Ra, where art thou?
- Or, alternatively, start talks with a group like Outbreak, pay us an ungodly amount, and watch the pandemonium when we move into Delve.
But what if .AAA. take advantage of ASCN's weakness and start hammering away at their infrastructure while ASCN is trying to distract BoB with multiple fronts? Suddenly a new front could be opened against ASCN, and that would be all it takes to unravel an ASCN multi-front campaign against BoB.
Now, AAA hate BoB about as much as they hate ASCN. AAA are currently going to terrorize good old AXE, which does indeed sound like a grand time, but certainly not optimal for ASCN. If I were CYVOK I might try to get AAA to move on BoB. There is no way AAA would set ASCN to +ve, but they could be persuaded to base out of Aridia, maybe. Being friendly in a convo might do the trick. Who knows?
What about LV? Shouldnt they be sending a fleet or two somewhere? I mean, just watching ASCN get kicked around when BoB is so over extended seems kind of dumb to me. BoB is a threat to LV - why arent they harassing them more proactively? Or are they tied up with the Goonies/RA? I profess ignorance about the day to day strategic reality of LV's situation.
From my vantage point way up here in the North this conflict looks pretty delicious. If Outbreak moved into Delve while CELES and ASCN are kicking XELAS/Horde around in Fountain, and ASCN is doing whatever ASCN does wherever they do what they do . . .
. . . nah. The North is too fat and greasy to pass by. Outbreak isn't on a diet.
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Jiara Castoumi
Caldari Contract Accountancy Service
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:18:00 -
[95]
Originally by: XoPhyte Corrected it for you
No i think you just changed some words around, so infact you changed it for me. Correcting would involve grammar and spelling errors being changed.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: 3FiFTy7 lol this is my main, look me up in game. I'm in a corp, not sure why it doesnt show it. Why have a post removed you cant answer
because you have to have your corp affiliation/alliance affiliation displayed under your avatar on the left in this section of the forum. thats why it have to be removed or you set your settings to display it now.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Mastik
Amarr Earth One
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:19:00 -
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Quote: Im actually standing up for bob, but cyvok lol u lame lieing propaganda machine. There were no bob fighting there because it was an xelas outpost
So.... let me get this straight. ASCN came to support a friendly alliance (Celes), while BoB watched (from a long distance) one of thier friendly alliances loose a chunk of space?
Classic
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Marfew Jae
AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:21:00 -
[98]
Let sleeping dogs lie!
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Heraios
Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:21:00 -
[99]
Forget taking the station and all that nonsense.
*I'M* impressed that they managed to shut BoB up for two minutes.
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CYVOK
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:21:00 -
[100]
For the record,
17 ASCN Capital Ships & 3 Celes Capital Ships. Celes poked the hole, ASCN dropped the hammer.
Celestial Apoc were very orgainzed and it was awesome flying with them again after so many years on oppsite sides of the political fence.
-CYVOK-
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:21:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Therem Harth
Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
no you dude, i just hate John Mccreedy.
Hate is a rather strong word considering this is a video game
John Mccreedy is a character in a videogame, too
So you guys i dont f******G understand you. From one side you speak of F*****G honor in a vedio game. than another you use the (its only a vediogame) as a defence. Get you s**T straight.
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XoPhyte
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:21:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: Traxio Nacho So let me get this straight you weren't able to POS spam Tpar enough so you had to get help from celest to take a Xelas outpost?
To be honest BOB's KB says alot you might want to have alook at it, how look another carrier down
Getting help from somebody else, you mean kinda like a mercenary coaltion?
And tbh, I would glady trade a 1.5 bil carrier for a 30 bil outpost anyday.
Ummmm, last I looked we weren't shooting you
But when they take the OP back you still lost a carrier
Perhaps you don't understand the nature of my post. Talking badly about someone accepting help from someone else kinda disrupts the founding principles behind your entire alliance doesn't it? Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.
I did not infer that you shot at us, but rather that your comment seems to undermine your alliances entire existance.
Hope thats a simple enough explanation.
And IF bob takes the outpost back, then it seems that they would have to leave other areas undefended doesn't it?
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SamuraiJack
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:23:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Crucifier
Celes are ******* cool and one of the best pvpers in game, ascn are on the other hand lame ass exploiting nubs.
This coming from a AAA player? :rofl:
SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
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Caldess
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:23:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Marko Debreault
- Or, alternatively, start talks with a group like Outbreak, pay us an ungodly amount, and watch the pandemonium when we move into Delve.
Originally by: Marko Debreault . . . nah. The North is too fat and greasy to pass by. Outbreak isn't on a diet.
Yeah, we love our snackie cakes in the north --------------
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari Black Omega Security The OSS
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:23:00 -
[105]
If they don't post in it, it doesn't exist!
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:24:00 -
[106]
OMG ASCN VICTOR!!! Go Hobbits, n' stuff!!! \o/
*goes back to watching Battlestar Galactica*
Nice banner, BTW. -
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |
Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK For the record,
17 ASCN Capital Ships & 3 Celes Capital Ships. Celes poked the hole, ASCN dropped the hammer.
Tyvm Cyvok, that is a sizeable capital fleet, demonstrating good logistical capabilities, specially over such large distances.
I'll reinstate my earlier comment :
"Congratz ASCN, hats off to you for doing some lateral thinking and not trying to bunch your forces up at one location.
This war suddenly got a whole less one-sided.
If you can fight on multiple fronts succesfully, BoB may find itself on the back foot for possibly the first time."
Like I said, congratz.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:25:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Therem Harth
Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
no you dude, i just hate John Mccreedy.
Hate is a rather strong word considering this is a video game
John Mccreedy is a character in a videogame, too
So you guys i dont f******G understand you. From one side you speak of F*****G honor in a vedio game. than another you use the (its only a vediogame) as a defence. Get you s**T straight.
do you want me to send you a pink latex dress?
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Imode
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:26:00 -
[109]
lol, <3 Marko :) ____________________________ Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes |
Sir Erighan
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:30:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: CYVOK For the record,
17 ASCN Capital Ships & 3 Celes Capital Ships. Celes poked the hole, ASCN dropped the hammer.
Tyvm Cyvok, that is a sizeable capital fleet, demonstrating good logistical capabilities, specially over such large distances.
I'll reinstate my earlier comment :
"Congratz ASCN, hats off to you for doing some lateral thinking and not trying to bunch your forces up at one location.
This war suddenly got a whole less one-sided.
If you can fight on multiple fronts succesfully, BoB may find itself on the back foot for possibly the first time."
Like I said, congratz.
Thanks Naz. Basically, ASCN and CELES saw on opening in Fountain and took advantage of it.
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:31:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Therem Harth
Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
no you dude, i just hate John Mccreedy.
Hate is a rather strong word considering this is a video game
John Mccreedy is a character in a videogame, too
So you guys i dont f******G understand you. From one side you speak of F*****G honor in a vedio game. than another you use the (its only a vediogame) as a defence. Get you s**T straight.
Heh you're rather wound up about this huh?
In rust we trust!!!
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:32:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Drakma
How about: "More than 10, less than 100"
Does that work for you?
edit: fixed typo
Read up you muppet.. your leader already answered the question... my those hobbit feet do see a lot of tonsils don't they.
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Stavros
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:32:00 -
[113]
This thread confuses me (only slightly sexually) --
"DANCE DANCE" |
Culmen
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:32:00 -
[114]
ASCN FORWARD TO VICTORY
oh BTW
/me puts up ASCN soverignty in this thread _____________________________________________________
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Xeoz
The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:33:00 -
[115]
Today was a good day.
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Zrevak Ashek
The Blackwater Brigade
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:34:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Seleene OMG ASCN VICTOR!!! Go Hobbits, n' stuff!!! \o/
*goes back to watching Battlestar Galactica*
Nice banner, BTW.
Hobbits vs bobbits..gotta love it
*omgwtfspacebattles in latest BG episode, BTW*
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Steve Dave
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:35:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Leo McGarry Don't spin that.
Spin This:
meatspin.com
seriously, SERIOUSLY uncool.
people read these forums in work, and linking (even indirectly like this) to sites such as meatspin could get someone into a lot of trouble.
I'd like to see the mods hand out some punitive action for this kind of thing --
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Yucali
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:35:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Nez Perces Tyvm Cyvok, that is a sizeable capital fleet, demonstrating good logistical capabilities, specially over such large distances.
I'll reinstate my earlier comment :
"Congratz ASCN, hats off to you for doing some lateral thinking and not trying to bunch your forces up at one location.
This war suddenly got a whole less one-sided.
If you can fight on multiple fronts succesfully, BoB may find itself on the back foot for possibly the first time."
Like I said, congratz.
phew, I'm sure we'll all sleep easier knowing what you think about this situation
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Celero Incendium
Fist of the Goat
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:36:00 -
[119]
Congratulations to you ASCN. Not only have you managed to divert this BoB initiated war back into BoB claimed space, you've also successfully shutup the BoB Forum warrior squad, at least for a few minutes. People can claim "K/D RATIO" and "OMG BOB KILLBOARD" all they want, the true measure of victory of this war is that it has been primarily fought on your terms, not on BoB's. And in the end, you've just shown them that even if they do commit all of their forces to battle in one region, you have enough forces to fight on multiple fronts.
Kudos to you. This may seem like only a small victory in the grand scheme of things, but it's a huge victory for you in terms of morale.
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Braitus
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:36:00 -
[120]
"Therefore, a wise general will strive to feed off the enemy. One bushel of the enemy's provisions is worth twenty of our own, one picul of fodder is worth twenty of our own." Congratulations guys ASCN/CELES/DW it feels good to have a strong victory to be proud about.\o/
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