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Trytonx
Syncore Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:08:00 -
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This threads average IQ is unusually high for a bob related post... Nevermind I just skimmed over the replies, did we offline the propaganda machine as well?
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:12:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Raid
Either way the very fact that you took and outpost from them is more bruising to their massive pride and ego than 100 capital ship losses.
If by them you mean Xelas then youre right.
All the cheering and back padding aside let us not forget that this war is between BoB and Ascn. Bob taking an Axe station or an LV station would be similar to the case at hand. Yet it would not be seen as a victory, would it ?
Celes (as much as i personally dislike them) did an impressive job holding down Horde and Xelas forces in Fountain for a month. This was the first time they brought their capitals. Ascn jumped on the bandwagon here and tried/tries to score a backdoor victory but this was never a "vs bob" thing. Otherwise if they were so brave and prepared, why didnt they take a real bob outpost ? since there are plenty spread out in fountain ?
This situation shows one thing, Xelas messed up and lost control. We will see how or if this situation turns when a) Xelas and Horde try to recapture the station b) Bob diverts forces to close this backdoor c) another solution is found via mercs or or or.
Nice attempt to spin the victory over someone else into a victory over bob, cyvok you must be very desperate if that is your only success compared to the whooping you get in GQ atm.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:12:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Therem Harth
Originally by: Murukan
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
no you dude, i just hate John Mccreedy.
Hate is a rather strong word considering this is a video game
John Mccreedy is a character in a videogame, too
So you guys i dont f******G understand you. From one side you speak of F*****G honor in a vedio game. than another you use the (its only a vediogame) as a defence. Get you s**T straight.
do you want me to send you a pink latex dress?
i dont want you mum's stuff.
its not my mom's, DBP sent it back as his rear end was way to big for it.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Gyrn Fzirth
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:14:00 -
[154]
Edited by: Gyrn Fzirth on 25/10/2006 19:15:29
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Originally by: MacDuncan Well done TOXIN...and do not ally on a long term w. ASCN...their lead is still what they were app. 12 months back...potential backstabbers at the same targets of opportunity!
I am taking your advice and withdrawing all TOXIN forces from Fountain immediately.
Don't bow to the pressure Marko! Stand firm! ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
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Dragutinovic
Caldari Storm Thesis
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:17:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Raid
Nice attempt to spin the victory over someone else into a victory over bob, cyvok you must be very desperate if that is your only success compared to the whooping you get in GQ atm.
He didnt , it said clearly : BOB Meatshield 0 - ASCN 1
Look at yer own threads when you beat something hmm .
Besides they have delt with an opposing force related to BOB . No wthey have a foothold maybe , a morale booster .. all helps in war ..Once again you should read teh GNW posts and other BOB posts when they "archieve" something . _____________
Im back !
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:21:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Dragutinovic
He didnt , it said clearly : BOB Meatshield 0 - ASCN 1
Originally by: CYVOK At approximately 16:00 EvE time yesterday ASCN & Celes Forces engaged Xelas, BoB & Horde Forces in Fountain.
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BoB Meat Shield 0, ASCN 1.
BoB has lost their first station to the forces of ASCN & her allies.
-CYVOK-
nothing else needs to be said tbh
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BoinKlasik
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:22:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Raid
Either way the very fact that you took and outpost from them is more bruising to their massive pride and ego than 100 capital ship losses.
If by them you mean Xelas then youre right.
All the cheering and back padding aside let us not forget that this war is between BoB and Ascn. Bob taking an Axe station or an LV station would be similar to the case at hand. Yet it would not be seen as a victory, would it ?
Celes (as much as i personally dislike them) did an impressive job holding down Horde and Xelas forces in Fountain for a month. This was the first time they brought their capitals. Ascn jumped on the bandwagon here and tried/tries to score a backdoor victory but this was never a "vs bob" thing. Otherwise if they were so brave and prepared, why didnt they take a real bob outpost ? since there are plenty spread out in fountain ?
This situation shows one thing, Xelas messed up and lost control. We will see how or if this situation turns when a) Xelas and Horde try to recapture the station b) Bob diverts forces to close this backdoor c) another solution is found via mercs or or or.
Nice attempt to spin the victory over someone else into a victory over bob, cyvok you must be very desperate if that is your only success compared to the whooping you get in GQ atm.
http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg
Fountain isnt controlled by Xelas but under the fact that BoB allow them to.
however, AXE controls their own territory "officially" since the map thread has become of such great importance. Hence why the thread exists no doubt.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Dragutinovic
Caldari Storm Thesis
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Dragutinovic
He didnt , it said clearly : BOB Meatshield 0 - ASCN 1
Originally by: CYVOK At approximately 16:00 EvE time yesterday ASCN & Celes Forces engaged Xelas, BoB & Horde Forces in Fountain.
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BoB Meat Shield 0, ASCN 1.
BoB has lost their first station to the forces of ASCN & her allies.
-CYVOK-
nothing else needs to be said tbh
BoB/allies .. might be a typo eh
Ah well witnissing you guys for so long , i should knwo teh discussing is useless as discussing with a pig . _____________
Im back !
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Califax Oman
Mining Bytes Inc. Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:27:00 -
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Ok so I am prolly gonna get yelled at about this post but meh.
Good Job ASCN and Celes, you took an outpost, not an easy feat even under perfect conditions.
I would like to point out that NO BOB LIVE IN PNQ! That was a Xelas station, Horde can't even dock there. We built the damn thing 100% on our own and for the last fracking time Xelas doesn't PAY Bob anything.
I really don't understand why people think that if your friends with Bob that means your paying them uber isk/ships/sexual favors. Xelas have never been slaves to Bob, Bob has been nothing but cool with us. That may change now that Xelas has lost an outpost but thats for Bob to decide.
So congrats you have taken a Xelas outpost in Bob space. *raises beer* A victory is a victory. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
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Gyrn Fzirth
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Raid
Either way the very fact that you took and outpost from them is more bruising to their massive pride and ego than 100 capital ship losses.
If by them you mean Xelas then youre right.
All the cheering and back padding aside let us not forget that this war is between BoB and Ascn. Bob taking an Axe station or an LV station would be similar to the case at hand. Yet it would not be seen as a victory, would it ?
Celes (as much as i personally dislike them) did an impressive job holding down Horde and Xelas forces in Fountain for a month. This was the first time they brought their capitals. Ascn jumped on the bandwagon here and tried/tries to score a backdoor victory but this was never a "vs bob" thing. Otherwise if they were so brave and prepared, why didnt they take a real bob outpost ? since there are plenty spread out in fountain ?
This situation shows one thing, Xelas messed up and lost control. We will see how or if this situation turns when a) Xelas and Horde try to recapture the station b) Bob diverts forces to close this backdoor c) another solution is found via mercs or or or.
Nice attempt to spin the victory over someone else into a victory over bob, cyvok you must be very desperate if that is your only success compared to the whooping you get in GQ atm.
Xelas had erected a pos with bob support in bob claimed space. Xelas support bob in numerous ways in return for being allowed to exist in Fountain, a bob claimed region. Removing this source of isk, ships and modules is a direct attack on bob *insert obligatory Sun Tzu quote*.
We've been living and thriving in fountain for 10 months now. Xelas was pressured and some split off to form Horde alliance, which is also based in fountain. We've used our capitals numerous times to take down pos or other capitals. We've lost some too, so check your sources.
Respects to ASCN for seeing this opportunity to slice off some of bob's income - you swing a BIG fscking hammer :) ========== CELES Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
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MinThreat
Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Celero Incendium Congratulations to you ASCN. Not only have you managed to divert this BoB initiated war back into BoB claimed space, you've also successfully shutup the BoB Forum warrior squad, at least for a few minutes. People can claim "K/D RATIO" and "OMG BOB KILLBOARD" all they want, the true measure of victory of this war is that it has been primarily fought on your terms, not on BoB's. And in the end, you've just shown them that even if they do commit all of their forces to battle in one region, you have enough forces to fight on multiple fronts.
Kudos to you. This may seem like only a small victory in the grand scheme of things, but it's a huge victory for you in terms of morale.
<3 When am I going to get to fight you guys again? Placid rocked!!
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FubarSF
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Raid
Either way the very fact that you took and outpost from them is more bruising to their massive pride and ego than 100 capital ship losses.
If by them you mean Xelas then youre right.
All the cheering and back padding aside let us not forget that this war is between BoB and Ascn. Bob taking an Axe station or an LV station would be similar to the case at hand. Yet it would not be seen as a victory, would it ?
Celes (as much as i personally dislike them) did an impressive job holding down Horde and Xelas forces in Fountain for a month. This was the first time they brought their capitals. Ascn jumped on the bandwagon here and tried/tries to score a backdoor victory but this was never a "vs bob" thing. Otherwise if they were so brave and prepared, why didnt they take a real bob outpost ? since there are plenty spread out in fountain ?
This situation shows one thing, Xelas messed up and lost control. We will see how or if this situation turns when a) Xelas and Horde try to recapture the station b) Bob diverts forces to close this backdoor c) another solution is found via mercs or or or.
Nice attempt to spin the victory over someone else into a victory over bob, cyvok you must be very desperate if that is your only success compared to the whooping you get in GQ atm.
True But Xelas is BoB's meatshield in Fountain. Sort of the waterboy of BoB (gatorade > h2o) Would not be the first time BoB has had to "rescue" them. You should know that.
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Celero Incendium
Fist of the Goat
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:31:00 -
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ASCN and Celes have taken an outpost in a BoB claimed region from an alliance that is allied with BoB. It's interesting to see that BoB is now going to spin this as "You didn't beat BoB, you beat Xelas." So much for solidarity and unity amongst allies, eh?
Did BoB really think that they were not going to be fighting all of the ASCN allies in this war? BoB may abandon their allies in time of war, but apparently ASCN does not. Very interesting indeed.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:31:00 -
[164]
Xelas like MC, ISS and some other factions in eve are a special form of entity within eve.
By gamemechanics they are forced to "claim" space to use it while they publically state they only "rent" space from a stronger power.
They coexist in the same space which is under the rule of one alliance. Naturally this doesnt make them members of this alliance. Similar to i.e. Goons in RA space, Free star or space alliance (?) in 5 days or the various forces residing in d2/g space.
Im not disputing that taking a station from them is not an achievement as by all means they can fight for themself and are supposed to defend what is theirs. But by no means they should be counted as "part of BoB" since obviously if they were supposed to be part of BoB they would be invited into the alliance and not coexist with their own structures, command and rules. If you damage a ship or damage a station or kill their pos you do no damage to the "hosting" alliance apart from the possibility that those forces might leave fedup. A direct sting towards bobs wallets or forces isnt delivered this way.
As i said the most interesting thing to see will be the reaction to this. I forsee the station not keeping Ascn colors for long.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
At approximately 16:00 EvE time yesterday ASCN & Celes Forces engaged Xelas, BoB & Horde Forces in Fountain. After nearly 8 hours of intense fighting and an extended siege all enemy Towers were placed in Reinforced mode.
-CYVOK-
hmm....havent read this thread at all tbh, only this starting post. I have read a bit of that other one "Is this XELAS end"..or something.
From what i read I didnt get feeling that any situation could have been described as fight. Much lesser there was some BoB pilots involved. And looking about yesterday kilboard statistic...it seemed as boring day.
But...oh well...If that make CYVOK think he has at least big as others do....who am I to discourage him.
CYVOK....the next newton
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Leverton
Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:35:00 -
[166]
I think the MOST important thing is that lots of people had fun, which is really the reason we're all here, isn't it? -- The universe is governed by the aggressive use of force. Hows this for a little note! Oh, and YARRRRR!! - Petwraith I prefer the term RAWR - Xorus |
Tadamitsu
Solar Storm Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:35:00 -
[167]
yarrr or some such drival Solar Storm CEO Want to join the storm?
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XoPhyte
Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:43:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Randay pathetic. so you stole a station from xelas because DEVs are too lazy to fix or clarify sovereignty warfare. big deal. though i am quite ****ed at the fact that you probably won't get utterly f'ing screwed in the arse by GMs like we did since you are a big alliance and we are just a small corp. im so glad we dont play that game.
Can you elaborate on this? IE, give the specific examples of what you are talking about?
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:51:00 -
[169]
Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: Randay pathetic. so you stole a station from xelas because DEVs are too lazy to fix or clarify sovereignty warfare. big deal. though i am quite ****ed at the fact that you probably won't get utterly f'ing screwed in the arse by GMs like we did since you are a big alliance and we are just a small corp. im so glad we dont play that game.
Can you elaborate on this? IE, give the specific examples of what you are talking about?
Outbreak got screwed by a GM in outer ring on that station.
to Randay... the GM's came and said that no station taking could be done as long as the other Xelas POS's was up.
POS's was knocked out of comission and problem solved.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Drasked
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:52:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Raid
Either way the very fact that you took and outpost from them is more bruising to their massive pride and ego than 100 capital ship losses.
If by them you mean Xelas then youre right.
All the cheering and back padding aside let us not forget that this war is between BoB and Ascn. Bob taking an Axe station or an LV station would be similar to the case at hand. Yet it would not be seen as a victory, would it ?
Celes (as much as i personally dislike them) did an impressive job holding down Horde and Xelas forces in Fountain for a month. This was the first time they brought their capitals. Ascn jumped on the bandwagon here and tried/tries to score a backdoor victory but this was never a "vs bob" thing. Otherwise if they were so brave and prepared, why didnt they take a real bob outpost ? since there are plenty spread out in fountain ?
This situation shows one thing, Xelas messed up and lost control. We will see how or if this situation turns when a) Xelas and Horde try to recapture the station b) Bob diverts forces to close this backdoor c) another solution is found via mercs or or or.
Nice attempt to spin the victory over someone else into a victory over bob, cyvok you must be very desperate if that is your only success compared to the whooping you get in GQ atm.
didn't you guys merge into bob?? wait a minute..... FIRST BOB POST!!!12
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Randay pathetic. so you stole a station from xelas because DEVs are too lazy to fix or clarify sovereignty warfare. big deal. though i am quite ****ed at the fact that you probably won't get utterly f'ing screwed in the arse by GMs like we did since you are a big alliance and we are just a small corp. im so glad we dont play that game.
Umm.. dude. Read up. They did it right this time. They took out the POSes and Established their own for Sov THEN claimed the station. No bugs were involved. Why do you sound so bitter about it?
Most of your Corp mates have been congratulating Celes and ASCN on taking the thing.
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Drake Mezcal
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:53:00 -
[172]
How did i know the first person to break BoBs respectful silence would be a DICE member.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:55:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Kcel Chim on 25/10/2006 19:56:07
Originally by: XoPhyte
Where does "the five" live exactly?
youre new to eve, arent you ?
Im not a dice member and neither did i merge into bob as my corp / alliancelogo clearly shows, for the rest of you who talk before thinking.
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Tomic
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Randay pathetic. so you stole a station from xelas because DEVs are too lazy to fix or clarify sovereignty warfare. big deal. though i am quite ****ed at the fact that you probably won't get utterly f'ing screwed in the arse by GMs like we did since you are a big alliance and we are just a small corp. im so glad we dont play that game.
Or maybe we wont because we actually fought their POSs?
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NightWolfe
Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:58:00 -
[175]
ASCN and Celes, Gratz!
/me waves to all his old ASCN Buddies
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NAFnist
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: dabster Man the lack of Bob in this thread if fecking uber, imagine all those angry little kiddies that arent allowed to post.
aahaahhaahaha
ahahaha dabster ftw
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:00:00 -
[177]
go ASCN
more miners and npcers to rule the world
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NAFnist
Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:01:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 25/10/2006 19:56:07
Originally by: XoPhyte
Where does "the five" live exactly?
youre new to eve, arent you ?
Im not a dice member and neither did i merge into bob as my corp / alliancelogo clearly shows, for the rest of you who talk before thinking.
yea lol, are ppl blind or something lol
this is a most funny thread
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Slowboat
Interspace Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Slowboat on 25/10/2006 20:02:00
Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 25/10/2006 19:56:07
Originally by: XoPhyte
Where does "the five" live exactly?
youre new to eve, arent you ?
Im not a dice member and neither did i merge into bob as my corp / alliancelogo clearly shows, for the rest of you who talk before thinking.
No.. of course your right.. after all nobody here knows 5 are nothing now but BOB Alts...
Oh wait! I believe it was even mentioned during the last Alliance Tourney. How silly of me!
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Drasked
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:03:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 25/10/2006 19:56:07
Originally by: XoPhyte
Where does "the five" live exactly?
youre new to eve, arent you ?
Im not a dice member and neither did i merge into bob as my corp / alliancelogo clearly shows, for the rest of you who talk before thinking.
I sense someone being told off on teamspeak.
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