Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.10.26 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: murder one I just got booted from the test server, but before I did I had a chance to use the Myr in a number of configs against every type of other BC. Boy was I impressed!!!
Impressed with the Drake, impressed with the Hurricane, impressed with the Harbinger... but the Myrmidon f#cking sucks.
Setups I tested and what happened with each:
All nos highs (4 med, 4 small), "standard mids" (ab/web/scram/med injector, turret disruptor or cap recharger, another scram, w/e in 5th mid), 2x med t2 rep, 2x t2 eanm, internal force field DC. 4x Ogres in the drone bay.
What happened: all my drones were popped within the first minute of the fight, even with me trying to pull them in before they popped. Every opponent simply webbed a drone, killed it and moved to the next one. It's almost as if they *KNEW* I didn't have any in reserve! Oh wait, the Myrmidon only has 100m3 drone bay. Of course they knew. End result: dead Myrmidon. Vs every type of other BC. Every BC can simply do more DPS than a dual rep Myrmidon tank w/ BC4 can handle. I even had half my cap charges left over when I popped. It was that bad.
5x T2 Med electron setup. 3x small nos, std. mids (mwd this time) dual rep tank, 4x ogres the first few times, and 10x hammerhead2s the second bunch of tests.
What happened: died every time. First the Ogres were killed right away, then I didn't have enough DPS to break anyone's tank. This was repeated vs every type of ship, except for the Drake, who's tank was so f#cking huge that the pilot didn't even care about my drones. Then I tried it with 5x mediums. The DPS was so **** poor w/ 5 mediums and no damage bonus to the guns that they didn't bother killing my drones. I still died.
5x Ions, 3x small nos, std mids w/ mwd, 1 medium rep, 2x eanm t2, dc, mag stab 2, 4x ogres.
What happened: Still got raped. They just killed my Ogres. Then I still didn't have enough DPS with 5 Ion IIs (medium) to break their tanks before I was dead. Still had cap charges left when I popped. The tank simply isn't there. It's like it needs a rep bonus or something. OH RIGHT, it already has one. Silly me.
Ions, no nos, ab and standard mids, small rep, 1600 tungsten plate, 2x eanm t2 and best named DC w/ 4x Ogres and then 10x hammerhead t2.
What happened: This thing goes 170m/sec WITH THE AFTERBURNER ON. Lol? Even when I webbed people, they just webbed me back and scooted out of range of my blasters. They killed my drones. I died eventually. Rep bonus on the small rep was funny to watch as I slowly died with the plate. 170m/sec w/ AB? what a joke.
1600 plate setup as above but with t2 rails (medium).
What happened: they orbited me at 12-13km with their ABs on and I didn't have enough tracking (no tracking bonus to hybrids you see) to hit them. They killed my drones. I died.
Drone rigs arn't going to fix what is wrong with the Myr. Even with THREE +10% drone hitpoint rigs installed it won't help. Combat is just too long. Ships have too much HP built in as a buffer while they take out your drones, even without fitting plates. It's so easy to focus on drones now that their HP relative to your own ship's HP are diminished.
The Myrmidon doesn't do enough DPS, even with hybrid damage rigs installed (there arn't any drone damage rigs for regular drones, only for sentry drones, which are worthless for pvp) the Myrmidon doesn't do enough DPS to kill something before it's drones are popped.
The best way to balance the Myrmidon at this point is to do this: skill up Caldari Cruiser and buy a f#cking Drake. Who woulda thought that Caldari would come out on top? I don't think that's ever happened before.
prolly not smart either to go up against multiple opponents in a myrmidon
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