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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 02:08:00 -
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I have invested a great deal of time to fly command ships (caldari)... now the drake looks like a command ship and the nighthawk looks like a sissy... I dont see any RoF bonus for the nighthawk in todays singularity build. not in the description anyways. so maybe it's in the ship but as long as we hear no official word, I assume the worst. amd both have (as of now) 400 calibration, but the drake has 3(!) and the nighthawk only 2(!) rig slots. I havent run test setups, but the nighthawk doesnt feel like a tech 2 ship anymore (it never really did). I need 7(!!!) skills at LEVEL 5. SEVEN. and for the Drake, I need ZERO! why train half a year to get something which is not or hardly better than standard equipment? and including the rediculous prices for the nighthawk (240 MILLIONS), the nighthawk is worse than the drake will ever be. I love the new ships, but you shouldnt punish those who trained months for a tech 2 upgrade. the nighthawk is more like a dove. it doesnt ooze any danger besides the color and the name. this ship is a huge disappointment.
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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 03:02:00 -
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I personally give a crap about the drake. I dont see any reason why a week day old noob should fly one of the best ships available. and you dont need 14 days to fly the drake. you need a week. tops. if you dont specialize.
I dont care if the drake has 7 launchers or 5. I dont care if the drake sucks or not. I dont whine about tech 1 stuff. why? because I learned that if I am unhappy with tech 1, I invest time to get tech 2 equipment. And now I am ****ed.
I just dont like the fact that I spent so much time training for something any noob can get and can get much cheaper. I dont think they will ask 240 millions for the drake, now wont they?
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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Viictoria Edited by: Viictoria on 26/11/2006 03:32:44
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo I personally give a crap about the drake. I dont see any reason why a week day old noob should fly one of the best ships available. and you dont need 14 days to fly the drake. you need a week. tops. if you dont specialize.
I dont care if the drake has 7 launchers or 5. I dont care if the drake sucks or not. I dont whine about tech 1 stuff. why? because I learned that if I am unhappy with tech 1, I invest time to get tech 2 equipment. And now I am ****ed.
I just dont like the fact that I spent so much time training for something any noob can get and can get much cheaper. I dont think they will ask 240 millions for the drake, now wont they?
Dev confirmed the changes to the Nighthawk were going in but were not ready yet, or something. This was a few days ago, in a post in Ships and Modules I believe. I'll see if I can find it...
Edit: Can't find it ... will update later if I do. A few have claimed the RoF has been improved on SiSi though, just not the description
the thread's name is: "A bit more changes" in ships and modules.... yes, I just checked. RoF is much higher as it should be... about the 20% which I should get with command ships IV.... I sure hope it really will be in the final version. the posting was from 10.19.2006... more than enough time to change your mind...
but IF the nighthawk gets the RoF bonus, it is better than a 7th missile slot... but I still dont get why so much on the Drake screams Tech 2 and not Tier 2...
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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Atar I hate to say it, but the tank on these caldari ships is to the point of silly, I can get 18000 shield with a 400 recharge and 70%+ on all resits totally passive tank, including passive hardeners with a full rack of heavy missiles!
Yeah....
you are perfectly right: you can fit an incredible tank on some caldari ships; BUT then you cant kill anything bigger than a frig. damage output on caldari command ships is rediculously LOW. what use is it to be able to tank against a BS when you cannot even kill a well fit BC with it? not including the fact that you indeed CAN shoot down missiles but NOT bullets/hybrid charges/laser beams.
with DEFENDER missiles (which DO WORK GREATLY by the way), anyone can survive the best fit caldari missile boat without breaking sweat. that most people are too stupid to do that doesnt justify all the trashtalk about the supposed "caldari-nberness". in PvP caldari have a serious drawback because of this among other reasons.
what good is the best PvE build when you are unable to deal enough damage in PvP?
I am not really unhappy about Caldari, though. and I am not displeased about the missile situation. I do NOT think that caldari needs a buff or anything like that. I think it all works out pretty well atm. but the command ship situation is ****ing me off. the training time is NOTHING compared to the expensive slug you get.
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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aki Yamato You always must choose between ofence and defence..
Drake is now very strong ship, but not overpowered, not overnerfed. Adventage of NH above Drake is greater CPU witch allows fit launcher rigs easily (witch is bit difficult on drake).
BTW I agree with 7th turret on Hurry
I have no problems fitting the drake with 7 tech II launchers. and that 30 more cpu dont make up for the 140(!) more powergrid and 1 more rig slot.
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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.26 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Aki Yamato You always must choose between ofence and defence..
that tells me you missed the point or you simply dont get the problem discussed here. point is: you CANNOT choose between offense and defense, because strong offense is simply not an option on the NH. it is NOT possible. it IS however possible on other command ships which have similar tanking abilities. (keep the 710 powergrid of the NH in mind)
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Nalshiga Dshoayo
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Posted - 2006.11.27 14:45:00 -
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Edited by: Nalshiga Dshoayo on 27/11/2006 14:49:00
Originally by: Aki Yamato
Originally by: Nalshiga Dshoayo
Originally by: Aki Yamato You always must choose between ofence and defence..
Drake is now very strong ship, but not overpowered, not overnerfed. Adventage of NH above Drake is greater CPU witch allows fit launcher rigs easily (witch is bit difficult on drake).
BTW I agree with 7th turret on Hurry
I have no problems fitting the drake with 7 tech II launchers. and that 30 more cpu dont make up for the 140(!) more powergrid and 1 more rig slot.
You saw a New NH ? You are compering ald and broken ship (with 90% firepower of cerberus). So lets wait for new NH and then we can compare ....
YES OF COURSE I AM TALKING ABOUT THE "NEW" one. which is SAME as old one with a RoF bonus. puts it 8% above drake in damage output. I am not a person like you obviously are, who talks about stuff he/she does not have a clue about. you just have to log on to singularity to fly one. (if you have the skills - which you dont have, otherwise you would know what a piece of crap that expensive slug really is.)
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