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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2015.04.10 14:30:53 -
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DarkFuture wrote:was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...
i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.
prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time
what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy..
People think ignorance or weakness is at the heart of most people susceptibility to scamming (not just in game, it real life).
In reality, the thing that makes people susceptible to scamming is GREED.
So many people have been parted from their money (real and isk) because they tried to make 'a ton of money'. You could have very simply right clicked on your p-lex and sold it to sell orders in Jita. Not as much as the scammer seemed to be offering, but had you don't that you would not now be here posting about it. |
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
1009
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Posted - 2015.04.10 14:38:43 -
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Don't take it so hard, DarkFuture.
When I was new, I was trying to get creative with making ISK, so put my younger sister up on contract as a sex slave. Someone offered me a trade window deal, and I took it. Was totally ripped off. Haven't seen my sister since 2008, and I only got 400 million for her. I could've had, like, a hundred times that much if I'd been more patient.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2015.04.10 14:46:10 -
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What a stupid thing to do
Also OP never do any of these things...
EVEBoard ...Just over 20million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:10:57 -
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Well that is a depressing reminder to start the weekend.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23576
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Posted - 2015.04.10 15:16:43 -
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Bagatur I wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:DarkFuture wrote:was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...
i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.
prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time
what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy.. Would you ask a random stranger on the street to cash your paycheck? Because that's what you just did in Jita. cash your paycheck? little kiddies like you shouldnt talk, because you obviously never had paycheck. nobody can cash it except yourself, so nobody can take your money. Firstly, I'm not a kiddy. Secondly, I've been earning paychecks for nearly 30 years. Thirdly, I can take a paycheck into various places and get it exchanged for cash, not all of them are banks.
Quote:even if it was possible, the situation is not even close to trade window scam. trade window scam is like you selling something on a real-life market, a guy comes to buy, shows that he has the money, you hand over the goods and he hands you the money, but he manages to hide the majority of it in his sleeve or something. and before you notice it, he has the goods and disappears. only in real life he doesnt disappear, he is there to either give you the rest of the money, the goods back or get the crap beat out of him. trade window scam has no analogy in real life. In real life he's already got your stuff and a car waiting, if you do catch him and beat the crap out of him the police arrest you for assault. Get real. The analogy is apt btw.
Quote:but dont let that make climb off of your high horse since you either were a trade window scam victim or read about it in the forums, like I did. I haven't been a victim of the trade window scam because I don't do stupid crap with my stuff, rule #2 of Eve is "trust nobody, not even your alts". Your horse appears to be somewhat taller than mine, be careful how you get off it.
Before you go off on one of these little rants you should consider the kind of game that Eve is, and the things that it allows.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
278
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:02:10 -
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Is this a scam to get donations? |
Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:14:32 -
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Shiloh Templeton wrote:Is this a scam to get donations?
You look honest.
I don't trust you.
Turret-Equivalent of the Rapid ML Concept //
Make BS & BC Worth the Warp!
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Xercodo
Vector Galactic
4157
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:14:59 -
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People don't bash you for being scammed.
They bash you because you bitched about it.
If you go "whoops, I got scammed" we'll take more of of a "oh well it happens". Admittedly, though, there are more experienced players that find it abusing an embarrassing that anyone could ever get scammed in the first place because they're all "so obvious" so expect some bash from those guys :3
Lesson though, don't use trade window unless you REALLY trust them.
The Drake is a Lie
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
4293
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:16:17 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post.
The Rules: 20. All posts must be related to EVE Online.
Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only.
This thread has also been moved to Crime & Punishment.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1362
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:17:30 -
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Xercodo wrote:People don't bash you for being scammed.
They bash you because you bitched about it.
If you go "whoops, I got scammed" we'll take more of of a "oh well it happens". Admittedly, though, there are more experienced players that find it abusing an embarrassing that anyone could ever get scammed in the first place because they're all "so obvious" so expect some bash from those guys :3
Lesson though, don't use trade window unless you REALLY trust them. You could "trade" with me all day, handsome....... ;)
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
215
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:35:58 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Xercodo wrote:People don't bash you for being scammed.
They bash you because you bitched about it.
If you go "whoops, I got scammed" we'll take more of of a "oh well it happens". Admittedly, though, there are more experienced players that find it abusing an embarrassing that anyone could ever get scammed in the first place because they're all "so obvious" so expect some bash from those guys :3
Lesson though, don't use trade window unless you REALLY trust them. You could "trade" with me all day, handsome....... ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS0LR7Ne3ac
Turret-Equivalent of the Rapid ML Concept //
Make BS & BC Worth the Warp!
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
9101
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Posted - 2015.04.10 16:59:35 -
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Baaaaahahaha, more threads like this! o7 to the scammer and well played.
If you cant bounce back from a mistake in eve, go play wow ;) |
Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
663
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:17:10 -
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Looks like Einstein was right, human stupidity is infinite.
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
21077
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:43:35 -
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DarkFuture wrote:was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...
i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.
prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time
what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy..
Well, it appears that Trade Window Scams are the new FOTW.
It also appears that proofless 'I got scammed' threads are FOTM.
I cannot prosecute and/or defend anyone without proof people.. this proofless thread took it one step further.. AND DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO POST THE NAME OF THE SUPPOSED SCAMMER.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Trajan Unknown
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
8
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Posted - 2015.04.10 18:05:27 -
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Why continue bashing him in here too?
I mean, it should be common sense to not "risk" what you can-¦t afford to lose but no need to bash him all over again. I guess the Jita locals burned him down enough.
Just don-¦t trade like that any more except it is with a friend/coorpmate you know and you are aware of how the trade window actually works. Besides that, smile on the people who make the most fun of you, most of them did something similar stupid at least once so you are not alone. 2 Plex is much in the beginning or at least for most people but you can make up for it pretty fast. I for example deathcloned through ~4billion with 2 pods, let my brother who never played EvE welp 2 factions cruisers because I was too lazy too grind some standings back then (~1.6bil each) and some other things. Most of that not on this account but well, so far but it still hurt my wallet a bit. So far I never got scammed because I simply don-¦t sell plex outside of the market and use contracts just when I know what I am doing. In the end it-¦s not too hard to not get scammed just read the details and follow some simple rules like mentioned above and in this thread. Knowing the scams can-¦t hurt either but if you keep your trading stuff within the market, don-¦t buy weird things, don-¦t do contracts/courier contracts that look too good and don-¦t engage in trading pvp without knowing what you do and by not starting little you should be fine.
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Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University Amarr Empire
221
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Posted - 2015.04.10 19:58:43 -
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Trajan Unknown wrote:Why continue bashing him in here too?
Yes, we must substantiate idle talk with War Declarations.
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
2363
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Posted - 2015.04.10 21:29:53 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:DarkFuture wrote:was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...
i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.
prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time
what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy.. Well, it appears that Trade Window Scams are the new FOTW. It also appears that proofless 'I got scammed' threads are FOTM. I cannot prosecute and/or defend anyone without proof people.. this proofless thread took it one step further.. AND DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO POST THE NAME OF THE SUPPOSED SCAMMER.
Well in all honesty, do we really NEED to post the name?
We all know who it was....
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
21077
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Posted - 2015.04.10 23:04:09 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:DarkFuture wrote:was in jita just bought 2 plex for 35 usd, dude opened a trade window witha ton of isk in it, i put both plex i and acceptd and next thing i know its 800k isk offered...
i got 800k isk for 2 plexs and i have6 days of game time left with a 1m wallet.
prety sure im screwed, since i have no possible way of making that isk for a new plex in time
what hurt too is everyone in jita was bashing me ans laughing at me for it like im the bad guy.. Well, it appears that Trade Window Scams are the new FOTW. It also appears that proofless 'I got scammed' threads are FOTM. I cannot prosecute and/or defend anyone without proof people.. this proofless thread took it one step further.. AND DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO POST THE NAME OF THE SUPPOSED SCAMMER. Well in all honesty, do we really NEED to post the name? We all know who it was....
But we need the name to add to the list of known Nitshe alts!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
163
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Posted - 2015.04.11 01:42:17 -
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Appropriate
Very entertaining
Much content
So Eve
Such Blogging
http://eve12monthchallenge.blogspot.com.au/
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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
163
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Posted - 2015.04.11 01:43:41 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Well, it appears that Trade Window Scams are the new FOTW.
It also appears that proofless 'I got scammed' threads are FOTM.
I cannot prosecute and/or defend anyone without proof people.. this proofless thread took it one step further.. AND DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO POST THE NAME OF THE SUPPOSED SCAMMER.
The Court of Crime and Punishment has also been awaiting a name so we can begin to even look at this claim. As it stands I am of a mind to fine the OP for wasting this Courts time
Very entertaining
Much content
So Eve
Such Blogging
http://eve12monthchallenge.blogspot.com.au/
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Yakito Cuper
Space Busters
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Posted - 2015.04.11 02:36:06 -
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Whenever I felt like coming back to Eve I came to these forums, read a few posts and reminded me that people in here are the absolute worst gaming community has to offer. It beats LoL community by miles. I failed today though. Dumb promotion.
Did you expect somebody to feel pitty for you? A normal person would. I feel your pain. I guess I kept being disconnected from Eve douchebaggery for all these years, or perhaps I just have more empathy than a rock. Then again, I remember accidentally selling my Megathron for 600k. And it was the one that GM returned to me after a Goon used an exploit to destroy it :D First it made me sad, but now I am laughing about it. My lesson was much cheaper than yours, though.
I think losing real money in Eve is the worst thing. I don't think that is very funny or that you should be insulted for it. You worked for it, and nobody respects that. It's like playing with legal thieves. Literally.
Don't come to the forums asking for help or pity. It's a trash can for trolls with mental issues and complexes. Last Eve player I met in person was an obese man with horrible skin problems. I can tell you that I have met less nice people in Eve than I have fingers on my one hand. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
163
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Posted - 2015.04.11 02:51:17 -
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Yakito Cuper wrote:Whenever I felt like coming back to Eve I came to these forums, read a few posts and reminded me that people in here are the absolute worst gaming community has to offer. It beats LoL community by miles. I failed today though. Dumb promotion.
Did you expect somebody to feel pitty for you? A normal person would. I feel your pain. I guess I kept being disconnected from Eve douchebaggery for all these years, or perhaps I just have more empathy than a rock. Then again, I remember accidentally selling my Megathron for 600k. And it was the one that GM returned to me after a Goon used an exploit to destroy it :D First it made me sad, but now I am laughing about it. My lesson was much cheaper than yours, though.
I think losing real money in Eve is the worst thing. I don't think that is very funny or that you should be insulted for it. You worked for it, and nobody respects that. It's like playing with legal thieves. Literally.
Don't come to the forums asking for help or pity. It's a trash can for trolls with mental issues and complexes. Last Eve player I met in person was an obese man with horrible skin problems. I can tell you that I have met less nice people in Eve than I have fingers on my one hand. Actually coming to this forum looking for help is quite valid. You will find many examples of people asking questions after presenting an honest non whinging version of events and getting guided through the process that occurred and how to avoid it in the future. We are however predators at heart and the cry of a wounded animal draws out the worst predatory instincts in us. I recommend rejoining eve and assisting in this new 'No NewBro left behind' initiative being run by one of the regular 'contributors' to this forum. Perhaps you can do some good in there.
PS I can confirm that every eve player is obese with skin problems. Just like every wow player is 12 and steals their mummies credit card to pay for their subscriptions and epic loots.
Very entertaining
Much content
So Eve
Such Blogging
http://eve12monthchallenge.blogspot.com.au/
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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
4159
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Posted - 2015.04.11 12:12:57 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:Xercodo wrote:People don't bash you for being scammed.
They bash you because you bitched about it.
If you go "whoops, I got scammed" we'll take more of of a "oh well it happens". Admittedly, though, there are more experienced players that find it abusing an embarrassing that anyone could ever get scammed in the first place because they're all "so obvious" so expect some bash from those guys :3
Lesson though, don't use trade window unless you REALLY trust them. You could "trade" with me all day, handsome....... ;)
Trading without contract protection?
Oh my.
The Drake is a Lie
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
266
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Posted - 2015.04.11 12:17:11 -
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DarkFuture wrote: its 800k isk offered....
Isn't 1 PLEX worth 800 million isk alone? So it would be 1.6 Billion for 2 PLEX... I am having trouble believing this.
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Melenos
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.04.11 17:01:26 -
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I'm getting sick by reading this thread.
Not because of the initial post, even if it was a stupid thing to do. I'm rather sickened by a crowd of people bashing an individual because they spend a few frickin years on a game and now feel like the badass of the block. It's no wonder eve has a relatively small amount of new players if even the place where you go to get _help_ is so toxic.
People coming from other games (Yes, there's a world outside of eve) may trade personal because they don't know different and CCP simply doesn't care to actually fix the trade interface or remove it completly. You can do all kind of things with it including linking wrong item images.
In the end, try to get over it. If you can't, it's probably not the right game for you. You won't get any reimbursement. |
d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
121
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Posted - 2015.04.11 17:53:44 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:DarkFuture wrote: its 800k isk offered.... Isn't 1 PLEX worth 800 million isk alone? So it would be 1.6 Billion for 2 PLEX... I am having trouble believing this.
Exactly what i found odd... He should have gotten 1.6 million not 800k when he got scammed... |
malcovas Henderson
THoF
361
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Posted - 2015.04.11 18:01:07 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:
Isn't 1 PLEX worth 800 million isk alone? So it would be 1.6 Billion for 2 PLEX... I am having trouble believing this.
I am having trouble believing it, not because of this. But because to pay 3months worth of subs, for 2 months worth of gametime to sell, when only 6 days on clock is left ticking, rewrites the level of stupidity's boundaries. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.04.12 15:29:25 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Actually coming to this forum looking for help is quite valid. You will find many examples of people asking questions ... and getting guided through the process that occurred and how to avoid it in the future. .... Yes. Straight away people were talking about the market and contract in this thread. So the OP can take that away. It would have been a very different thread if the original poster had come in and said, "How do you avoid scams when selling PLEX?"
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
195
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Posted - 2015.04.12 15:51:41 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Actually coming to this forum looking for help is quite valid. You will find many examples of people asking questions ... and getting guided through the process that occurred and how to avoid it in the future. .... Yes. Straight away people were talking about the market and contract in this thread. So the OP can take that away. It would have been a very different thread if the original poster had come in and said, "How do you avoid scams when selling PLEX?" The other issue is it didn't come to our fine section of the forum first. We here at C&P pride ourselves on our customer service and our interactions with our fellow capsuleers
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