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getsomemuthafunster
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Posted - 2006.10.27 12:41:00 -
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Is there such a thing??
I mean could you use a rook or SB to wreak havoc anywhere??
Being a newbie I am trying to see whether or not its worth going down these traing routes?? I like the idea of stealth but if its useless for killing then theres not much point.
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Lanfear's Bane
Daughters of the Night
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Posted - 2006.10.27 12:54:00 -
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Concentrating on everything you have to train in between that and learn as you go is a more suitable target IMO.
Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
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kublai
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.10.27 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: getsomemuthafunster Is there such a thing??
I mean could you use a rook or SB to wreak havoc anywhere??
Being a newbie I am trying to see whether or not its worth going down these traing routes?? I like the idea of stealth but if its useless for killing then theres not much point.
Aight, here is what you do. Take the best tech I cruiser for your race, and focus ALL your training points towards improving this ship.
Once you can fit this ship with full tech II fittings and great supporting skills, you begin training for a recon cruiser of that same race.
Voila, not only have you been learning piracy in a great ship that resembles your dream ship, you can now perfectly fly your dream ship once you've taken the remaining skills.
Any questions you have about it being worth it or not, you will find the answers for cruiser pirating on your own.
And btw, this will take several months, recon cruisers arent newbie ships if you wanto kill ****zle in them, I recomend going for amarr if you -really- wish to focus on recon though, the pilgrim and curse are two truly amazing pirate ships.
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Biznachola
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Posted - 2006.10.27 13:28:00 -
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Yes there is. I've been doing it with my main for a month+ now. Since I don't have all that much time to play it's great. The "oh ****" that your victim are most likely uttering when you pop right in front of them is priceless... and they thought slowboating to the gate just couse they don't see anyone is a good idea...
However with the coming nerf of stabs this practice will be obsolete... . However they are useful in any situation not only for solo, for small gangs or even big battles you'll be always usefull. Also as you train for recons you will be able to flying hacs too
If you go for it however don't go for rook. Pilgrim or Rapier (what I fly) or Lachesis will do you much better for solo. Actually scratch the Pilgrim in begining couse you'll need drone skills and Drone Interfacing to V (i trian it now it was 20days for me) to get more drones since that is how he does his damage.
my 2 cents anyway
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Wilhelm Beck
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Posted - 2006.10.27 13:47:00 -
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A stealth bomber is a very fun piracy ship. Not great solo, but in a frigate gang it provides some much needed firepower. Plus, a little cloak can go a long way particularly when your prey is trying to escape.
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kublai
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.10.27 13:51:00 -
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I am right, do as I said or you will regret it
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Deathhawk
Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Biznachola
However with the coming nerf of stabs this practice will be obsolete... . However they are useful in any situation not only for solo, for small gangs or even big battles you'll be always usefull. Also as you train for recons you will be able to flying hacs too
EH? I ROCK - DH
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:46:00 -
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stabs on a recon ship? wtf?
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B0rn2KiLL
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2006.10.27 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Deathhawk
Originally by: Biznachola
However with the coming nerf of stabs this practice will be obsolete... . However they are useful in any situation not only for solo, for small gangs or even big battles you'll be always usefull. Also as you train for recons you will be able to flying hacs too
EH?
LOL ---
new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.27 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Pestillence on 27/10/2006 15:10:05
Originally by: Biznachola Yes there is. I've been doing it with my main for a month+ now. Since I don't have all that much time to play it's great. The "oh ****" that your victim are most likely uttering when you pop right in front of them is priceless... and they thought slowboating to the gate just couse they don't see anyone is a good idea...
However with the coming nerf of stabs this practice will be obsolete... . However they are useful in any situation not only for solo, for small gangs or even big battles you'll be always usefull. Also as you train for recons you will be able to flying hacs too
If you go for it however don't go for rook. Pilgrim or Rapier (what I fly) or Lachesis will do you much better for solo. Actually scratch the Pilgrim in begining couse you'll need drone skills and Drone Interfacing to V (i trian it now it was 20days for me) to get more drones since that is how he does his damage.
my 2 cents anyway
Drone interfacing V for more drones eh?
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Arkani Gera
The Movement
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Posted - 2006.10.27 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Biznachola ...my main... ...nerf of stabs this practice will be obsolete...
name and shame the moron who wastes lowslots on wcs when flying a "cov-ops:able" ship
The corp is mother, the corp is father.
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Biznachola
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Posted - 2006.10.27 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Biznachola on 27/10/2006 15:35:24 YES... stabs on a recon ship, don't see nothing wrong with that. It allows me to pop out and start fights with 3-4 ships, pick the weakest target.. kill it, pick second weakest...kill it, then bail. The fact that many ppl get annoyed by that is an extra bonus. We are talkin about soloing, absolutelly nothing wrong with stabing, it allows me to be much braver as I can GTFO if thigs don't go my way. Favorite thing is killing haulers with escort, they think that just couse they have BS and bunch of tacklers it be safe...
So don't give me that crap about "OMG he uses stabs"... effective solo=stabs. Lost only 1 recon up to now and couse I jumped in a bubble.
We talkin about beeing a sneaky bastard not "oh i'm too good and brave for stabs". I'm rich I ain't rich enough to thow away 140+ mil a day. Been doing it for a month (i know not that long) during that month on several ocasion my life was saved by ths stabs.... i love me stabies
P.S:Although once they nurf stabs maybe i give ECM burst a try, although i see it has rather short range. Anyone been using that strategy as a "OMG I gotta GTFO" strategy? Any info on it's efectivness will be appreciated.
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Biznachola
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Posted - 2006.10.27 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Pestillence
Drone interfacing V for more drones eh?
Well, you need Drone Interfacing V to start trainin Advanced Drone Interfacing which gives 1 estra dronie, no?
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xenodia
Gallente RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.27 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: getsomemuthafunster Is there such a thing??
I mean could you use a rook or SB to wreak havoc anywhere??
Being a newbie I am trying to see whether or not its worth going down these traing routes?? I like the idea of stealth but if its useless for killing then theres not much point.
Recons are great at it. Stealth bombers... not so great.
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kublai
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.10.27 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Biznachola
Originally by: Pestillence
Drone interfacing V for more drones eh?
Well, you need Drone Interfacing V to start trainin Advanced Drone Interfacing which gives 1 estra dronie, no?
I guess you're right, with only 5 drones a ship is pretty nerfed, i only have 5 on my dominix, do you think i'm a newbie for not using 10?
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Darius Falc
Gallente Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.10.27 16:31:00 -
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Lachesis ftw..this is simply one of the best pirating ships in eve IMHO and one of the most underated. With three T2 heavy missile launchers and T2 med rails it can rain down a fairly withering DPS at range. It can lock you down with scrams and damps at 40KMs (with standard disruptors) and run a cap booster, sensor booster and AB/MWD at the same time. You can dampen a BS to 10 KMs and take it out with one of these babies. Then you've got the 4 med drones on top :D. Cheap too..at 40 M each and a insurance of 15 M they're just about the cheapest to loose.
I love the Arazu too but it doesn't have the firepower of the lachesis.
DF. ***********************************************
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Fto Cruise
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Posted - 2006.10.27 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Biznachola
Lost only 1 recon up to now and couse I jumped in a bubble.
You mean you didn't log off???
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Aries Silvermoon
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Posted - 2006.10.27 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Biznachola
Originally by: Pestillence
Drone interfacing V for more drones eh?
Well, you need Drone Interfacing V to start trainin Advanced Drone Interfacing which gives 1 estra dronie, no?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't advanced drone interfacing simply allow the use of drone control units? They give you extra drones, but is that really how you use your highslots?
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Atreus Minmatarius
The Moral Majority
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Posted - 2006.10.27 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Atreus Minmatarius on 27/10/2006 20:55:26 recons are definetelly usefull for pirating, still learning the ropes though
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JustBlaze
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Posted - 2006.10.27 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: kublai I am right, do as I said or you will regret it
she isnt joking
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.27 21:11:00 -
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Pilgrim ftw =============================================== We are Watching You. |
Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.27 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aries Silvermoon
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't advanced drone interfacing simply allow the use of drone control units? They give you extra drones, but is that really how you use your highslots?
It's also a capital ship module. Kublai is just mocking the prior poster's lack of knowledge.
Yes, 5 drones is all you get.
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Biznachola
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Posted - 2006.10.27 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Originally by: Aries Silvermoon
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't advanced drone interfacing simply allow the use of drone control units? They give you extra drones, but is that really how you use your highslots?
It's also a capital ship module. Kublai is just mocking the prior poster's lack of knowledge.
Yes, 5 drones is all you get.
oh well, don't know much about drones, nothing new here... also kublai, baby jesus gives cancer to those that speak sarcastic so close to his b-day. so look forward to that...
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Vladimir Norkoff
Crimson Knights Trade Federation Thundering Mantis
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Posted - 2006.10.27 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: kublai Aight, here is what you do. Take the best tech I cruiser for your race, and focus ALL your training points towards improving this ship.
Once you can fit this ship with full tech II fittings and great supporting skills, you begin training for a recon cruiser of that same race.
Kublai is sooo right here.. Everyone knows that Thorax tactics and Lach tactics are identical! Same with the Caracal and the Rook!.. Yes, kublai is a prophet and you should follow his teachings devoutly..
ie. For Caldari and Gallente you should focus on the Celestis and Blackbird rather than the "best" T1 cruiser.. While I do love the Cel and BB dearly, they are NOT the best cruisers for their race.. Good? Yes.. Best? No..
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Darius Falc
Gallente Corsets and Carebears Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.10.27 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Falc on 27/10/2006 22:19:33
Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff
Originally by: kublai Aight, here is what you do. Take the best tech I cruiser for your race, and focus ALL your training points towards improving this ship.
Once you can fit this ship with full tech II fittings and great supporting skills, you begin training for a recon cruiser of that same race.
Kublai is sooo right here.. Everyone knows that Thorax tactics and Lach tactics are identical! Same with the Caracal and the Rook!.. Yes, kublai is a prophet and you should follow his teachings devoutly..
ie. For Caldari and Gallente you should focus on the Celestis and Blackbird rather than the "best" T1 cruiser.. While I do love the Cel and BB dearly, they are NOT the best cruisers for their race.. Good? Yes.. Best? No..
Vlad is right here...the Celestis is good practice for recons but you'll have more luck if you partner up with a friend. You do the EW in the Celestis (Dampeners ftw...especially after the patch) and your friend in a cruiser or battlecruise is the damage dealer. I haven't really tried this much as I went very quickly into recons but I've heard that fitting a mwd can be a good thing to keep you out of range of whatever you're dampening (I sometimes use an MWD in my lach and arazu set-ups...good in 0.0 for badness at gates).
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kublai
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.10.27 22:24:00 -
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The best route I can think of is to train amarr cruiser and start flying Arbitrator, focus your skills around this ship and use it in piracy, when your arbi skills are great simply move up to the t2 recon version of the same ship, those are by most considered the most powerfull recon cruisers in the game for piracy, having been owned by them and flown with them i'll vouch for that (not ignoring the very good gallente ones mind you).
The arbi is a good ship that is rather a challenge to manage, as it's player skill intensive as oppose to just sp intensive, but resembles it's recon version in an uncanny way.
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xenodia
Gallente RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.27 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Falc
I love the Arazu too but it doesn't have the firepower of the lachesis.
DF.
Ive always found the ability to warp while cloaked more than compensates for the loss of 1 high slot compared to the lachesis. With T2 rails and T2 drones, the firepower on the arazu isnt that bad, especially compared to other force recons. Ive solo killed megathrons in my arazu. Took a while, but I got the job done eventually.
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xenodia
Gallente RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.27 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Aries Silvermoon
Originally by: Biznachola
Originally by: Pestillence
Drone interfacing V for more drones eh?
Well, you need Drone Interfacing V to start trainin Advanced Drone Interfacing which gives 1 estra dronie, no?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't advanced drone interfacing simply allow the use of drone control units? They give you extra drones, but is that really how you use your highslots?
Yes, I think Kublai was stealthily trying to expose Biznachola's complete lack of knowledge.
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HarelquinXepa
Amarria Auxilia The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.06 04:44:00 -
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I used to pirate a ton in my pilgrim killing off NPC'ers. Great fun! Sit in a belt cloaked and wait for a guy to come along...decloak, scramble, launch drones, ecm him, nos nos nos :)
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Hobbledehoy
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Posted - 2006.11.06 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: getsomemuthafunster Is there such a thing??
I mean could you use a rook or SB to wreak havoc anywhere??
Being a newbie I am trying to see whether or not its worth going down these traing routes?? I like the idea of stealth but if its useless for killing then theres not much point.
Ya they're great if you dare to actually leave empire... I've never empire pirated, but somehow i don't think these are the ships for that job...
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