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LuckyQuarter
Lucky Galactic Expeditions
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Posted - 2015.04.14 21:20:07 -
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I hope to be forming a corp with ~4 chars, along with their alts, and setting up in a wormhole soon. Focus will be the complete spectrum of pvp and pve, although hopefully the pvp will be limited to the fights we aren't at too much of a disadvantage at to begin with. We do also hope to do the full industry thing, including ore and gas mining..but we don't have any expensive bpo's yet.
Given that, I see we have three real choices for holes:
c2 with hs static c2 with ls static c3 with ls static
C2 is probably the proper size to begin with, but some of our chars have 2-3 accounts with many alts and I'm worried the c2 might seem too small - especially as the corp grows. Also, c3 gas is much better than c2....but would we be nuts to start out in a c3? LS static in c3 would make logistics a little harder but I assume we can manage it...HS static in a c3 would likely make our hole too tempting of a target given the corp size?
What would you all suggest? Yes, I realize we'll have to find the right hole or buy access to it. |
Kynric
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2015.04.14 21:41:54 -
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The choice of static is far more important than the home system. If you want to farm or pew in a c3 it is far better to have a c3 static than a c3 home. As such I would recommend a 4 or 2 with appropriate statics. If constrained to your list of three the c2/c2/low is the choice. I find high sec statics to be more of a nuisance than a boon. You will get heron ganks from them but also high sec campers which will be a hazard to navigation but not much actual fight. In practice it is even more risk averse than station games as people on stations cant dock if aggressed but those on a hole can jump. |
Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.04.14 21:48:06 -
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If you want to roam and won't rely on WH sites for too much isk, 2>2/LS is top notch. As long as you can use blockade runners, it won't be too hard to resupply.
If you want to make good money from running WH sites, then you'll want a 2>3/HS. This allows you to roll your static for more sites as well as the option to roll for a C3 with a LS/NS exit if you want to go roam/PvP in k-space.
C3 with LS static is great if you want to roam LS a bunch, but your home sites will get farmed out p quickly, so you won't be making a huge amount of money from them. << This is probably worse option
2>2/LS is what I'd recommend if you won't be running mondo sites for money and enjoy scanning massive chains(thanks C2 super highway), also good if you're not planning on rolling your static a lot/at all. ALSO, the C2 static allows you to roll for a 2>5/NS and scan out that holes 5 static which may have the high-end gas sites that make a decent amount of money.
2>3/HS is a great starter hole. Easy logistics, easy money, but less WH PvP opportunities. You'll still have a decent amount of potential WH PvP as connections into C2s are p common, but you won't really be able to roll for WH PvP on demand because the C3 static limits you a bit.
#goodpost
If your corp grows and you want to try something different, in the future I'd recommend moving to a C4 as they now have 2 statics. For now though, I'd recommend trying out a 2>2/LS if it's your first venture into wspace
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Pbatt
Back To Basics.
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Posted - 2015.04.15 05:14:08 -
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As someone who dove straight into WHs in a similar position to you member wise, I think you should seriously evaluate the C4 option.
Double WH statics really is a beautiful thing to have. The massive chains you can accumulate are great.
I think C2 is a good hole to have as home but I think you can get a C4 with just as good perks by having a C3 static ( gauranteed k-space access you can roll ) and a C5 static ( access to C5 highway of chained C5-C5 ). Once you eventually start growing, you will enjoy having access to the C5 content including better isk making opportunities and opportunities to find WH fights.
Make sure you do a few things though. - Large Deathstar Tower is essential, its a PITA to remove one in a low-class WH for crews of less than 20 guys and you can cause a lot of trouble if your manning the guns effectively. - Don't forget extra stront. Don't be scrambling for it after your POS comes out of reinforce. - Bring extra fuel
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Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.04.15 05:41:05 -
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There're a decent amount of fights to be found in low class as well. They just don't get mondo publicized because people aren't blobbing to kill 5b+ worth of caps.
For OP's corp size, the PvP found in low class will be fitting
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Pissfat
Reverse Production
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Posted - 2015.04.15 08:28:13 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:There're a decent amount of fights to be found in low class as well. They just don't get mondo publicized because people aren't blobbing to kill 5b+ worth of caps.
For OP's corp size, the PvP found in low class will be fitting
What is this you are doing? It looks and smells of constructive advice?
FC Please advise. |
Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.04.15 14:44:30 -
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Don't be silly, we all know anyone who lives in null sec only knows about pressing F1 and blobbing and absolutely nothing about WHs. This is obviously a ruse post by pandemic legion to scam OP of all their belongings
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Keskora Yaari
POS Party Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.04.15 14:48:39 -
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Most of the corps in our alliance live in a C2 - HS/C4 and I highly recommend it. When we were starting out we ran C4 sites with a group of 3 tengus and made some very nice isk. Plus now that the C4 has 2 static you can get some awesome chains. Especially if you're looking for mining, having the 2nd static in the C4 increases your chances of getting into the higher class holes where the gas is the best. Plus having the HS is so convenient. We can get anywhere we need to and can always go HS diving if we get bored of the chain. |
Jonn Duune
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve WormHole Occupation and Resource Exploitation
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Posted - 2015.04.15 22:03:11 -
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If your characters are reasonably well skilled (aka you can field a fleet of 5 tengus with RR often), you should probably look at a c4 with c4 and c2 statics. I say this for a couple reasons...
1) Having a c4 static means you'll get immense chains, lots of pvp, and the ability to go 10-15 jumps deep most nights.
2) Having a c2 static means you'll have an easy connection to k-space, and a good chance of longer secondary chains, as c2s are also very common and very active.
This gives you good pvp, and you can get pve either through local or static c4 sites.
That being said, Keskora's c2 with c4/hs is also another viable option. |
Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
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Posted - 2015.04.16 06:09:15 -
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Pissfat wrote:Andrew Jester wrote:There're a decent amount of fights to be found in low class as well. They just don't get mondo publicized because people aren't blobbing to kill 5b+ worth of caps.
For OP's corp size, the PvP found in low class will be fitting What is this you are doing? It looks and smells of constructive advice? FC Please advise.
Yeah no kidding. i've re-read his post numerous times and have still not found the troll part of it. . . This must be what going mad feels like.
---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----
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LuckyQuarter
Lucky Galactic Expeditions
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:49:59 -
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Sincere thank you to all who responded. Your assistance is greatly encouraging.
After review, our small group has decided to setup in a c2 with static hs + c3. Blackhole effect + good pi/planets also on the wishlist.
Thank you for the welcome to the wormhole neighborhood.
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Kiera Rhathe
Blue-Fire Great Blue Balls of Fire
10
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Posted - 2015.04.17 20:47:22 -
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LuckyQuarter wrote:Blackhole effect
Just as long as you know what you're getting into there. |
Zoe Athame
Wolf Riot
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Posted - 2015.04.17 23:36:53 -
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LuckyQuarter wrote: c2 with static hs + c3.
This is probably the most desirable WH system for smaller groups. Good luck finding one and be prepared to fight for it.
LuckyQuarter wrote:Blackhole effect
nevermind what I just said |
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