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skallszy
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Posted - 2006.10.29 17:44:00 -
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The Patriot Society declares war on The Phoenix Wing.
We are tired of the Federation and thier puny efforts to give back Caldari Prime to the Caldari people, an isuues an apology for their wrong doing, in the entire affair after the war. Towards the Caldari as to thier own people the Intakis.
We wanna make sure they understand, that we are serious, therefore this declaration of war against a corporation blinded by thier lies. We want actions to be taken right away. We will not sit back an se the same president do nothing for another 5 years, its time for action!!
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Damien Crescent
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2006.10.29 18:37:00 -
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Soooo in order to take down the president of the Federation you are going to declare war on random federation supporters? Im sure thatll work out just fine... ------------------- Damien Crescent, Scope Reporter.
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Thuul'Khalat
Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2006.10.29 18:39:00 -
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The Phoenix Wing has recieved the declaration, and welcomes it. ---
As one life ends, another rises from the ashes. Ingame Channel - "Phoenixpublic" |
Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.10.29 18:51:00 -
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Kyoko chuckles
Who are you? Really.
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skallszy
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:18:00 -
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Kyoko chuckles
Seems to be the most used two words by Black Rabbits
I am happy to see the Phoenix Wing is ready for a fight.
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Dejhon Vanxler
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:34:00 -
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Im flatterd you think we have so much power and influence....
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:38:00 -
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Puny efforts to give back Caldari Prime?
When did the Federation ever offer to return what they've taken from us and right their wrongs?
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Lucky Hydra Corp The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.29 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Puny efforts to give back Caldari Prime?
When did the Federation ever offer to return what they've taken from us and right their wrongs?
The Caldari signed the Accord which founded the Federation, and it CLEARLY stated that all planets belonging to member factions would become property of the Federation. You left the Federation and thus voided your right to any property owned by it. You have a perfectly good new home planet upon which you live right now, and any Caldari is welcome to return and live on the planet provided they observe local laws.
Besides, Caldari Prime isn't REALLY all that good when you compare it to New Caldari anyway. You know you couldn't possibly control the entire system it's based in anyway, and trying to share control of it would just create even more unneccessary tension.
I'm not saying that bombing it was right, but if the Caldari didn't want to give over their home planet in the first place, they shouldn't have signed the Accord.
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Helpdesk
Caldari The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.29 23:39:00 -
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Not everyone was happy with this. I'm glad to see more people feel the same way.
However, I have not heard about The Phoenix Wing before and thus I do not see how they are related. Then again, I have never heard of you or your corporation before, so please both take this as an opportunity to introduce yourselves. I'm sure Kyoko would agree with me on this.
- MetavirT 'Helpdesk' Archilea
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
The Caldari signed the Accord which founded the Federation, and it CLEARLY stated that all planets belonging to member factions would become property of the Federation. You left the Federation and thus voided your right to any property owned by it. You have a perfectly good new home planet upon which you live right now, and any Caldari is welcome to return and live on the planet provided they observe local laws.
Besides, Caldari Prime isn't REALLY all that good when you compare it to New Caldari anyway. You know you couldn't possibly control the entire system it's based in anyway, and trying to share control of it would just create even more unneccessary tension.
I'm not saying that bombing it was right, but if the Caldari didn't want to give over their home planet in the first place, they shouldn't have signed the Accord.
The Caldari people and all their property where it was located in the universe was never property of the federation.
Being under governance under a formal treaty of alliance such as the federation is not the same as being owned under a formal slave contract.
Back in the day this seems to be a concept the gallente federation had difficulty with. Hence the war.
If your ancestors had remembered that we were partners not slaves in the federation prehaps the war would not have happened.
Its a shame that misconceptions like yours perpetuate to this day, honestly you think we signed some bit of paper and handed you our holdings come off it.
You guys tried to hold on to tight to things that were not your personal property and we had to slap you about a bit to get you to lay off.
Kind of like the horny drunk who accepts the proposition of the gaudy *****, only too think better of it when he sees her face in the street light as hes counting out his money, only to find that she is trying to grab his wallet.
"Peace through the application of fingers in ears and humming real loud" Hoist Battle Ensigns |
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Gorion Wassenar
Caldari Tsurokigaarai Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
The Caldari signed the Accord which founded the Federation, and it CLEARLY stated that all planets belonging to member factions would become property of the Federation.
The only "property" owned by the Caldari Government was on Caldari Prime and the rest was owned privately by the various mega-corps. ------------------
CEO of TKI
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.30 02:39:00 -
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What exactly are these "puny efforts to give back Caldari Prime"? Until they control the Federation "government", this Society doesn't "have" Caldari Prime, so how the hell can they "give" it to anybody? --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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skallszy
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Posted - 2006.10.30 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Helpdesk Not everyone was happy with this. I'm glad to see more people feel the same way.
However, I have not heard about The Phoenix Wing before and thus I do not see how they are related. Then again, I have never heard of you or your corporation before, so please both take this as an opportunity to introduce yourselves. I'm sure Kyoko would agree with me on this.
- MetavirT 'Helpdesk' Archilea
Well Helpdesk if you look through some the Pro Gallente posts on GalNet, you will find Phoenix Wing. We however are new, correct, but I did convo you about a month ago to have a talk about the State affairs.
Well we will try to make yourselves more noticed in the future Helpdesk hopefully you can gain some confidence in us.
And to Nikolai Nuvolari we are not in control of any planet correct. what I am saying is that I hope to raise awareness of the problem from the newly elected president, so that Caldari Prime can be returned to the people of the State.
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Kyogen Steiner
Caldari The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.30 11:08:00 -
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I look foward to see how this progresses. Good to see more patriots with similar views... ------------------------------------------------
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Sable Schroedinger
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.30 11:33:00 -
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It is commonly accepted that an illness will get worse before it gets better.
Lets hope this rise in nationalism is part of the healing process. --------------------------------------------
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Dejhon Vanxler
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2006.10.30 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: skallszy what I am saying is that I hope to raise awareness of the problem from the newly elected president, so that Caldari Prime can be returned to the people of the State.
By starting a war with us? an organisation that is in no way afiliated with the government and more than likely was unknown by them, and will remain so?
so far the logic of all this escapes me.....
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skallszy
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Posted - 2006.10.30 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dejhon Vanxler
Originally by: skallszy what I am saying is that I hope to raise awareness of the problem from the newly elected president, so that Caldari Prime can be returned to the people of the State.
By starting a war with us? an organisation that is in no way afiliated with the government and more than likely was unknown by them, and will remain so?
so far the logic of all this escapes me.....
Well the Phoenix Wing have several times supported the federation, in statements. I am sure the Federation how who are loyal to thier cause, and Im sure they notice. If they wanna listen time will tell.
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Dejhon Vanxler
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2006.10.30 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: skallszy
Well the Phoenix Wing have several times supported the federation, in statements. I am sure the Federation how who are loyal to thier cause, and Im sure they notice. If they wanna listen time will tell.
Ah. now I see, your a terrorist, why didnt you just say so....
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Sylan Taramire
Gallente Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:39:00 -
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It appears to me that the Patriot Society was only looking for a target for their dramatic demonstration of guts. And naturally, the navy was more than they could chew, so they figured a single wing would be a suitable bite.
Fair enough. But we can bite back.
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jinn'meh
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: http://www.phoenix-wing.net
The Phoenix Wing was founded to work towards strengthening the Federation, both through the means of constructive dialouge and diplomacy where prudent, but also through military force where needed.
looks like a caldari target, talks like a caldari target, must be a caldari target.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.31 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: skallszy And to Nikolai Nuvolari we are not in control of any planet correct. what I am saying is that I hope to raise awareness of the problem from the newly elected president, so that Caldari Prime can be returned to the people of the State.
Err, I apologize. I thought you were saying that Phoenix Wing was trying to "give back" Caldari Prime.
I'm not exactly sure how I came to that conclusion, actually...now that I reread what you said, I realize you're not saying that at all...hmm... --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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skallszy
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Posted - 2006.10.31 09:09:00 -
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Edited by: skallszy on 31/10/2006 09:10:34
Originally by: jinn'meh
Originally by: http://www.phoenix-wing.net
The Phoenix Wing was founded to work towards strengthening the Federation, both through the means of constructive dialouge and diplomacy where prudent, but also through military force where needed.
looks like a caldari target, talks like a caldari target, must be a caldari target.
Looks like an alt, speaks like an alt, act like and alt...
alt is a common word used for bodies mind controlled by some other person than the actually spirit inside.
Nikolai Nuvolari, no worries, hopefully we can help each other out in the future
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Slashignore
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Posted - 2006.10.31 11:25:00 -
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Resistance is futile !
Pirates Arrg us( me )
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.10.31 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Slashignore Resistance is futile !
After reading even more of this drivel, I'd say so is this thread.
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Monty Tomasi
Floating Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.31 17:25:00 -
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Courage pilots of the Phoenix Wing. Your defence of the Federation ideals are an inspiration. Fight well.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.31 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: skallszy Nikolai Nuvolari, no worries, hopefully we can help each other out in the future
Definitely. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Maxell Snow
Gallente True Core
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Posted - 2006.11.02 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: skallszy
Nikolai Nuvolari, no worries, hopefully we can help each other out in the future
I find it interesting that a former member of the terrorist group Intaki Union has not only continued their terroristic ways, but they have also offered help to KD, a group who helped support Placid Reborn and their anti pirate position within the Placid region.
This technique of attacking a random corporation because they find the word 'Federation' in their datafeed is nothing new. It is a played out tactic that is transparent enough for all but the most ignorant to decode. |
Yuki Li
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.11.02 15:34:00 -
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How completely defiant of logic.
Please, don't hesitate to completely destroy each other.
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skallszy
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Maxell Snow
Originally by: skallszy
Nikolai Nuvolari, no worries, hopefully we can help each other out in the future
I find it interesting that a former member of the terrorist group Intaki Union has not only continued their terroristic ways, but they have also offered help to KD, a group who helped support Placid Reborn and their anti pirate position within the Placid region.
This technique of attacking a random corporation because they find the word 'Federation' in their datafeed is nothing new. It is a played out tactic that is transparent enough for all but the most ignorant to decode.
Well Maxell itŠs not some random datefeed, the phoenix Wings has openly supported the federation government, that we so strongly try to convince to give back Caldari Prime and give an apology for thier wrong doing.
Yes we support KD and thier efforts to streghten the State. And I cannot see why you see this as something strange? Im sure KD wouldnŠt mind getting Caldari Prime back even if it is not one of thier strongest points of view. I am sure we have many common viewpoints!
So Maxell please donŠt think you know everything about my corporation, and what we stand for.
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