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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 00:49:01 -
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Welcome to Crime and Punishment. And on behalf of everybody here let me say Post with your main or GTFO. Alt posts are not accepted here
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 01:33:07 -
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To add to this if you have 6 active wardecs against you at once your lads are either pissing ppl off or consistently losing shiny stuff.
Adapt to it or die. Delete the weak - Tora Bushido
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 02:24:54 -
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alexclone1 wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Crime and punishment isn't even the appropriate subforum for this thread. Warfare and Tactics would have made more sense. Posting with an alt so nobody is reading as this is C&P not general chat Why bother at this point?
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 02:27:24 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:alexclone1 wrote:"One thing is for sure, I will not let those griefers keep me from enjoying the game and if CCP wont do anything about it I will just have to come up with some tactics to guard against the grief." And yet, if this person reversed the order of the steps he's willing to take, he wouldn't have a problem to begin with. This is the definition of the carebear mentality. Ask for the developers to implement restrictions on anyone who does something you don't like first, and if that fails, only then will they try to do something on their own (or most likely, quit). It's disgusting. Threaten to quit. Over and over and over and over again... Yet they are still here...
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 02:35:05 -
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alexclone1 wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:alexclone1 wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Crime and punishment isn't even the appropriate subforum for this thread. Warfare and Tactics would have made more sense. Posting with an alt so nobody is reading as this is C&P not general chat Why bother at this point? *facedesk* an ISD member moved my thread from general chat to this sub forum. Take it up with him. Again welcome to C&P. We hope you enjoy your stay. As you must be new here I'll Cut you soem slack and recognise this comment and provide you with the first commandment of C&P.
1. Thou Shalt post with thy Main or GTFO.
I hope this clarifies why you will get ignored and be mercilessly trolled until you can follow this simple and quite liberating law of our fine forum. People who follow this rule tend to have a much better time here and find constructive conversation and help. People who hide behind forum alts well... I guess you know by now
PS Post with your main here and ask for a constructive conversation and you will get one. I personally will make sure as long as you don't whine, moan, make demands or threaten to quit and use this 'Main' of yours that it stays (mostly) on topic and you may discover various tactics and strategies used by many players to counter wardecs and any other nefarious activities that those of us who call this forum home happen to use.
PSS Make a new thread here with said 'Main' as this one will never get any of that due to it being created with a forum alt.
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 02:59:42 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:PSS Make a new thread here with said 'Main' as this one will never get any of that due to it being created with a forum alt. This again. Anything you can't substantiate isn't worth anything here. Look forward to reading your new post with your old Character.
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 05:01:12 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:There's a reason why people who make claims about their personage but post with alts.
It's entirely trivial to verify the claim made, and typically if it was verified the details of the situation can shed light on the subject matter.
All alt posting does is make people question your credibility. Forum Alt ramblings I'll humor you. UAE has never claimed to be a pvp'er... He claims to be defense counsel for people accused of misdeeds. he substantiates it with his posts. He is also alot of fun. CODE. posters post as themselves... that's all i got for that.
I post with my main. I notice my credibility didn't get called into question here. Did my kill board not fit your narrative?
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:06:42 -
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Made a new post for ideas and not for whining. If you have any on how to fix it do it there. If you wanna dickfence (I do enjoy a good dickfence) keep it here.
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:17:46 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Made a new post for ideas and not for whining. If you have any on how to fix it do it there. If you wanna dickfence (I do enjoy a good dickfence) keep it here. Enjoy your echo chamber... Dickfencing for you I see.
All me to parry That post is to weed out the useless posts like yours and mine on here so far and to be a forum of ideas
And now for the riposte It may just work as it's in this forum and a call for ideas not a ***** from the OP onwards hidden behind meaningless mostly ignored forum ALT's. Its a palce for ideas, suggestions and discussion not for what... well for what you and I are doing here
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 08:22:57 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Made a new post for ideas and not for whining. If you have any on how to fix it do it there. If you wanna dickfence (I do enjoy a good dickfence) keep it here. Enjoy your echo chamber... Dickfencing for you I see. All me to parry That post is to weed out the useless posts like yours and mine on here so far and to be a forum of ideas And now for the riposte It may just work as it's in this forum and a call for ideas not a ***** from the OP onwards hidden behind meaningless mostly ignored forum ALT's. Its a palce for ideas, suggestions and discussion not for what... well for what you and I are doing here Temper temper, as I said enjoy your echo chamber... You sir are not very good at dickfencing
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 09:45:50 -
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Whoever decided to derail this thread. Well done.
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 09:58:44 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Whoever decided to derail this thread. Well done. You say Marmite cannot destroy a large POS, thats lame... Touch+¬. That's exactly what I posted. As you can quite clearly read in this quote.
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 10:03:09 -
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Sew personally I feel high sec merc corps in their current form need to die. That said they would be replaced by suicide mercs and war Dec assistance mercs. You can read my in depth thoughts on how in a few hours time when I can type it on a computer keyboard
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:39:07 -
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There are a solid 5-6 posts in here on wardecs between 19 pages of drivvel... hence the new thread
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 15:52:53 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:That said, I doube CCP will ever remove NPC corps as they understand that a huge portion of their playerbase uses them to avoid players like yourself who feel you should be able to have all the comfort of a safe highsec but at will remove that safety from anyone you want at a miniscule cost. Why don't you read my proposed changes on the thread that isn't busy discussing everything under the sun wrong with the game while at the same time trolling and dickfencing taking up pretty much every post on each page. What are we on page 16? and maybe 4 solid posts about the subject matter. The other thread has that already without somebody having to read the drivel. Then if you have any ideas on how to improve it please post them there. Avoid trolling arguing and generally being a douche over there and maybe we can make it a thread worth reading and see some real changes happen. Personally i think the current system is broken as and the multiple offensive wardecs needs to end. You can read my ideas on how there and even contribute your own ideas or offer change suggestions to those 1's. With multiple offensive wardecs gone we would do away with the need for NPC corps too and I feel it would make high-sec a much more sociable and interactive place. What do you think on the subject Lucas?
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 16:45:48 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:That said, I doube CCP will ever remove NPC corps as they understand that a huge portion of their playerbase uses them to avoid players like yourself who feel you should be able to have all the comfort of a safe highsec but at will remove that safety from anyone you want at a miniscule cost. Why don't you read my proposed changes on the thread that isn't busy discussing everything under the sun wrong with the game while at the same time trolling and dickfencing taking up pretty much every post on each page. What are we on page 16? and maybe 4 solid posts about the subject matter. The other thread has that already without somebody having to read the drivel. Then if you have any ideas on how to improve it please post them there. Avoid trolling arguing and generally being a douche over there and maybe we can make it a thread worth reading and see some real changes happen. Personally i think the current system is broken as and the multiple offensive wardecs needs to end. You can read my ideas on how there and even contribute your own ideas or offer change suggestions to those 1's. With multiple offensive wardecs gone we would do away with the need for NPC corps too and I feel it would make high-sec a much more sociable and interactive place. What do you think on the subject Lucas? I think that a thread made by a Marmite member, particularly one in the corp you are in is unlikely to remain troll free. I think that multiple offensive wardecs are OK up to a point, but too much once you start hitting double digits for the low price paid. I think removing NPC corps would result in a simply ludicrous number of one man corps and further fragment an already fragmented area. I think that wardecs in their current format encourage players to attack, and reward players for attacking the weakest targets, whereas a well designed mechanic should encourage you to pick a level of challenge that suits your ability and reward you appropriately for that challenge - the best rewards should go to those willing to face the most risk and display the most skill. I think if you read it you will find well thought out ideas and a rather accepting atmosphere. I have also tried to offer exactly that kind of balance in my posts. I am a firm believer in giving corps a chance. Ask eve college. I arranged to end their DEC and told them it would resume in 6 weeks time to give them a chance because they have potential. I want to see what they are in 5.5 weeks. I doubt I'll be able to hold head to head
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.22 18:04:07 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:If you removed the mechanisms for avoiding wardecs, how would that highsec retain any security advantage over other regions? It would be lowsec for any pvp entity with deep pockets.
I proposed a limit on wardecs. Both to offensive and assistance.
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.23 04:23:46 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote: Station hugging. Neutral logi and gank Vindis. Logon traps. Am I close?
It's better then stabbed farming plex's in fw all day
You see what i did there? I made a completly untrue assumption about the way you play with no reaserch for the purpose of arguing and not for the purpose of changing anything
Now to demonstrate some knowledge based on research
You don't in fact stab farm plexs all day (or if you do I'm yet to see you) You seem to be a fairly solid frigate pilot in solo and gangs and have a myriad of losses and kills to your name to show just that. You play ****** little suspect games at times (I do too incidently) and have had some success doing that. that play style however is more hated and stereotyped then even our wardecs. mostly and you have 0 sound knowledge of how to be successful in a wardec rich environment and instead spout of stereotypes instead of checking a kill board or actually displaying some idea of experience.
Now Instead of meaningless back and forth why don't you do your own research into it?. perhaps join a wardec corp for 8 weeks. Make sure you have 1 decent merc on merc war and see what the attraction truly is. then the next time somebody knocks you for suspect games in Nakugaurd (i really do need to police my space better ) you can tell them to give it a try themselves. perhaps they will like it? you never know if you truly like something until you have done it
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.23 11:28:25 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Danalee wrote:Wardecs are broken because GTA5. If CCP fixes GTA5 (make it suck or something) everything is solved. Being offline = more effort than killing stuff 24/7. Welcome to the wonderful TWILIGHT world of dracvlad, the impaler of common sense. D. Whatever you think, but they have a choice try to catch people who are in GTFO ships or GTA 5, guess which one wins, in other words it is s symptom of the issue with war decs, they give NOFUX... What are these GTFO ships you speak of?
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.04.24 07:01:28 -
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Vector Symian wrote:Master Otard
we had relatively good success staying in npc corps and setting up a separate channel. They have the tax but the wardeccs are completely eradicated
if we had a major op we would simply link up to a slave corp do the deed and drop out...keeping the tax at 0 of course
it has worked but never stay in the same place...it is the nomad life for you unfortunately
(once they identify a spike in activity on the map they have a sniff around and set up shop if they like what they see) This is why npc corps need to have a much harsher tax affecting lp and mining yeilds not just isk and a new kind of corp 'Social corp' needs to happen that has restrictions like inability to affect the landscape by placing structures and what not as a trade off of not being decced needs to happen.
NPC corps are cancer. That is all
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Noragen Neirfallas
Cheeki Breeki Corp Meet The Bandits.
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:21:14 -
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Brian Damidge wrote:I may be being ridiculously naive but the war dec fee is just a bribe for CONCORD to look the other way right?
If so, why can't the defender approach CONCORD and give them a little bit more to pay attention again?
Want to shoot someone in High sec? Pay the bribe.
Don't want the guys who bribed CONCORD to shoot you, drop a nice bag of isk on their front counter to not look the other way.
Seems pretty simple and uses an existing premise to do it. 3 things. 1 this is isk shield and raises the bar on wardec costs for both parties. Basically the so called new bro getting griefed out of the game wouldn't be able to afford this option. The only people who would benefit are the stupidly rich.
2 there is a thread suggesting this in f&I ATM that you could lend your support too and read the many reasons this wouldn't be a good thing.
3 isd moved this thread here to die because its got about a dozen relevant posts in the entire thing
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Noragen Neirfallas
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Posted - 2015.05.31 17:52:33 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Yeah, um. That's not gonna happen.
Wardec fees are one of those things that makes ISK actually go away. Those merc alliances that literally make their living off of wars oftentimes dump billions of ISK into concord's pocket in a single week. There has to be some, even though paltry, counter to ISK being endlessly printed from npc bounties and whatnot.
The sploded ships that result from wardecs also increase demand for more ships and modules. Wardecs may need work, but taking them away completely would not be good for the game.
I fail to see why isk going away is a good thing so long as rampant mining is swamping isk production and leading to widespread deflation. Wow. Just wow
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