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CaCi-A 001Me
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.21 22:57:46 -
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kraiting = trying to bait someone into buying a moderatly priced killright (usually around 50mil isk and made availiable by an alt or a friend of the kraiter) while idling near a gate or station in an by comparison relatively cheap t1 industrial. other forms may include freighters and 1bil isk killrights, where the kraiter actually turns a profit on the insurance money, which can net him/her, minus the cost for the freighter and the insurance, up to 700mil isk overall.
i don't play real life, the balancing sucks!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
36219
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:00:36 -
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Not sure this is new. It's been around for a long time.
Often combined with autopiloting.
1. Set an autopilot route with your killright set by your alt as available to anyone for a fee. 2. Begin route 3. Leave computer and do something else 4. Come back to see wallet blinking 5. Profit
But this is the first time I've heard this term for it.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Paranoid Loyd
4816
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:04:17 -
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It's hardly new.
We recently had a whine thread about it as well.
Your non-whiny, informative thread is appreciated.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
999
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:06:40 -
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Well, at least the name appears to be new. Either that, or I just ignore weird nicknames for commonly practiced things. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20835
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:08:06 -
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I really wonder who always comes up with these ****** names.
Kraiting. Hyperdunking.
Sheesh!
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20835
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:10:15 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Not sure this is new. It's been around for a long time.
Often combined with autopiloting.
1. Set an autopilot route with your killright set by your alt as available to anyone for a fee. 2. Begin route 3. Leave computer and do something else 4. Come back to see wallet blinking 5. Profit
But this is the first time I've heard this term for it. I saw you edit that into the post afterwards.
Well played!
Yours truly, speed-editting Sol.
XD
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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CaCi-A 001Me
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:25:09 -
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i have to admit that this practice is rather new to me, since i never checked ships on route for kr's, and they now may strike special attention due to the overview changes a few updates back and the therefor better visibility. or because more and more kraiters pop up around jita (or forge region in general) lately.
but, this post is not about the practice itself but rather about giving it a name and to explain how it's done exactly... maybe even getting it its own place in the scam sections throughout the various wikis.
Solecist Project wrote:I really wonder who always comes up with these ****** names. [...] well, in this case i did. ...you're welcome!
i don't play real life, the balancing sucks!
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20843
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:27:04 -
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YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAHA XD
I'm sorry, that's just hilarious! :D
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1528
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:36:36 -
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This has been a thing since December 4, 2012.
Who put the goat in there?
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6592
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:41:10 -
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Nobody really has control on what we call things. It's a "Pirate Cove by the Island of Pirate" thing after all.
I have an alt with a KR on someone who is very unpopular on the one hand and could make it a public sale KR to make ISK but on the other hand I find the unpopular individual to be a straight shooter (just because someone is unpopular in our collapsing society does not make them bad) and would rather just let it expire.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
1008
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:41:35 -
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You can also just bump a wealthy miner and hope he has no clue how killrights actually work. Also this is old. http://i.imgur.com/m4ycUR0.png
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:45:44 -
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I think the only person who is trying to spread this name is you. I don't see any references anywhere other than from the spam you've been posting in local. |
Paranoid Loyd
4820
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:47:39 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:This has been a thing since December 4, 2012. Much precision, such wow.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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CaCi-A 001Me
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.04.21 23:58:41 -
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Brian Harrelstein wrote:I think the only person who is trying to spread this name is you. I don't see any references anywhere other than from the spam you've been posting in local. exactly, there is nothing about it anywhere and now i am trying to get it there. i never said any different. don't like it? though luck buddy.
btw, posting twice is hardly spamming...
i don't play real life, the balancing sucks!
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Otso Bakarti
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2015.04.22 00:09:30 -
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What a trend setter. He needs his own blog. |
Seraph Essael
eXceed Inc.
1095
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Posted - 2015.04.22 00:09:49 -
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Kill right baiting is a scam, technically.
So why not "Kramming"? Much better sounding...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1528
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Posted - 2015.04.22 00:12:25 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:Kill right baiting is a scam, technically. So why not "Kramming"? Much better sounding...
... or Krapping for those who do it on autopilot.
Who put the goat in there?
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Sturmwolke
640
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Posted - 2015.04.22 00:52:28 -
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Krait is a snake. It's also an excellent fighter from the Elite legacy. Name's taken, buzz off. Let's call it a simple killfaking
The word has excellent prospects for mistranslation. e.g. killfarking, killfucking A little swear word here and is good to grab the attention of the masses.
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CaCi-A 001Me
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.04.22 00:52:53 -
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Solecist Project wrote:YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAHA XD
I'm sorry, that's just hilarious! :D ya? why is that?
Shederov Blood wrote:This has been a thing since December 4, 2012. obviously not otherwise there would be a term for it or any kind of description for this practice.
so now seriously, hands down, what is your problem with me trying to get this out there? noone i know or talked to knew of or anything about this kind of scam, at least not in the way ppl know about the isk doublers or drunk buy order scam. maybe you already knew about it, but the vast majority doesn't seem to. when the kr's finaly showed properly in the overview there were maybe 1 or 2 guys hanging around jita 4-4. now there is 5 and another 5 on various gates on the road to uedama. so apperently this has become a more wider spread scam - a thing - worthy of mentioning. don't like my term? you can call it "one-legged-fool-humping" for all i care...
i don't play real life, the balancing sucks!
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1532
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Posted - 2015.04.22 01:00:37 -
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CaCi-A 001Me wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:This has been a thing since December 4, 2012. obviously not otherwise there would be a term for it or any kind of description for this practice. Here you go. A quick google of "eve online kill right scamming" brought this up as one of the top results.
Who put the goat in there?
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
2896
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Posted - 2015.04.22 01:11:51 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:CaCi-A 001Me wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:This has been a thing since December 4, 2012. obviously not otherwise there would be a term for it or any kind of description for this practice. Here you go.A quick google of "eve online kill right scamming" brought this up as one of the top results. Oh look, a three-year-old thread in which I outlined exactly what the system would turn into.
You bears enjoying your new Crimewatch mechanics yet? The ones that you so desperately supported in order to put a stopper on EVE's whole unmitigated sociopath griefer problem? I know I am.
Seraph Essael wrote:Kill right baiting is a scam, technically. So why not "Kramming"? Much better sounding... Yes!
Shederov Blood wrote:... or Krapping for those who do it on autopilot.
Yeah! From now on when I see someone autopiloting with a killright, I'm going to shout, "IT'S A KRAP!" Oh GOD yes!
All in favor of the motion to name the acts "kramming" and "krapping," respective to their particular traits and nuances, say "aye."
I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
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Kaely Tanniss
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
345
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Posted - 2015.04.22 01:16:30 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:This has been a thing since December 4, 2012.
CaCi-A 001Me wrote:obviously not otherwise there would be a term for it or any kind of description for this practice.
so now seriously, hands down, what is your problem with me trying to get this out there? noone i know or talked to knew of or anything about this kind of scam, at least not in the way ppl know about the isk doublers or drunk buy order scam. maybe you already knew about it, but the vast majority doesn't seem to. when the kr's finaly showed properly in the overview there were maybe 1 or 2 guys hanging around jita 4-4. now there is 5 and another 5 on various gates on the road to uedama. so apperently this has become a more wider spread scam - a thing - worthy of mentioning.
don't like my term? you can call it "one-legged-fool-humping" for all i care...
This type of scam is nothing new. I remember seeing this when i was a noob. Like any other thing, it comes and goes in popularity spurts. Someone saw someone running an old scam..which was new to them...monkey see, monkey do. Next thing you know everyone's trying it. It does have names..killright scamming, insurance scamming.....kraiting..I get it..killright baiting..but tbh it does not need a name to make it a thing. Frankly, I'm seriously surprised you have never noticed this before. Can I interest you in getting your isk doubled? Hehehe.
If you're looking for notoriety, there are better ways to get it than coining a new word for an old action. +1 for not starting another whine thread though.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1535
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Posted - 2015.04.22 01:23:55 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Seraph Essael wrote:Kill right baiting is a scam, technically. So why not "Kramming"? Much better sounding... Yes! Shederov Blood wrote:... or Krapping for those who do it on autopilot.
Yeah! From now on when I see someone autopiloting with a killright, I'm going to shout, "IT'S A KRAP!" Oh GOD yes! All in favor of the motion to name the acts "kramming" and "krapping," respective to their particular traits and nuances, say "aye." Aye!
Who put the goat in there?
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Paranoid Loyd
4833
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Posted - 2015.04.22 01:43:09 -
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Aye!
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9407
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Posted - 2015.04.22 01:52:08 -
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I used to be with it, but then they changed what GÇÿitGÇÖ was, and now what IGÇÖm with isnGÇÖt it. And whatGÇÖs GÇÿitGÇÖ seems weird and scary to me.
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Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you.
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CaCi-A 001Me
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.04.22 02:57:52 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Here you go.A quick google of "eve online kill right scamming" brought this up as one of the top results. not exactly what i meant (more sth like http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Scams_in_Eve ) but i let you have this anyways, since it seems to me that you guys, for the most part anyways, seem to be determined to not want to understand what i mean with "thing" - that i made a discription with added terminology for a very specific way to make money of the killright system, which might result in it getting adopted by others - to keep riding the "i know that practice for a long time, that's not new!" train and to 'agree on everything but what he says'. so i'm sorry i dared to post in the forums trying to make this known and to add to EVE in my little way, i'm sorry all over the place.
however, apparently you have agreed upon the termini kramming and krapping which is sth i guess...
i don't play real life, the balancing sucks!
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Avaelica Kuershin
32
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:10:46 -
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CaCi-A 001Me wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Here you go.A quick google of "eve online kill right scamming" brought this up as one of the top results. not exactly what i meant (more sth like http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Scams_in_Eve ) but i let you have this anyways, since it seems to me that you guys, for the most part anyways, seem to be determined to not want to understand what i mean with "thing" - that i made a discription with added terminology for a very specific way to make money of the killright system, which might result in it getting adopted by others - to keep riding the "i know that practice for a long time, that's not new!" train and to 'agree on everything but what he says'. so i'm sorry i dared to post in the forums trying to make this known and to add to EVE in my little way, i'm sorry all over the place. however, apparently you have agreed upon the termini kramming and krapping which is sth i guess...
As far as I can tell, the only real difference in what you described is that the ship is of a much lower value than the killright , whereas the system I have seen described makes it appear as if the killright will be compensated for by the bounty (and loot) |
Kaely Tanniss
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
346
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Posted - 2015.04.22 06:06:57 -
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Kramming huh...that makes it sound so dirty. I'll never look at kramming the same way again.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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MastaKari
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2015.04.22 06:51:41 -
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Kramming / Krammers do seem to have grown in numbers quite recently other day i was going from Jita to Amarr nearly every system had someone sitting on the gates.
half tempted to do it myself. |
MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:32:38 -
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As others have said, nothing new.
It's just more common now because they finally fixed an ancient bug a few months back. Previously the overview wouldn't show killrights, until you actively clicked on the ship first.
Anyway, speaking as someone who's done plenty of this, it's becoming very hard to get anyone to bite now :-) Everyone knows about it now. |
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