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S3LICI3
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:14:52 -
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i just returned to eve a few months ago after being gone about 5 years. yes, there were suicide gankers and there was danger and it was a lot of fun (that's why i came back). the danger made the game fun, i expected to lose some ships and when i did, no complaint, i put "good fight" or "g/f" in local and a few minutes later i am back in a new ship having fun and its all good. now it is different, not the same game it was 5 years ago. since i came back, i log in on the weekends (my days off work and best time for eve), i check the killboards and what? no point today - why bother to undock? so i log out and do something else on my day off, try again later. seems to be like this all the time now. what has happened to the eve i used to love so much? i used to do allnighters, i couldn't get enough i was logged in as much as i could. now only a few hours a week during slow times, weekends impossible now, .5 and .6 suicide fleets of bored veterans? what happened? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:17:59 -
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Just undock.
You are not likely to be ganked.
So you might find that your perception doesn't match reality and you are going to be ok.
Otherwise, just give UAE your stuff. This feels like a bait post anyway, so your stuff may be much better with UAE.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:20:54 -
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I have no idea what you are talking about.
I play EVE daily, and haven't had much of any trouble.
In the past 6 years I've had one gank, and that was because I made a mistake. I've also been bumped once, but warped-off because I wasn't AFK. I've had zero problems running missions or mining. |
Paranoid Loyd
4875
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:21:17 -
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It's really quite simple, if you don't want to be prey, then don't act like prey.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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S3LICI3
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:21:33 -
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yeah i get what you mean, thanks for that, good comment. i'm not quitting yet so i need my stuff. is UAE your corp? |
Paranoid Loyd
4875
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:24:07 -
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No UAE just has perma dibs on stuff from quitters who post in GD, but apparently you don't need to worry about that.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:26:21 -
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I really can't tell from your post whether you're seeing more or less ganks than you used to.
Who put the goat in there?
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:29:14 -
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Have you thought about what you are doing that would make you a target?
Have you thought about how to avoid being a target? [Other than by not undocking?]
Have you asked others or searched for advice on how to avoid being ganked?
Example, a few of my posts on mining, but generally useful stuff:
How to mine with a bullseye on your back Suicide ganks Need help with starting the game. |
Zealous Miner
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:45:32 -
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If anything all of this violence and danger should make the game more exciting for you.
www.minerbumping.com
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Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:53:52 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:I have no idea what you are talking about. This.
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1546
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Posted - 2015.04.23 00:56:21 -
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Zealous Miner wrote:If anything all of this violence and danger should make the game more exciting for you. That's sort of what he said, and the reason I'm more confused each time I re-read the post between wiping the blood out of my eyes. All I got was "The game used to be fun because of gankers, but now it's not worth playing anymore. What happened to all the gankers?" Considering the buffs to safety and nerfs to ganking in the last 5 years, it fits his timeline.
Who put the goat in there?
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.23 01:41:53 -
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S3LICI3 wrote:i just returned to eve a few months ago after being gone about 5 years. yes, there were suicide gankers and there was danger and it was a lot of fun (that's why i came back). the danger made the game fun, i expected to lose some ships and when i did, no complaint, i put "good fight" or "g/f" in local and a few minutes later i am back in a new ship having fun and its all good. now it is different, not the same game it was 5 years ago. since i came back, i log in on the weekends (my days off work and best time for eve), i check the killboards and what? no point today - why bother to undock? so i log out and do something else on my day off, try again later. seems to be like this all the time now. what has happened to the eve i used to love so much? i used to do allnighters, i couldn't get enough i was logged in as much as i could. now only a few hours a week during slow times, weekends impossible now, .5 and .6 suicide fleets of bored veterans? what happened?
Having gamed back then too, i can tell you suicide ganking was a thing... but rare (a few per weeks).
Now it's a few per days, thanks to some pretty big nerfs to freighters apparently. Back then, no one ever imagined to suicide gank a freighter, and when they did... the freighter usually lived (concord was very quick in dealing with them back then).
Now it's just different, so be smart and don't fly what you can't afford. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.04.23 01:54:39 -
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d0cTeR9 wrote:Now it's a few per days, thanks to some pretty big nerfs to freighters apparently. Back then, no one ever imagined to suicide gank a freighter, and when they did... the freighter usually lived (concord was very quick in dealing with them back then). This is actually completely backwards.
Freighters got an EHP reduction because they now have the ability to fit modules. If you tank a freighter they get more EHP than they used to. CONCORD response times also got faster, not slower and a number of ganking tactics got patched out of the game.
The difference now is that there exists a very organized and very dedicated ganking community. Largely this community was founded out of anger against carebears that repeatedly complained to get ganking and other forms of PVP nerfed, got their way and still don't do anything themselves to avoid ganking.
Freighters still tough, if they're tanked, mining barges have more EHP and CONCORD responds faster and is more effective than it used to be. There's also now no insurance payouts for ships lost while ganking.
Aside from fun a profit people now also gank for ideological reasons. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.04.23 01:56:01 -
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Bait thread, meet adorable baby platypus picture.
Also, your stuff, can.. oh wait.. this has been covered already. Enjoy that pic though.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1379
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Posted - 2015.04.23 02:16:02 -
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Probably another Code alt.
Ganking is more focused and less random. Null Sec coalitions are fewer, larger, more focused and less random High Sec mining corporations are ... well they are what they are ... Worm Hole dwellers are more focused and less random.
Get out there and find a reason for someone to come into conflict with you. Currently, if some tiny gang or solo guy comes near my home systems, I dock up and do something else. Too much entertainment for them and a waste of my time and effort chasing them around. Stomp them like the cockroaches that they are and and they are soon back in another interceptor to repeat the annoying process. NC. blow our SBUs and out we go in a CTA. They gave us a good reason to form up and do something.
So, don't feel entitled to be served up content every minute of the day just because you pay your subscription.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.04.23 02:27:43 -
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I too was once also and therefore began other examples.
Don't get lost alone - Join Signal Cartel, New Eden's premier haven for explorers!
Onward to Thera with Eve Scout
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Otso Bakarti
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.23 04:30:57 -
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UAE must have too much stuff, then. I volunteer to take care of the overage. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.04.23 05:03:58 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:UAE must have too much stuff, then. I volunteer to take care of the overage. In theory, everything in the game belongs to UAE, just that people haven't left yet.
So it's technically impossible for him to have too much and it's technically impossible for him to give it away, since the person he gives it to will eventually leave the game and it's UAEs again.
Even your stuff belongs to him.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.23 06:52:18 -
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I spent a couple hours on the undock of jita 4-4 launching snowballs at the station and causing quite a ruckus from the stations program of fun slaughter by use of massive amounts of defender missiles. And I didn't get ganked. And the activity can be quite annoying to others.
But it is funny cause a lot of people think your being attacked and are amazed when they target you and see you taking no damage. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.04.23 08:10:57 -
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Move out of high sec? There are no High sec suicide squads there.
Technical Support
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20897
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Posted - 2015.04.23 09:36:48 -
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I haven't been suicide ganked in years ...
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.04.23 11:59:53 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: aw, so cuteee |
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous WINMATAR.
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Posted - 2015.04.23 12:07:19 -
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I do miss the hulkageddon events. now it's just Burn Jita.
Critically Preposterous is recruiting! Join the fight!
I am a cat.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.04.23 15:23:10 -
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Liafcipe9000 wrote:I do miss the hulkageddon events. now it's just Burn Jita.
We could just do Burn Hulkageddon so we can come full circle. Use Hulks to suicide gank Catalysts in Jita.
Id watch the **** out of that.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
1004
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Posted - 2015.04.23 15:36:02 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Can... can I have one?
I'm sure the cat wont mind.
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Sointu Luonnotar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.23 15:52:21 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:
The difference now is that there exists a very organized and very dedicated ganking community. Largely this community was founded out of anger against carebears that repeatedly complained to get ganking and other forms of PVP nerfed, got their way and still don't do anything themselves to avoid ganking.
Aside from fun a profit people now also gank for ideological reasons.
Which just goes to show that the self-entitled badasses of EVE get more epicly buttmad than any carebear ever could when their fun is being interrupted or their professions get shafted by patches. |
Joan Miles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:01:44 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Move out of high sec? There are no High sec suicide squads there. +1 This is actually sums it up.
If you are in high sec and you got enough ISK in your cargo or mods you will get ganked at some point. And it makes no difference if you are in a battleship, a frigate or a freighter. It makes no difference if you got 1K or 100K EHP. Why? Because people can gank with so much ease and with no actual consequences atm. So if you stay in high sec you will have to deal with it eventually. Fun or not its here for now.
Some call it an exploit of game mechanics others gankin fun and some pvp for F1 monkeys. Its available to everyone however. Depends where you are looking at it from. Take your pick |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20905
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:13:20 -
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Sointu Luonnotar wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:
The difference now is that there exists a very organized and very dedicated ganking community. Largely this community was founded out of anger against carebears that repeatedly complained to get ganking and other forms of PVP nerfed, got their way and still don't do anything themselves to avoid ganking.
Aside from fun a profit people now also gank for ideological reasons.
Which just goes to show that the self-entitled badasses of EVE get more epicly buttmad than any carebear ever could when their fun is being interrupted or their professions get shafted by patches. They don't cry, wish anyone ill or death.
You seem to think it's fun when other people feel bad or angry.
Look ... we have a hater here.
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1716
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:15:49 -
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I'm clocking at 1 failed attempt and no success gank on me since I started playing.
Solecist Project wrote:I haven't been suicide ganked in years ...
Yeah but you're Sol... |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20905
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Posted - 2015.04.23 16:21:30 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:I'm clocking at 1 failed attempt and no success gank on me since I started playing. Solecist Project wrote:I haven't been suicide ganked in years ... Yeah but you're Sol... *kinks* (:
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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