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xeom
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:03:00 -
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omg blaster pilots are gana have to get in close to do good damage!?!?! and they won't be able to out DPS the tempest at 17-19km.THE OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!
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Posted - 2006.11.02 19:36:00 -
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The tempest outdamages the mega at 17500 km or about.You ussualy wan't to stay at 16-17KM range when fighting a mega.Anything further and its to easy for him to get out of disrupter range.Any closer and its more DPS for him + the risk of web range.
Get over it guys blasters are CLOSE RANGE weapons.Don't be ****ed when you can't hit as far as the medium/lower dps races.
Sorry you won't be able to solowtfpwn everything anymore. ---
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Posted - 2006.11.02 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Way to be bitter. So you think the fact Null is now useless in any situation, but barrage works fine is a good balance?
Hardly useless.You will be able to hit further,sence i beleive void is also getting a range nerf.The only thing now is that you will have a hard time killing mid range ships.
Blaster ships are NOT mid range.They are extreme close range weapons and should not be able to out DPS mid range ships upto 17k only 3k away from disrupter range.
We die if you get a web one us.You die if you don't or can't catch us.Simply put its our only defence.Sorry everythings not the way you wan't it to be. ---
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Posted - 2006.11.02 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: xeom on 02/11/2006 21:13:39
Originally by: LWMaverick you miss the point ffs...
The range is not changed!
Its the tracking god ****it!
You wouldnt even see the difference if it hit you in the face!
Mabye my memory has gone bad.But i believe they reduced both the tracking and range the 1 time i was able to get on the test server.
EDIT:If its got the range reduction i see no need for a tracking nerf.On the other hand if it did not get the range nerf then it badly needs the tracking nerf. ---
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Posted - 2006.11.02 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick I havent been able to get on today, but why would they nerf the tracking, if that isnt the issue.
Try to the see things from another angle from time to time, instead of just screaming "GaZlente NEDDZD teH nuRFZORZ!11oNEtWOBBQ"..
Making null useless, isnt exactly a fix, and telling me to use void, or antimatter instead, is not a fix either.
Null ammo, is not exactly overpowered as it is, but i do think its nice, and i find myself use it often.
If anything we're to be "nerfed", it would be range, and a 50% range reduction is way over the top too.
Making blasters top(max range) at 20km (at absolut falloff), would be semi-fair, but not under either, and saying that its unfair, cause i can still hit, well, hitting in deep falloff isnt exactly very nice, and dosnet result in high damage.
/Mav
Null still has its use's.But just remeber you are a clonse range ship.No reason why you should hit that far.Its not your ships role,its like me asking for my tempest ION-VOID type damage.Just ain't gana happen.I beleive Void is getting a range nerf too.So now it will be like 3-6k for VOID.While Null will allow you to hit out at im guessing about 14K more then double of void.
The role of a blaster ship is close ragne bro.It shouldnt be able to hit far.Thats the whole thing about it.IF you get up close then your opponent is screwed.If not then things are going to get tuff for you.
You shouldn't be able to out DPS my tempest to 17k where i have to run.Or stay out of disrupter range and get screwed over. ---
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xeom
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Posted - 2006.11.02 22:20:00 -
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Quad post......and read my most recent posts...... ---
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Posted - 2006.11.02 23:12:00 -
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And a pest ussualy carrys 5 Med 5 lights Guess who still doing more dps... ---
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Posted - 2006.11.03 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Deitre Cibrus Edited by: Deitre Cibrus on 02/11/2006 23:58:21 I should rethink my t2 large blaster training.
Yep because Void is going to suck now?
Stop crying guys its not of the end of the world.Your CLOSE range ship is not suposed to be mid range. ---
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Posted - 2006.11.03 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Itaro Flagg Ya. Smooth. Close range is 0-20k, meaning EVERY SOLO ENGAGEMENT.
At least you're being upfront in what you want. You're flat out asking to dominate every solo engagement. It seems, sad for you, that CCP has a slight problem with this.
And heck, you even explained in a previous post in this thread, that Null allowed your ship to engage Minmatar BS in their preferred range (right at the edge of disrupter range) when they have effectively utilized all of their strengths (speed/falloff), to counter your superior damage and tank, and Null allowed you to win 99% of these fights.
Of course this is balanced, right? I guess so, as long as you fly Gallente.
QFT
Agian sorry you won't be able to dominate every fight within disrupter range.Its called balanced get with it and use some webber drones and MWD up to the pest and kill him with void.You are a close range ship and should not hit as far as a mid range ship.
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Posted - 2006.11.03 04:53:00 -
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Itaro Flagg - My new hero! ---
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xeom
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Posted - 2006.11.03 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Azerrad InExile
Originally by: Itaro Flagg Well, the nerf isn't just to tracking I believe. I think there is also a small decrease in range and a small decrease in damage.
Hopefully, after calculating in those changes as well, the graph will look a bit better.
Not unless it has changed since these screenshots were made.
I that case it hasn't been nerfed enough range reduction please. ---
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Posted - 2006.11.03 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: LWMaverick
Originally by: xeom Itaro Flagg - My new hero!
Yeah.. u two together, would make a nice team
I never once mentioned that the tracking nerf was needed.But it was stated by others the null needed its range and that it should be able to hit upto 20km.
I don't really understand the tracking nerf.Its not really needed whats needed is a range nerf. ---
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Azerrad InExile
Originally by: Butter Dog AutoPests outdamage megathrons using Null from about 16km outward, which is how it should be.
Graphs say otherwise: Ion Mega vs. 650 Autopest
LOL! 2 damage mods? Well its clear who wins that fight out DPS'ed and tanked.
Yep its so **** balanced \o/ ---
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