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Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel The Asylum.
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Posted - 2015.04.28 22:04:54 -
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ggodhsup wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:ggodhsup wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:No, and no. Thank you for your tears, but do remember on grid links means my link alt goes back to flying a falcon, or a griffin cloaked in a novice, etc.I don't really feel like doing that, but if I trained an alt, I am going to use them, and I don't even use links half of the time, but I think it is so hilarious how much it causes people to complain.
And plex mechanics are great, it allows and incentivizes frigate and dessie PVP, if you want entosis links, just goto nullsec there is no reason to make all of eve the same. dude you have one legit solo kill in all of april.....funny how a guy with a blob thinks links are fine. edit: neutral logi gets suspect, why cant links?....its arguably just as useful, in fact i would take legion links before i would take logi. Oh God, what do? Someone on the forum doesn't like the fact that I am not solo all the time, I blame the NPCs for whoring on all my mails it makes them not legit!! If you consider the 0-15 people I fly with a blob, then my friend you haven't seen a blob. Also, I am not a guy or a dude, and friends OP plz nerf. CCP Plz add matchmaking! Fake Edit: M8 have you looked at your own KB? Your only kill in april has no damage. Post on your main and show you l33t solo skills if you are gonna accuse people of blobbing. all the time?....like never. your off by a fair bit. real solo player killboardEdit: its ok to be an f1 monkey.....some people dont have what it takes to solo legit.
Lol @ 'real solo player killboard'.
On topic: I think giving links an aggression timer is definitely legit to help the problem though. Not suspect, just the weapon timer that prevents gate jumping. |
Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
434
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Posted - 2015.04.28 22:37:19 -
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Agreed with the weapons timer on the Link ships. it just makes all kinds of sense. and these forums are usually so void of sense.
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Nathan Shepert
Garbage and Filth Removal Associates
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Posted - 2015.04.29 10:26:53 -
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Zappity wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Simply because a better fix would be if ships with cloaks and stabs fitted did not register on the plex timer (including ventures and any other hulls bonused for warp strength). True. It was just a bad day. I'll pack two scrams next time and go on another farmer killing spree. But I do want the weapons timer. I can't think of any reason it shouldn't be done.
That's the way to go ! Killing farmers with two scrams is fun.
Also, after two month into FW, I noticed some patterns: 1.) Monday - Wednesday are farmer days. Things start to heat up from Thursday on. 2.) Different areas of FW-Zone have different active times, depending on the country of the locals. An area with mostly Russian locals/visitors will be dead during US TZ prime time.
So, it pays off to visit the same area at different Times.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1041
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Posted - 2015.04.29 13:16:17 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:
Entosis link wouldn't fix it. People would train for the T2 version so they can sit in relative safety from 250km away.
This could trivially be resolved by simply copying the mechanics onto a FW specific entosis link module.
I'm not saying I love the idea of e-links in FW, but there is something uniquely ignorant about that was a particularly ignorant criticism.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
321
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Posted - 2015.04.29 14:25:44 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:
Entosis link wouldn't fix it. People would train for the T2 version so they can sit in relative safety from 250km away.
This could trivially be resolved by simply copying the mechanics onto a FW specific entosis link module. I'm not saying I love the idea of e-links in FW, but there is something uniquely ignorant about that particular criticism. Maybe a bit off-topic, but IMO the Entosis link thing works better the less important the actual Entosis ship is in the whole "holding the grid" game. Otherwise it's about being special (like in PvE) instead of fleets/people shooting at each other. That's why the concept won't work in small scale or solo situation like FW.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Pew Terror
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
217
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Posted - 2015.04.29 21:17:17 -
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What kind of EvE player are you?
[ ] Hates links
[ ] Has links
Would you like to know more? |
Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
440
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Posted - 2015.04.29 23:12:25 -
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Pew Terror wrote:What kind of EvE player are you?
[ ] Hates links
[ ] Has links
Would you like to know more?
[X ] Hates links
[X ] Has links
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Kirobacsi
The Digital Undead
15
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Posted - 2015.04.30 02:29:49 -
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Hello zappity! Been a little while since I've blown you up lol, but for some of the reasons you stated is why, got tired of lowsec and all the bs you listed, I believe stabs shouldn't work in fw plexes to start! |
Jose Maria Cordella
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.04.30 04:57:27 -
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Agreed there should be timers on linked ships. Christ Eve is a game full of people trying to get the upper hand other the other guy. 90% of pilots in this game will not engage unless they think they have the advantage. I fight in black rise and essence and fights are there but you have to be ready to take on linked pilots, being baited, Implants [insert p3n!s joke] insta whacked on dock with sensor boosted Loki station camping and pilots with generally bad hair.
Theres counters to all the above, Jesus by the time CCP finishes nerfing every god dam thing in the game . It'll be powder puffs in space. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
664
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Posted - 2015.04.30 05:25:10 -
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I once tried roaming Black Rise, never again. Every time I jump gate my laptop's GPU goes on a literal stroke and strands me on the gate for 20 seconds without any display while my GPU reboots itself. Same goes for dock/undock. **** sux.
But seriously though, solo roaming has always been a mixed bag. Some days it's a one way golden ticket to awesome town with so many fights win or lose and other days it's drier than a the sahara desert with no fights for hours on end that you'd rather go whelp your ship to an obvious bait and be done with the roam.
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Dato Koppla
Konvict Cartel The Asylum.
812
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Posted - 2015.05.01 03:42:40 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote: Some days it's a one way golden ticket to awesome town with so many fights win or lose and other days it's drier than a the sahara desert with no fights for hours on end that you'd rather go whelp your ship to an obvious bait and be done with the roam.
QFT. The number of times I've welped my ships into obviously unwinnable fights just to see my guns go off is more than I'd like to admit. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
1429
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Posted - 2015.05.01 06:29:05 -
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evomad2 wrote:Links only working on-grid will be perfect when it is eventually deployed. Maybe change it so plex timers only count down if you have no warpstabs fitted because :lore:? Once done, enjoy FW Griffins online I guess.
My plan is to make the 'Jamticore' a 'thing'.
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Plato Forko
Percussive Diplomacy
150
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Posted - 2015.05.01 21:32:09 -
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^ don't forget to fit it with an officer cloak |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
305
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Posted - 2015.05.02 06:02:27 -
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I am, frankly, done with Black Rise for awhile. The last time I went up there for some action I got into a 1v1 Tristan vs merlin then got blobbed by his corpmates including a worm and hookbill. Then I got into a fight with a firetail that turned out be be bait for someone's alt in a Svipul. Then I got de-shipped and podded by an instalocking svipul on a gate. Not gonna subject myself to thay anymore. People don't want fights. They want to undock, press f1, collect killmail, and then redock.
I recently went exploring desolate non FW lowsec in a deimos, I found a newbie corp screwing around with a shitfit rattlesnake, vexor and a couple of miners, slaughtered them all singlehandedly. Don't think I want to go back to Blob Rise. Got some GF's in Amarr FW zone too; alot of people in the caldari zone just need to be deprived of content until they learn to behave like they have souls.
I mean bringing a worm to kill a tristan that's already engaged...really? |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2020
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Posted - 2015.05.02 06:34:04 -
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Yeah, maybe it's time for a move. How is the Min/Amarr zone for neutrals atm? Or maybe I should try FW.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33870
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:04:33 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I am, frankly, done with Black Rise for awhile. The last time I went up there for some action I got into a 1v1 Tristan vs merlin then got blobbed by his corpmates including a worm and hookbill. Then I got into a fight with a firetail that turned out be be bait for someone's alt in a Svipul. Then I got de-shipped and podded by an instalocking svipul on a gate. Not gonna subject myself to thay anymore. People don't want fights. They want to undock, press f1, collect killmail, and then redock.
I recently went exploring desolate non FW lowsec in a deimos, I found a newbie corp screwing around with a shitfit rattlesnake, vexor and a couple of miners, slaughtered them all singlehandedly. Don't think I want to go back to Blob Rise. Got some GF's in Amarr FW zone too; alot of people in the caldari zone just need to be deprived of content until they learn to behave like they have souls.
I mean bringing a worm to kill a tristan that's already engaged...really?
Grrr CalMil.
That's what you get for flying Tristans. Nobody likes to fight them.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
307
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:18:17 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I am, frankly, done with Black Rise for awhile. The last time I went up there for some action I got into a 1v1 Tristan vs merlin then got blobbed by his corpmates including a worm and hookbill. Then I got into a fight with a firetail that turned out be be bait for someone's alt in a Svipul. Then I got de-shipped and podded by an instalocking svipul on a gate. Not gonna subject myself to thay anymore. People don't want fights. They want to undock, press f1, collect killmail, and then redock.
I recently went exploring desolate non FW lowsec in a deimos, I found a newbie corp screwing around with a shitfit rattlesnake, vexor and a couple of miners, slaughtered them all singlehandedly. Don't think I want to go back to Blob Rise. Got some GF's in Amarr FW zone too; alot of people in the caldari zone just need to be deprived of content until they learn to behave like they have souls.
I mean bringing a worm to kill a tristan that's already engaged...really? Grrr CalMil. That's what you get for flying Tristans. Nobody likes to fight them.
I tried to go out in an Atron but insta-svipul had other ideas. Got alpha'd by 280s.
Also trying to solo in people's home system is stupid they will just undock your counter.
More empty parts of FW lowsec are better for getting relatively fair frigate duels.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3843
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:20:21 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I am, frankly, done with Black Rise for awhile. The last time I went up there for some action I got into a 1v1 Tristan vs merlin then got blobbed by his corpmates including a worm and hookbill. Then I got into a fight with a firetail that turned out be be bait for someone's alt in a Svipul. Then I got de-shipped and podded by an instalocking svipul on a gate. Not gonna subject myself to thay anymore. People don't want fights. They want to undock, press f1, collect killmail, and then redock.
I recently went exploring desolate non FW lowsec in a deimos, I found a newbie corp screwing around with a shitfit rattlesnake, vexor and a couple of miners, slaughtered them all singlehandedly. Don't think I want to go back to Blob Rise. Got some GF's in Amarr FW zone too; alot of people in the caldari zone just need to be deprived of content until they learn to behave like they have souls.
I mean bringing a worm to kill a tristan that's already engaged...really? Grrr CalMil. That's what you get for flying Tristans. Nobody likes to fight them. To be fair, I never complain about being 'blobbed'.
Simply because, if a couple of pilots are playing together, it's only natural to have them all try to pile in on every kill, even if it's just a plain t1 frig.
What I do find lame and sad is people staying docked all day in their home system with links all nicely setup and, as Demerius said, undocking in the most powerful ship they can bring (pirate frig to a novice, t3 dessy to a small and so on) just to press F1 on the poor tackled bastard.
It's just silly gameplay that contributes very little to the local PVP community.
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33871
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:31:38 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I tried to go out in an Atron but insta-svipul had other ideas. Got alpha'd by 280s.
Also trying to solo in people's home system is stupid they will just undock your counter.
More empty parts of FW lowsec are better for getting relatively fair frigate duels.
Bring your friends, take their system. They no longer have docking rights.
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:To be fair, I never complain about being 'blobbed'.
Simply because, if a couple of pilots are playing together, it's only natural to have them all try to pile in on every kill, even if it's just a plain t1 frig.
What I do find lame and sad is people staying docked all day in their home system with links all nicely setup and, as Demerius said, undocking in the most powerful ship they can bring (pirate frig to a novice, t3 dessy to a small and so on) just to press F1 on the poor tackled bastard.
It's just silly gameplay that contributes very little to the local PVP community.
Both sides are guilty of this. Well, "guilty". Every person from the opposing faction that quits in disgust is a little victory. Anything is fair, as long as you win. I think his problems is that he doesn't like fleeting, and fleet ops are 90% of the fun in FW.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
308
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:33:20 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I am, frankly, done with Black Rise for awhile. The last time I went up there for some action I got into a 1v1 Tristan vs merlin then got blobbed by his corpmates including a worm and hookbill. Then I got into a fight with a firetail that turned out be be bait for someone's alt in a Svipul. Then I got de-shipped and podded by an instalocking svipul on a gate. Not gonna subject myself to thay anymore. People don't want fights. They want to undock, press f1, collect killmail, and then redock.
I recently went exploring desolate non FW lowsec in a deimos, I found a newbie corp screwing around with a shitfit rattlesnake, vexor and a couple of miners, slaughtered them all singlehandedly. Don't think I want to go back to Blob Rise. Got some GF's in Amarr FW zone too; alot of people in the caldari zone just need to be deprived of content until they learn to behave like they have souls.
I mean bringing a worm to kill a tristan that's already engaged...really? Grrr CalMil. That's what you get for flying Tristans. Nobody likes to fight them. To be fair, I never complain about being 'blobbed'. Simply because, if a couple of pilots are playing together, it's only natural to have them all try to pile in on every kill, even if it's just a plain t1 frig. What I do find lame and sad is people staying docked all day in their home system with links all nicely setup and, as Demerius said, undocking in the most powerful ship they can bring (pirate frig to a novice, t3 dessy to a small and so on) just to press F1 on the poor tackled bastard. It's just silly gameplay that contributes very little to the local PVP community.
Or in a ship specifically fit to counter yours. I stopped flying slicers in certain systems due to an over-abundance of tracking disruptor fit condors.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
308
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Posted - 2015.05.02 07:37:03 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I tried to go out in an Atron but insta-svipul had other ideas. Got alpha'd by 280s.
Also trying to solo in people's home system is stupid they will just undock your counter.
More empty parts of FW lowsec are better for getting relatively fair frigate duels. Bring your friends, take their system. They no longer have docking rights. Gully Alex Foyle wrote:To be fair, I never complain about being 'blobbed'.
Simply because, if a couple of pilots are playing together, it's only natural to have them all try to pile in on every kill, even if it's just a plain t1 frig.
What I do find lame and sad is people staying docked all day in their home system with links all nicely setup and, as Demerius said, undocking in the most powerful ship they can bring (pirate frig to a novice, t3 dessy to a small and so on) just to press F1 on the poor tackled bastard.
It's just silly gameplay that contributes very little to the local PVP community. Both sides are guilty of this. Well, "guilty". Every person from the opposing faction that quits in disgust is a little victory. Anything is fair, as long as you win. I think his problems is that he doesn't like fleeting, and fleet ops are 90% of the fun in FW.
I have been in alot of Galmil fleets. They have some competent FC's and I've got on alot of nice kills. I just don't feel that great a sense of accomplishment from "Oh look some dumbass just jumped his links into our fleet. No one shoot until EVERYONE is on the killmail! Hold the pod, hold the pod, don't kill it yet let everyone...you assholes."
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33871
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Posted - 2015.05.02 08:09:55 -
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I feel like I'm talking to a wall here. Maybe FW is just not for you.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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Mystical Might
V0LTA Triumvirate.
184
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Posted - 2015.05.02 09:51:48 -
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Zappity wrote:Yeah, maybe it's time for a move. How is the Min/Amarr zone for neutrals atm? Or maybe I should try FW.
Great fun come try it!
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Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
109
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Posted - 2015.05.02 11:05:45 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Or in a ship specifically fit to counter yours. I stopped flying slicers in certain systems due to an over-abundance of tracking disruptor fit condors.
well tbh unless he's sporting a scram and or is linked/snaked while you're not, you should have no problem killing it in a slicer (if you're faster, OH and fly to him, gonna hit despite TD, if not faster fly away from him, his missiles gonna fall sort, slingshot into him and blap blap blap. easy as pie)
IT: damn, i haven't been playing in the last couple months (fkn work), but it does sadden me reading this. Hopefully it'll fix itself.
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Silverbackyererse
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
140
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Posted - 2015.05.02 11:28:51 -
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Folks could just ask in local for a 1v1 if that's what they want.
Used to be quite a common thing to see and do - you know - hop in the same fleet, warp to a safe spot and have your space honour duel.
Most people are on the up and up. I've only ever came across a couple of monkey spankers who were not - coincidentally both were in Gallente Militia at the time.
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Plato Forko
Percussive Diplomacy
150
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Posted - 2015.05.02 19:55:43 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:I feel like I'm talking to a wall here.
just a wall? there's more than enough brick-shitters in here to build a whole maze for you.
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Vexta Kurvory
Ashirda
1
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:31:20 -
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It's funny how you people all demand a killboard with kills on it relevant to the topic discussed to have an opinion on the matter.
Anyway, most plex farmers i've met that had stabs on them were toons <1 month old. There's all kinds of people, just gotta hope he wants to fight. You could also just chill in a plex waiting to come to you (gives you an advantage aswell). Or ask for 1v1 at a safe in local.
The link discussion has gone on forever, just don't look for fights in the more busy 'entrance' systems if you want to avoid that more often. |
Stalence
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
45
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Posted - 2015.05.05 15:54:15 -
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I'm supportive of off grid links inheriting an agression time or suspect timer when the ships they are boosting inherit the same (along the lines of neutral logististics getting flagged suspect).
I am wholly against requiring entosis links for FW plexes though. All your're going to do is gimp ships that would otherwise be PVP fit and offer a challenge or require FW players to haul along an alt with one while they defend it themselves.
Also, you want to hunt a target that is stuck in place for 5 minutes... is that really the PVP content you crave?
I suggest you go out with a ship and let the content find you. Solo does not always mean 1v1... more often than not it means 1v3 or 1 v Many... Learn from the masters of the solo craft like Sard Caid. There is plenty of streaming and YouTube content to show you how it's done.
And regarding blobs in home systems... I fully expect my enemy will undock perfect counters to my ship/fleet in their home system and blob me with it if they're able to. Just have to be cognizant of that or search for fights in more contested systems.
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Burtakus
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
32
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Posted - 2015.05.08 01:56:53 -
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I fly with links, I fully support giving the OGB the same flags as the fleet members whether that be suspect, criminal, or weapons timer. If you or your fleet are using links they are supporting you in your actions and should inherit the consequences of your actions.
If you are a solo PvPer then with or without links you are going to get blobbed from time to time, you are going to get cockbagged jumping a gate from time to time, and you are going to come across those that are better linked/implanted/drugged than you from time to time.
LIVE WITH IT.
I hate getting blobbed just as much as the next person and probably get blobbed even more than the average person in Black Rise but it's just a game and it's just pixels. Saddle back up and go find something else to kill. Some of the best fights you will have will start as a 1 v 2-3 and then you end up getting blobbed in the end because you stayed in the fight long enough and killed enough that they had no choice but to blob you.
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Master Sergeant MacRobert
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
201
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Posted - 2015.05.08 12:51:43 -
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Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.
Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).
We need more conflict drivers.
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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