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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2048
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Posted - 2015.05.08 14:57:13 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.
Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).
We need more conflict drivers.
Yes, I agree with this.
Alternative proposal: entosis link can be used by anyone to roll back a timer.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33889
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Posted - 2015.05.08 15:01:40 -
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Entosis link is just a bad idea. Current FW mechanics for taking systems are far better than either of the 0.0 sovereignty iterations.
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
414
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:52:31 -
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Zappity wrote:Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.
Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).
We need more conflict drivers.
Yes, I agree with this. Alternative proposal: entosis link can be used by anyone to roll back a timer.
If you want to control FW plexes join FW simple
BEBOPS ODE TO PERUNGA
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Szerdzso Boloskarl
Vanu Sovereignty. Vanu Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.05.09 02:37:32 -
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Go to nullsec if you want to fight, or hunt them down in fw.
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2051
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Posted - 2015.05.09 03:25:20 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Zappity wrote:Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.
Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).
We need more conflict drivers.
Yes, I agree with this. Alternative proposal: entosis link can be used by anyone to roll back a timer. If you want to control FW plexes join FW simple I don't want to control FW plexes. I want to punish stabbed farmers.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2051
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Posted - 2015.05.09 03:25:55 -
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Szerdzso Boloskarl wrote:Go to nullsec if you want to fight, Wat
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2015.05.11 12:46:23 -
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Welcome to eve PVP, where 10 minutes is spent trying to find a fight only to be blobbed or linked to death. Station hugging, gate hopping, cloak afks, how are you going to fix the game's inherent design?
At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
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13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2015.05.11 12:57:34 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I am, frankly, done with Black Rise for awhile. The last time I went up there for some action I got into a 1v1 Tristan vs merlin then got blobbed by his corpmates including a worm and hookbill. Then I got into a fight with a firetail that turned out be be bait for someone's alt in a Svipul. Then I got de-shipped and podded by an instalocking svipul on a gate. Not gonna subject myself to thay anymore. People don't want fights. They want to undock, press f1, collect killmail, and then redock.
I recently went exploring desolate non FW lowsec in a deimos, I found a newbie corp screwing around with a shitfit rattlesnake, vexor and a couple of miners, slaughtered them all singlehandedly. Don't think I want to go back to Blob Rise. Got some GF's in Amarr FW zone too; alot of people in the caldari zone just need to be deprived of content until they learn to behave like they have souls.
I mean bringing a worm to kill a tristan that's already engaged...really?
Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you want HonorWarsOnline, why are you playing EvE? Maybe its an issue of bad game balance instead? That you cant ship in a setup, and find ways to take advantages that get you a win vs someone else with another setup? You're saying EvE is rock, paper, scissors, but believing the problem is people who choose to play to increase their odds of killing you instead of "fighting fair"? And the problem is those people, not the system?
At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
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13kr1d1
Hedion University Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2015.05.11 13:56:15 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.
Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).
We need more conflict drivers.
then tell CCP to stop buffing the active tank of FW rats to absurd proportions. A newbie kestrel cant kill a small.
At 5 drones of T2, the Tristan is nearly as powerful as the Algos, with a cheaper price tag, better maneuverability and speed, and smaller sig radius to avoid the lazy carebearish T3 station blapping -10s who have no life. Pick tristan for FW.
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Therran Promitz
State Protectorate Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2015.05.11 16:00:41 -
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Don'tt bother chasing after ships known to be farmer fit, cuz they mostl likely are.
Best way to get clean fights and avoid all the scrubby "skilled" PvP is to sit in a plex and let the fights come to you |
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Master Sergeant MacRobert
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
202
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Posted - 2015.05.11 17:15:38 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:Clearing FW plex's is supposed to be possible in a PvP fit ship.
Anything that drives fitting deviation from a PvP setup is a combat suppressant and does not belong in FW (where conflict drivers should be / are king).
We need more conflict drivers.
then tell CCP to stop buffing the active tank of FW rats to absurd proportions. A newbie kestrel cant kill a small.
TLDR: No
.....Newbie kite (low dps) kestrels and other assorted low dps are for novices not smalls. You want to use these ships in larger sizes bring friends.
When and only after they remove the bonus's (or at least reduce them to sensible values) from high tier levels would I then agree to a review of active tank capabilities of NPC's in FW complexes. Frankly, high tiers should give discounts or bonuses that are not directly linked to LP rewards or the LP store.
There is plenty that can be done to improve upon the current flip-flop status quo without removing reason and ambition for taking systems.
"Remedy this situation or you shall live out the rest of your life in a pain amplifier"
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
447
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Posted - 2015.05.11 17:47:53 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote: There is plenty that can be done to improve upon the current flip-flop status quo without removing reason and ambition for taking systems.
Much of it has already been done. The pendulum generally swings much slower now. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3911
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Posted - 2015.05.11 18:28:55 -
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Zappity wrote:I want to punish stabbed farmers. Pro tip: roll an amarr alt with minimum gank-training.
Enter plex with caldari farmer, he rages in local 'let go of my LP', you obliterate his ship while he's still typing (without standing loss).
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
33894
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:00:24 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Zappity wrote:I want to punish stabbed farmers. Pro tip: roll an amarr alt with minimum gank-training. Enter plex with caldari farmer, he rages in local 'let go of my LP', you obliterate his ship while he's still typing (without standing loss).
I usually welcome people to plex together with me. Then again, I don't fit stabs either so...
Why do bad threads happen to good people?
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3911
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Posted - 2015.05.11 19:04:45 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Zappity wrote:I want to punish stabbed farmers. Pro tip: roll an amarr alt with minimum gank-training. Enter plex with caldari farmer, he rages in local 'let go of my LP', you obliterate his ship while he's still typing (without standing loss). I usually welcome people to plex together with me. Then again, I don't fit stabs either so... Indeed, scientific research clearly proved a high correlation between fitting warp corp stabs and being a ****.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Perkin Warbeck
Black Watch Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
198
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Posted - 2015.05.11 21:57:23 -
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FW. Broken since they introduced being able to earn stupid amounts of LP for flying in circles around a button in a stabbed ship.
Nothing will actually fix the problem unless CCP significantly reduce the LP payout for completing plexes. Only then will you lose the farmers. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3915
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Posted - 2015.05.11 22:00:09 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:FW. Broken since they introduced being able to earn stupid amounts of LP for flying in circles around a button in a stabbed ship.
Nothing will actually fix the problem unless CCP significantly reduce the LP payout for completing plexes. Only then will you lose the farmers. I like farmers. They're teaching me russian in local while we play hide & seek.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
2076
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Posted - 2015.05.12 01:57:09 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Zappity wrote:I want to punish stabbed farmers. Pro tip: roll an amarr alt with minimum gank-training. Enter plex with caldari farmer, he rages in local 'let go of my LP', you obliterate his ship while he's still typing (without standing loss). Brb, um, busy with something...
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
1430
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Posted - 2015.05.12 02:53:31 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Indeed, scientific research clearly proved a high correlation between fitting warp corp stabs and being a ****.
You learn something every day.
I didn't know there had been scientific research done on Crosi.
https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1416
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Posted - 2015.05.12 04:53:05 -
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Since i have ibanez posts hidden. can someone tell me if it mentions me like all his others do? |
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
669
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Posted - 2015.05.12 05:03:16 -
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For only 1 bil ISK per post I can third party everyone you have blocked so you know what they said about you through me. I can even filter posts so that it doesn't cause butthurt.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1416
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Posted - 2015.05.12 05:21:30 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:For only 1 bil ISK per post I can third party everyone you have blocked so you know what they said about you through me. I can even filter posts so that it doesn't cause butthurt.
You would do that for just 1 bil per post? |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
351
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Posted - 2015.05.12 19:51:13 -
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13kr1d1 wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I am, frankly, done with Black Rise for awhile. The last time I went up there for some action I got into a 1v1 Tristan vs merlin then got blobbed by his corpmates including a worm and hookbill. Then I got into a fight with a firetail that turned out be be bait for someone's alt in a Svipul. Then I got de-shipped and podded by an instalocking svipul on a gate. Not gonna subject myself to thay anymore. People don't want fights. They want to undock, press f1, collect killmail, and then redock.
I recently went exploring desolate non FW lowsec in a deimos, I found a newbie corp screwing around with a shitfit rattlesnake, vexor and a couple of miners, slaughtered them all singlehandedly. Don't think I want to go back to Blob Rise. Got some GF's in Amarr FW zone too; alot of people in the caldari zone just need to be deprived of content until they learn to behave like they have souls.
I mean bringing a worm to kill a tristan that's already engaged...really? Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you want HonorWarsOnline, why are you playing EvE? Maybe its an issue of bad game balance instead? That you cant ship in a setup, and find ways to take advantages that get you a win vs someone else with another setup? You're saying EvE is rock, paper, scissors, but believing the problem is people who choose to play to increase their odds of killing you instead of "fighting fair"? And the problem is those people, not the system?
Came for the spaceships. Didn't fully understand the game of alts meta or just how many players use it to be competitive, until about 6 months in.
This game would be 10x better with one account per player but that ship has long sailed.
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Perkin Warbeck
Black Watch Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
198
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Posted - 2015.05.12 22:16:30 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Perkin Warbeck wrote:FW. Broken since they introduced being able to earn stupid amounts of LP for flying in circles around a button in a stabbed ship.
Nothing will actually fix the problem unless CCP significantly reduce the LP payout for completing plexes. Only then will you lose the farmers. I like farmers. They're teaching me russian in local while we play hide & seek.
Then you must be the happiest man in low sec . It appears people in the militias want to farm (whether it's on their main or their alts) or at least no one in them wants LP reduced but they also want some mystical thing called a 'good fight'. Well, you can't have both.
If you accept that LP is the driver behind why people farm but don't want to take that driver away then stop complaining about having no good fights. It's like complainong that missioners won't accept your duels in high sec. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Heiian Conglomerate
1431
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Posted - 2015.05.13 03:10:49 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Since i have ibanez posts hidden. can someone tell me if it mentions me like all his others do?
:) - It's ok man - I know you love me and have not really blocked me.
https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
81
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Posted - 2015.05.13 14:06:03 -
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I generally find Amarr/Minmatar area a lot better than Black Rise for the most part. Just steer clear of the routes between the two and explore the backwaters, if you are in anything bigger than a Destroyer.
That said i did have a Moros two shot my Domi last night but that was my own stupid fault for getting bored and taking a fight on a station... |
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