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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2015.04.28 04:33:46 -
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Currently, w-space suffers from a severe lack of conflict generators. So to entice our fellow brethren & future prospective invaders... I suggest that w-space moons get seeded with ore base upon the class of system. Not every moon in the system will receive ore, at most, maybe 2-3 moons per system. A new harvester array built with w-space materials would be used in conjunction with existing silos.
For Example: C1: 2-3 Veldspar & Scordite moons pumping out 1k units per hour. C2: 1 Plag or Pyro in addition to 2 C1 moons. Same units. C3: 1 Omber or Kernite; 2 C2 moons, 3 C1 moons. C4: 1 Hemo or Jaspet or Heb; 1 C3 moon, 2 C2 moons, 2 C1 moons. C5: 1 Spud or Gnies or Dark Orchre moon AND 1 ABC moon; C4 moon composition. C6: 1 Merc moon, 2 ABC, C4 moon comp.
The thirst for PVP & competent targets is very much real. |
Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
433
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Posted - 2015.04.28 04:36:03 -
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Ore is to large and i am to lazy to move it. Pass
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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
90
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Posted - 2015.04.28 04:37:45 -
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Iyokus Patrouette wrote:Ore is to large and i am to lazy to move it. Pass
Compress it you silly goose, or even better, refine it & build ships to PVP with. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.04.28 04:46:55 -
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yes... im sure ALL pvp groups will LOVE to fight over not only pve content but MINING content.... youre not even trying with these trolls anymore, just stop.
There is no Bob.
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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
90
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Posted - 2015.04.28 04:52:52 -
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Jack Miton wrote:yes... im sure ALL pvp groups will LOVE to fight over not only pve content but MINING content.... youre not even trying with these trolls anymore, just stop.
Sadly, this one isn't a troll.
Just to clarify, No space rock laser shooting. The POS array does the harvesting for you. The new passive isk infusion will create demand for w-space systems. You can compress for export or refine & build pvp ships in house, etc etc |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
4408
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Posted - 2015.04.28 05:33:34 -
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yes, because making is is currently SO HARD in wspace....
There is no Bob.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
504
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Posted - 2015.04.28 05:42:00 -
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No
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
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Posted - 2015.04.28 05:47:00 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:No
Marmite scared they'll lose all those mining corps to grief in highsec? This idea might not be so bad after all.
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Winthorp
2903
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Posted - 2015.04.28 07:02:02 -
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This idea is a new low even by your standards Adriana. |
Axloth Okiah
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
642
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Posted - 2015.04.28 07:20:46 -
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no passive, immune income please
W-Space Realtor
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GizzyBoy
Aperture Harmonics K162
106
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Posted - 2015.04.28 07:39:07 -
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Was discussed at ffest, Fozzie checked all the moons in w-space incase there where already tech moons
it was discussed, and decided that having potentially so many more sources of tech, the economy would crash, and bascily all moon goo would be worthless for every one. so you would have very little benefit from having moon mining if thus enabled.
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erg cz
Tribal Core
229
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Posted - 2015.04.28 08:12:59 -
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More pvp in WH? Just uncloack and wait. I was tackled by covert op frigate in less than 10 minutes in C1 wormwhole. Less than 10 minutes after I decloak. So if you need more PvP in wormhole - disable cloacking possibilities at all. Like they are disabled inside FW plexes. But something tells me, that you do not want more PvP. You want more kills, so you can ambush in your cloacked Astero peacefully mining Proteus... ;) If I am wrong - just uncloak and wait. Posting in WH chat also gives you more fight.
Now seriosly: there is a plenty of ORE in belts, why you need them in moons? |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
973
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:30:53 -
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Oh my, infinite Veldspar supplies at POS XD |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1294
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:39:30 -
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Unleash the Veldnaught!!!
Yaay!!!!
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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2015.04.29 04:05:14 -
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Some of you fail to actually realize that it would be the biggest boost to w-space PVP ever.
For Example: Imagine a w-space community full of active SRP {ship replacement program} corps. K-space inhabitants would be vying to move in, thus creating conflict. Every single wormhole system would have people willing to defend it & have the ships to do it.
Most of you are just scared that the way you play and survive the **** w-space system you live in will actually be worth having taken from you. You are scared that your elite pvp {bullshit ganks or arranged fights} will be shown for what it really is. |
Trinity Griffin
Clann Fian
9
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Posted - 2015.04.29 07:02:11 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:Some of you fail to actually realize that it would be the biggest boost to w-space PVP ever.
For Example: Imagine a w-space community full of active SRP {ship replacement program} corps. K-space inhabitants would be vying to move in, thus creating conflict. Every single wormhole system would have people willing to defend it & have the ships to do it.
Most of you are just scared that the way you play and survive the **** w-space system you live in will actually be worth having taken from you. You are scared that your elite pvp {bullshit ganks or arranged fights} will be shown for what it really is.
Or, maybe it's just a **** idea. |
Aladar Dangerface
Zebra Corp The Bastion
158
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Posted - 2015.04.29 09:44:19 -
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An idea that has been thrown around berfore which is similar but better, let people shoot other peoples PI. That would actually increase conflict a little.
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Utari Onzo
13. Enigma Project
212
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Posted - 2015.04.29 09:56:13 -
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Moon mining is what funded the Nullsec power blocs to grow to their current size. Moon mining in w-space would only serve to further entrench the larger wormhole groups as they have better capability at taking, and holding, systems with more valuable moons/most number of minable moons. Yes, unlike nullsec they can't just cyno in on top of their towers, but with numbers/alts and friends they'd be better placed then smaller groups to hold a passive income source, and we all know it's doable to rage roll entrances etc. I don't have an issue if the power blocs did this, it's a natural progression to resources like this, but it wouldn't 'fix' the issue everyone seems to be moaning about.
It'd be a conflict driver for between top boys, rather then increasing conflict from bottom up which is what we need more of IMO
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect
669
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Posted - 2015.05.01 08:58:08 -
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There's already a huge amount of income to be made and fought over in wormhole space...actually THAT might be the problem. Introduce more disparity between income potentials in various wormholes so people compete over them if anything.
If every country in the world had a bunch of oil, nobody would go to war for oil. But since only some do, wars happen over such resource.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
964
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Posted - 2015.05.01 11:33:18 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:There's already a huge amount of income to be made and fought over in wormhole space...actually THAT might be the problem. Introduce more disparity between income potentials in various wormholes so people compete over them if anything.
If every country in the world had a bunch of oil, nobody would go to war for oil. But since only some do, wars happen over such resource.
This would make the R64 wh just like R64 moons. Locked down and controlled by a few.
This whole free stuff will drive conflict is a joke. It doesn't matter what paint job you put on your version of 'free stuff' - It won't 'drive conflict' and it won't 'create content'.
Content is created and conflict is driven by 2 things and only 2 things.
1. FC says "jump jump jump" 2. FC says "go go go"
Conflict and content always follow these things.
This whole isk or valuable bobble schtick is old, worn out and proven to not be true over and over again. Feel free to link me where a wh fight was driven by some isk making thing. Show me a link to where content was created over some isk making thing.
Please, just stop w/ all this 'PVE idea X will cause glorious fights for all' |
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Jez Amatin
Enso Corp Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
68
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Posted - 2015.05.01 12:01:40 -
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Sama guild: quality posting as always. |
Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
458
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Posted - 2015.05.01 13:11:18 -
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I don't know if this is worse than your last idea or not.
Let me elaborate; basically all your ideas involve adding the worst parts of null, the things we literally wanted to get away from, to J-space. Just stop trying to make them more alike. Like I said last time, take your suggestion back to null. We don't want them here. |
Nitris Denitrace
The Desolate Order Brave Collective
63
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Posted - 2015.05.02 03:42:57 -
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Guys I think we need stations in W-Space, it's a really good conflict generator because currently everyone's stuff is spread out throughout 50 towers throughout a system. If CCP allows us to anchor stations then all of our stuff will be consolidated and there will be a much greater threat when invasion occurs.
Also; I think we should start asking CCP to implement CONCORD in W-Space. Right now you can just sort of attack anyone freely and it makes moving through Wormhole chains a nightmare. CONCORD will make the lives of our logibros MUCH easier so the random passerby isn't able to just tackle my freighter and blow me up without a proper response from the local police. It'll also drive conflict because people will warp to a wormhole and try to kill people and be like "Why's my safety not letting me shoot them??"
I really think their could be a lot more content drives in W-Space and I think these are the best first steps.
That went from zero to bittervet real quick
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umnikar
Fishbone Industries
69
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Posted - 2015.05.02 11:03:37 -
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There would be enough conflict if they just get rid of a bunch of systems - same goes for k-space. |
Nitris Denitrace
The Desolate Order Brave Collective
66
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Posted - 2015.05.02 14:11:34 -
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umnikar wrote:There would be enough conflict if they just get rid of a bunch of systems - same goes for k-space.
Nah, we need all those empty, laughably useless C1's
While we're at it let's add holes that you can't live in, have no reason to go to, and 1/4 of them can only have frigates in them.
That went from zero to bittervet real quick
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Kynric
Sky Fighters
302
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Posted - 2015.05.02 15:15:24 -
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Humans by our nature resort to conflict when we meet. The game problem in my opinion is that we just do not meet often enough. More ships in space would be my request. More things to do in space and more time spent there. |
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