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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.08 04:30:00 -
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IM no fan of the T2 lottery system as it is but even i know the problem with the T2 market isnt just with the T2 producers being greedy.
It takes work to make a T2 ship .. alot more than a T1 and there are the Resellers driving the price up to deal with also.
For my money the best way for CCP to enhance the T2 market is to do 2 things.
1 Add invention.. as they are even though it looks to be pain to work.. CCP may make it easyer in time.
2 Shorten the time it takes to make BPCs.. If someone can make a 5 run BPC and sell it on the market for a good profit (close to the profit expected from the built item) to players willing to build them then that could only be a good thing for the average player.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.08 05:20:00 -
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Its a fine line to walk for CCP
Seed to many BPOs and you sink the T1 Market completely as eveyone can get T2 cheeply Seed not enough (as currently) and you endup with a small group of BPO owners or resellers being able to set their price or even completely cut the rest of the population off from access to the T2 items they can make.
The key is to give new builders who will never get a T2 bpo a way to get bpcs. One way is invention comming soon Another is from the BPO owners though hardly profitable for them as far as i can see
Bringing more builders into the T2 market without giving them the unrestriced unlimited access that a Bpo gives would bring the T2 market Back to being an actual market with competition rather than the resellers wet dream it currently is
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.08 05:39:00 -
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zeKzn your point is made i think Further flaming of the OP and excessive use of Quotes probly wont change his point of view and only serves to bump a thread that seems to anoy you to read.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.10 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Xaildaine on 10/11/2006 00:28:03
Originally by: The Chauffeur Originally by: Brooke Prime
When/if tech 3 comes along then fair enough tech 2 becomes the baseline and BPOS should become available on the market. Until then trying to make tech 2 baseline is both absurd and dangerous.
i also agree that tech 2 should never become "baseline", or even all that common, but that doesn't mean it should be unattainable. perhaps CCP has some percentage ratio of T1 vs T2 items they'd like to see in general usage, like 80/20 or 90/10. i really don't know.
I cant find the Dev blog that says it atm but it has been stated by the Devs that all the ships and mods are balaanced at the T2 lvl not at t1
the fact is that to progress in building in this game beyond T1 ships and mods is out of the question for any player who joind after the lotto and dosnt want to GTC RL $ for isk.
Also lets not forget that the fact that ships are sold for %500 above build cost tells us that there are not enough isk sinks in the game.. If you could buy a 10 run T2 BPC from an NPC for a few billion then not only would you be dropping cash out of the game you would also have an achievable goal to aim for.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.10 03:10:00 -
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Quote: This also applies to other T2 BPO's, the reason we see hulks for 500m a piece is because everyone wants them, but only 16 or so are produced every day. The T2 system is broken because of the fact that the population of EVE even becoming larger as well as more people reach the skill requirements for many T2 items. Introducing a supply-limited system to such a market was not very well thought of by CCP, which they probably already realized a long time ago. This has now turned T2 into a luxury ware, and personally I believe that Invention will solve the biggest problem here, the prices on items such as cap II's, HACs etc. will be greatly lowered since the supply of these items will increase by manifold once invention hits TQ.
Currently Hulks cant be invented on Test server
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.10 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: zeKzn
Originally by: Perani I, herebly promise that if I were given a BPO, any BPO, I will never charge more than 100% of the costs it takes to make that item. Let's see how long those ridiculous prices last...
Competition ftw
They'll last forever, because resellers will snap them up so fast you wont have any idea whats going on, and you cant produce enough to flood the market.
We need T2 bpos/bpcs sold on the market as an isk sink for over ritch players (most likely t2 bpo owners already) and to balance the market for the buyer. Also it would provide a good goal for new players/corps who build to shoot for.
Lotto is retarded and not transparent.. im sure CCP are rubbing their ingame friends nuts with this system.. its getting old
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.10 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: Xaildaine on 10/11/2006 04:24:29
Originally by: Kael Hunter
Would you like some cheese to go with your Wine sir?
Would you like a T2 bpo for your 5 reasearch alts sir?
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