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Tani Yih
Minmatar NED-Clan R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.08 08:06:00 -
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Out of curiousity and ignorance...
PvE people are getting new cosmos regions to play with and pvp people get lots of new things to play with, both getting new skills: salvaging for pve as example and leadership and new missiles for pvp to name some.
But for someone who has Exhumers 4, all the ore specific skills and a hulk, what exactly is there for growth in the miners skill track? Or is this the end of the line?
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Oarke
Minmatar Pinnacle Technologies Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.08 08:11:00 -
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Exhumers Lvl 5?
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.08 08:51:00 -
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carrier skills, to move your Hulk?
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Tani Yih
Minmatar NED-Clan R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.08 10:30:00 -
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Ah, silly me. I meant to say level 5 indeed, not level 4.
As for carrier skills ... you know what I mean to say.
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Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.08 11:27:00 -
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mining drone 5, drone interfacing 5 for 100% mining drone yield???
Maybe we'll get the named mining modules and upgrades promised in RMR???
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Tani Yih
Minmatar NED-Clan R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.08 12:09:00 -
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Well, obviously I have those drone skills already.
But the fixes to the implants/modules and its related bonus would be nice. Those bugs have been open for a long time now.
As for new modules ... that's what the topic is about. Is there anything at all in the planning for miners? I have looked at the drawing board, design and such.. but carreer miners are at this point at their end point?
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Paigan
Amarr Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.08 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Paigan on 08/11/2006 12:43:41 If you want a serious skill plan for mining: skill combat.
You make the same or more money in PvE with half the skills compared to a 100% maxed out miner if you know how, taking everything into account. AND you can help your buddies in PvP.
Mining in eve is still in a premature stage, since beta. -- This game is still in beta stage |
Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.08 12:46:00 -
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Hem, I think I will be the bearer of sad news, but look the blog about fleet organization and the successive forum tread. You will need a lot of leadership skills to give the mining foreman bonus. The only good thing is that I have seen some reference to a "capital class" mining ship. Nothing realli definite.
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Tani Yih
Minmatar NED-Clan R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.08 13:22:00 -
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Helping my buddies in PvP is of course wonderful.
So I have my primary account for that. However, that remains beyond this topic.
Leadership skills, while they help mining, are to some extend limited to the gang module and implant which requires a battlecruiser effectively. Foreman 5 is trained of course.
I did catch those vague references about capital mining vessels ... but I see nothing about them on the drawing board, nor any other comment except for insubstansiated rumors on the forums.
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Paigan
Amarr Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.08 17:36:00 -
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i read that comment from a dev, too. whereever it was...
something like "not actual mining ships but something like ..." [some kind of mining support role, can't remember].
But still, the statement was very undefinite. -- This game is still in beta stage |
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Drache Kraaensa
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Posted - 2006.11.09 06:31:00 -
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I believe the Dev mentioning a "capital class mining ship" said it would be like a mobile mat refinery.
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Tani Yih
Minmatar NED-Clan R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.09 08:22:00 -
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Mmm.
A mobile refinery sounds a bit like something akin to the battlecruiser with mining bonus. In fact, it is slightly worse: it doesn't really do anything extra for the miner. The only recourse a miner has is to start specializing into other things.. which I at least find undesireable.
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Amira Silvermist
Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.11.09 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Drache Kraaensa I believe the Dev mentioning a "capital class mining ship" said it would be like a mobile mat refinery.
I thought it was supposed to be some sort of mobile factory... Does anybody know where they mentioned that?
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Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.09 10:50:00 -
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Have not really heard that much about it, only what players think it should be. AFAIK, the olny thing the devs have said is they will consider it, but don;t expect it until at least the expansion after the 3 stage Kali.
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Tani Yih
Minmatar NED-Clan R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.09 12:13:00 -
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Just to be sure. Did -they- say not to even expect it until after Kali 3 or did you add that part, as in your expectations?
If all of this is true then .. I'm about at the end of my mining skill track. There's nothing more to do in that area. Drat.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.09 12:30:00 -
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Gas cloud harvesting? -----
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
Hubbins
Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.09 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Gas cloud harvesting?
Yep
Ice mining?
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Menthal
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.09 19:42:00 -
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Well
there are going to be some mining related riggs: mining drone improvement rigg, but be warned those eat a lot of your cpu and it seems the mining foreman drone coordination link is going to be entered, so the drone side of mining 'll get an improvement
personally i'ld like to see some skills to increase the range of mining lasers, pvp has gotten this for ages, why haven't we miners got that yet? a nice bonus would also be: mining laser stop on roid depletion and ore quant in roids gets quadrupled?
pretty yellow beams
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2006.11.10 01:32:00 -
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Some mobile mining station would be nice. 2-3 strip miner resistance values like the hulk with lvl 4 or 5 and just as tankable some extra hi-slots for 1-2 mining command modules and a really big cargo hold (freighter size) Skills needed should be a combination of capital ship, command ship and exhumer
All in all a really usefull command ship for mining ops.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.10 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Drake Some mobile mining station would be nice. 2-3 strip miner resistance values like the hulk with lvl 4 or 5 and just as tankable some extra hi-slots for 1-2 mining command modules and a really big cargo hold (freighter size) Skills needed should be a combination of capital ship, command ship and exhumer
All in all a really usefull command ship for mining ops.
Im just sick of my Covetor. And the way things are with the Hulk "Market" im not gona be getting one of those any time soon... but thats another thread
Why can us miners get some new T1 ships like eveyone else? Some NPC corp to compete with ORE for the barge market..
Im starting to wish i had never traind mining past 2
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2006.11.10 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xaildaine
Im just sick of my Covetor. And the way things are with the Hulk "Market" im not gona be getting one of those any time soon... but thats another thread
Why can us miners get some new T1 ships like eveyone else? Some NPC corp to compete with ORE for the barge market..
I wouldnt mind some more t1 mining ships but what do you have in mind to make them different from the existing mining ships?
Hulks are pretty expensiv sure but you can earn the isk for them pretty easily in 0.0 mining highend ores (i earned the isk for my hulk in 2 weeks mining bistot). I dont think we need to argue about how usefull the hulk is and the next logical step would be a dedicated mining command ship.
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Effei Gloom
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.10 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Drake Some mobile mining station would be nice. 2-3 strip miner resistance values like the hulk with lvl 4 or 5 and just as tankable some extra hi-slots for 1-2 mining command modules and a really big cargo hold (freighter size) Skills needed should be a combination of capital ship, command ship and exhumer
All in all a really usefull command ship for mining ops.
well, caldari got a bs with 8 turrets as minmatar got one now, useable for mining too.
gas cloud mining is coming soon, but i agree where is the
capital mining ship???
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Jinx Barker
Gallente Federal Bank Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.10 04:00:00 -
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Edited by: Jinx Barker on 10/11/2006 04:01:04 Honestly I was hoping there will be Industrial implants in Kali, my ALT is dying for a set.
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Here is your "Carebear" Implant Set (Please Pay attention to a laughing smiley)
O.R.E. Alpha Primary +3 To Perception. Secondary: 1% Mining Laser Cycle Reduction O.R.E. Beta Primary: +3 To Memory. Secondary: 2% Mining Laser Cycle Reduction O.R.E. Gamma Primary: +3 To Willpower. Secondary: 3% Mining Laser Cycle Reduction O.R.E. Delta Primary: +3 To Intelligence. Secondary: 4% Mining Laser Cycle Reduction O.R.E. Epsilon Primary + 3 To Charisma. Scondary: 5% Mining Laser Cycle Reduction O.R.E.Omega This implant does nothing in and of itself, but when used in conjunction with other O.R.E. implants it will boost their effect.
Primary Effect: 50% bonus to the strength of all O.R.E. implant secondary effects
Slot 7: (Already has an Implant) Michi's Excavation Augmentor (5% Mining Yield) Slot 8: Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Hauler' HX-2 (10% cargo Capacity) Slot 9: Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Runner' HX-2 (25% to Industrial/Transport/Freighter/Mining Barge Agility) Slot 10: (Already has Implants) Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Highwall' HX-2 (5% Mining Yield) Hardwiring - Inherent Implants 'Highwall' HX-1 (3% Mining Yield) Mining Foreman Mindlink Ice Mining Implants
So, above your "Carebear" Set. I dont know about most, but I would get it for my miner. And the "Runner" Implant is most important one, cause it gives a proper "Carebear" in a mining barge/transport/freighter/indy a chance to align and warp the hell out of there... fast.
Copied from: Implant Musings, by yours truly.
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Xaildaine
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Posted - 2006.11.10 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Drake
Originally by: Xaildaine
Im just sick of my Covetor. And the way things are with the Hulk "Market" im not gona be getting one of those any time soon... but thats another thread
Why can us miners get some new T1 ships like eveyone else? Some NPC corp to compete with ORE for the barge market..
I wouldnt mind some more t1 mining ships but what do you have in mind to make them different from the existing mining ships?
Hulks are pretty expensiv sure but you can earn the isk for them pretty easily in 0.0 mining highend ores (i earned the isk for my hulk in 2 weeks mining bistot). I dont think we need to argue about how usefull the hulk is and the next logical step would be a dedicated mining command ship.
My experience with low sec mining was horrible and the 0.0 corps i have tryed to join mostly assume im a spy so... how much trit do i need to mine to get a Hulk again?
Im very new so my ideas probly wont be welcomed and most likely be laughed at but here goes
I was thinking of a new barge One made with the idea of mining in hostile teritory. 3 highslots - 2 capable of taking strips +1 other 3 mids 4 lows
so basicly you Sacrifice your 3rd strip for other slots a fair tank and boni to armour repping or somthing.. I dont know about you but in my barges if a Prat warps in he is gunning for me and all i can do is try and escape. Only a massive amount of support is gona keep my covetor alive and it gets realy old poping so fast.
Or even a light weight mini barge for ninja mining Or a Drone focusd barge..
Anything realy
and yes i could train for mining battle ship but thats the same a saying "we dont need new Minmitar ships.. just train for amar and put autocannons on them."
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Tani Yih
Minmatar NED-Clan R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.10 08:07:00 -
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Gas mining might be interesting indeed! But .. I don't know much about gas mining at all. Do you need new skills (read: what skills) or what can someone tell me about it in general?
As for ice mining ... been there and have that. (but never use it).
I also didn't know yet about those new mining rigs. Are they ideas or do they exist already? I belief you can fit two on a hulk and three on a covetor (being T1).
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Hooty McBoobs
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Posted - 2006.11.10 09:37:00 -
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There are no mining rigs that affect the barge directly :( Only a drone mining one. I agree, the bugs on the Mining foreman mindlink (15% replaces 10% foreman bonus, not additinal)(Mindlink does not stack wth Michi's etc) should be fixed.
I have a dedicated Miner (Exhumers 5, Drone Int 5, 4 days till Mining Drone 5) and another account training the leadership skills, as the corp has other mining chars in it, and this will be helpful to them all; even if it does lose me isk per hour as she will be stuck in a BC/command ship.
Ideas such as being able to fit command modules to barges would be a step in the right direction. Or have an ORE command ship/barge. I dunno, but it seems to truely use the mods/mindlinks, you need to have a char pretty much not mining, which sort of makes any increase under 100% a slap in the face. Might just train the leadership char for barges as well soon :( |
Tani Yih
Minmatar NED-Clan R i s e
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Posted - 2006.11.10 10:07:00 -
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I tried earlier to get a reply from someone with the implants and such to check if the new Kali expansion has finally fixed those stacking fixes on the various combinations of the modules: there are plenty of threats about what is going wrong.
Noone responded.
As for command links on a barge .. that even -sounds- silly. Incidentally, since I do have a battlecruiser with laser optimisation link, you are better off using a second mining ship .. the BC starts to get beneficial at about six barges I think. (of the top of my head).
If only a developer would say they are correcting the bonus to mining -at least-.
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