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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
541
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Posted - 2015.05.15 10:55:14 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Enso Nibbana wrote:Why not strike first? Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Nyx for his trouble? nobody has lost a nyx to drifters
Indeed. I believe he's reffering to that Thanatos class carrier someone (Fatal Ascension, if I recall correctly) lost on the day of the appearance of Drifter battleships in New Eden. Curiosity killing the proverbial cat.
I'd expect a Gallente Militia member to be able to differentiate between a Thanatos and a Nyx.
That aside, Msr. Eglvand is right; the strike has been dealt and there's no going back now.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
456
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Posted - 2015.05.15 11:49:50 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Enso Nibbana wrote:Why not strike first? Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Nyx for his trouble? nobody has lost a nyx to drifters Indeed. I believe he's reffering to that Thanatos class carrier someone (Fatal Ascension, if I recall correctly) lost on the day of the appearance of Drifter battleships in New Eden. Curiosity killing the proverbial cat. I'd expect a Gallente Militia member to be able to differentiate between a Thanatos and a Nyx. That aside, Msr. Eglvand is right; the strike has been dealt and there's no going back now.
I do not participate in fleet battles much and truth be told, the silhouette always confuses me. Which silhouette is the Thanatos and which is the Nyx again?
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Tyrel Toov
Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan
370
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Posted - 2015.05.15 16:55:36 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Leopold Caine wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Enso Nibbana wrote:Why not strike first? Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Nyx for his trouble? nobody has lost a nyx to drifters Indeed. I believe he's reffering to that Thanatos class carrier someone (Fatal Ascension, if I recall correctly) lost on the day of the appearance of Drifter battleships in New Eden. Curiosity killing the proverbial cat. I'd expect a Gallente Militia member to be able to differentiate between a Thanatos and a Nyx. That aside, Msr. Eglvand is right; the strike has been dealt and there's no going back now. I do not participate in fleet battles much and truth be told, the silhouette always confuses me. Which silhouette is the Thanatos and which is the Nyx again? The Nyx is the bigger one.
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Ashlar Maidstone
Moonfyre Science and Research Inc.
180
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Posted - 2015.05.16 04:10:53 -
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Diana Kim wrote:I have been shown elsewhere that Drifters by themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation. Whether I still firm on my belief that there shouldn't be taken actions against Drifters yet and common efforts must be concentrated on defeating both Nation and Federation, latest developments as: - amassing of Drifter fleets in undisclosed location; - theft and autopsy of Drifter corpse by infamous pseudo-"scientists"; - and constant attacks on Drifters from capsuleer vessels signify that the actions must be taken in order to prevent escalation of conflict with Drifters that can lead to the full scale war, that we can't allow ourselves to get entangled with while the Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation hasn't been completely defeated and crushed yet. For this, I PROPOSE: 1. Establish a CONCORD-enforced restriction on firing on Drifter ships. Violators are to be executed (provided they will survive). Named as enemies of the State, humanity, peace, and possible gallente supporters, should they escape, survive or reclone. 2. Pseudo-"scientists", responsible for extraction and autopsy of Drifter corpse are to be held responsible for attack on Yulai. 3. Prohibit these pseudo-"scientists" from approaching both Drifters and Jove installations. Shoot on sight in case of violation. 4. Capsleers, that have collaborated with pseudo-"scientists" and capsuleers that claimed themselves to be such "scientists" and participated in these treacherous acts against drifters are to be publicly executed and their corpses offered to drifters. 5. Warn these capsuleers and revoke their licenses in case the war will outbreak. 6. Prohibit manufacturing and usage of so-called Entosis Links. 7. Announce Antikythera Elements as illegal goods and remove them from all the markets.
Miss KIm, as much as you would like for something of this nature be possible, I am very much assuming that you are just as ignorant of the pressing matters we now have before us. Whatever happened in your past regarding Sansha and the Gallente and others is now history
In all the time I have observed you, you portray a refusal to accept what has happened is now history, and by turning a blind eye to the immediate threats we are faced with, you have refused to even accept the consequences of your attitude and recent acts of aggression thereby warranting your removal from the PPC talks.
I trust that somewhere deep down in that cold harden clone of yours that you would come to terms and accept what is now the present and stop living in the past. The present is waiting for you to accept.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1729
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Posted - 2015.05.16 05:03:00 -
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Ashlar Maidstone wrote: Miss KIm, as much as you would like for something of this nature be possible, I am very much assuming that you are just as ignorant of the pressing matters we now have before us. Whatever happened in your past regarding Sansha and the Gallente and others is now history
In all the time I have observed you, you portray a refusal to accept what has happened is now history...
Ashlar Maidstone
Ignorants are those, who speak about authors instead of the ideas. Besides that telling that whatever sansha and gallente were doing is in PAST is an outrageous ignorance. Tell it to all POWs being tortured the same moment in gallentean camps while you write this, I think they will have a lot more colorful words to say to you about what they think about peoples like you. |
Vladimir Kuvakei
Vera Potentia
3
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Posted - 2015.05.16 05:14:16 -
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Diana Kim wrote: themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation.
Can you please refrain from relating the Nation to the lazy hedonists that live in their so called "federation". Other then that I agree on those suggested policies as long as the drifters remain in their current passive state.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1730
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Posted - 2015.05.16 06:23:25 -
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Vladimir Kuvakei wrote:Diana Kim wrote: themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation. Can you please refrain from relating the Nation to the lazy hedonists that live in their so called "federation". Other then that I agree on those suggested policies as long as the drifters remain in their current passive state. I am terrible sorry for such relation. While so called "lazy hedonists" still occupying our space, killing and torturing our peaceful citizens, I believe that simple dismantling their Federation will be enough to stop their atrocities. Of course, Sansha Nation shouldn't be compared with them, but it doesn't make Sansha Nation less dangerous enemy. Counterwise, Sansha's minions are nothing but ugly monsters with wires instead of brains, they are infestations and perversion of human nature. Unlike the Federation, Sansha Nation shouldn't be simply defeated and disbanded, but must be eradicated everywhere, cleansed from every hiding holes, all their creations turned into dust and scattered on the wind.
Please excuse me again for this misunderstanding.
And thank you for your support. |
Vladimir Kuvakei
Vera Potentia
3
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Posted - 2015.05.16 08:29:40 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Vladimir Kuvakei wrote:Diana Kim wrote: themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation. Can you please refrain from relating the Nation to the lazy hedonists that live in their so called "federation". Other then that I agree on those suggested policies as long as the drifters remain in their current passive state. Counterwise, Sansha's minions are nothing but ugly monsters with wires instead of brains, they are infestations and perversion of human nature.
I am sad to hear such words, I am sure you will change your mind after you have been assimilated under Masters will. You would be surprised how just a few tiny implants can change someone's point of view for the better. Master of course does not want to go on "killing and torturing peaceful citizens" but bring them the great dream of the utopia that is Sansha's Nation.
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Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2015.05.17 11:19:59 -
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Now if just more peoples would fight for peace instead war...
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Anuri Suaraj
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2015.05.17 15:10:18 -
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Luna Hanaya wrote:Now if just more peoples would fight for peace instead war...
It is very alarming that certain individuals promote their interests in killing these Drifters for their "research", that is in fact "money-making", and all they need is just something or someone to farm. When someone speaks against them, they go all in spikes. Yes, Kim might be too violent, but them are just cynic selfish heathens...
Let the God has mercy on their souls.
I concur.
It seems that war and profit are still the main driving forces of New Eden.
I have seen whole groups of capsuleers assault Circadian Seekers for no reason other than to possibly harvest a few grains of kythera.
Heathens indeed. |
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Enso Nibbana
Brahman
2
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Posted - 2015.05.18 08:12:06 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Enso Nibbana wrote:Why not strike first? Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Thanatos for his trouble?
I was referring to the use of overwhelming force. Not an under-tanked capital pilot. |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1153
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Posted - 2015.05.18 08:47:01 -
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Enso Nibbana wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Enso Nibbana wrote:Why not strike first? Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Thanatos for his trouble? I was referring to the use of overwhelming force. Not an under-tanked capital pilot.
How do you know how much force would be 'over-whelming'? We have no idea of the level of forces arrayed against us (if indeed they are arrayed against us and not some common threat that remains as yet unknown) |
Enso Nibbana
Brahman
2
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Posted - 2015.05.18 22:49:06 -
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I know they harvest capsuleer biomass. I'm sure there's a plethora of methods to exploit that. |
Tyrel Toov
Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan
378
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Posted - 2015.05.18 23:17:50 -
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Luna Hanaya wrote:Now if just more peoples would fight for peace instead war... on an unrelated note, this reminds me of a "Orgy in support of virginity" fundraising event I happened across in Luminaire once.... Some of my more charitable contributions were made at that event.
I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
543
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Posted - 2015.05.20 08:45:15 -
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Luna Hanaya wrote:Now if just more peoples would fight for peace instead war...
Most of them believe they are, my dear. That's the core of the problem.
- Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim
Angels are never far...
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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
1075
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Posted - 2015.06.18 08:42:27 -
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Vladimir Kuvakei wrote:Diana Kim wrote: themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation. Can you please refrain from relating the Nation to the lazy hedonists that live in their so called "federation". Other then that I agree on those suggested policies as long as the drifters remain in their current passive state.
I'd currently classify them as a threat, but not an immediate one.
I greatly suspect that even if they desired to remain in a passive state and held no ill-will toward the cluster at large, capsuleers are going to keep on shooting at them until they decide they've had enough.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1218
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Posted - 2015.06.18 08:47:47 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Vladimir Kuvakei wrote:Diana Kim wrote: themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation. Can you please refrain from relating the Nation to the lazy hedonists that live in their so called "federation". Other then that I agree on those suggested policies as long as the drifters remain in their current passive state. I'd currently classify them as a threat, but not an immediate one. I greatly suspect that even if they desired to remain in a passive state and held no ill-will toward the cluster at large, capsuleers are going to keep on shooting at them until they decide they've had enough.
If they had wanted to hit us militarily they would have done so a long time ago and without warning. They certainly would not have popped up and shown us their technological capabilities in piecemeal combat.
I still take issue with the whole 'lazy hedonist' thing. If a hedonist isn't making an effort they really aren't doing it right... |
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
1075
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Posted - 2015.06.18 08:55:00 -
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Some people enjoy doing a lot of nothing. It doesn't take that much effort to drink alcoholic beverages and watch pornographic material. Assuming you have a sufficient amount of ISK, you can pay others to prepare delicious meals, have live performances you enjoy streamed directly to a neural link, or get a good backrub and footrub.
Assuming you still maximize net pleasure, lazy hedonism works.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1218
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Posted - 2015.06.18 10:48:36 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Some people enjoy doing a lot of nothing. It doesn't take that much effort to drink alcoholic beverages and watch pornographic material. Assuming you have a sufficient amount of ISK, you can pay others to prepare delicious meals, have live performances you enjoy streamed directly to a neural link, or get a good backrub and footrub.
Assuming you still maximize net pleasure, lazy hedonism works.
I'm more...hands on... |
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