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Drusus Rensus Gallente Klima Galactic	Posted - 2006.11.12 14:59:00 - [31] Just as someone looking on, I see questionable tactics being used on both sides, but that's war, I guess. Just in a month or so of reading these boards it's become pretty clear to me that you can fully well expect that the other side will do whatever they think is in their best interests that isn't specifically deemed a bannable offence by CCP. So, I don't see how anyone would consider this thread to be news. What interests me more is how the battles can be so completely lop-sided. BoB winning every fight can be explained by them being better at PvP in general, but BoB winning fights where they kill 50 or 60 and lose none can only be explained by them knowing something really fundamental about playing the game (or playing the game with hellacious lag and node crashes) that ASCN hasn't figured out yet. Whatever it is, it must make it suck to be BoB in this war right now. Fleet battles must have all the thrill and challenge of doing a level 1 mission in a battleship.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.12 14:59:00 - [32] Edited by: welsh wizard on 12/11/2006 15:05:31 Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
DrSIn Amarr In The Face Productions	Posted - 2006.11.12 14:59:00 - [33] Originally by: Kryztal LoL WTF ? 1. That freighter from eclipse crashed, not that i feel the need to explain anything it happends expecially when the freighter pilot is running 4 accounts. sure he did...... thats what they all say
Karina Harington Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:01:00 - [34] Originally by: Kryztal That freighter from eclipse crashed Honest, guv!
hantwo S.A.S	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:03:00 - [35] Edited by: hantwo on 12/11/2006 15:04:47 Edited by: hantwo on 12/11/2006 15:04:20 Edited by: hantwo on 12/11/2006 15:03:46 Originally by: Kryztal LoL WTF ? 1. That freighter from eclipse crashed, not that i feel the need to explain anything it happends expecially when the freighter pilot is running 4 accounts. /quote] its amazing the amount of BoB that crash whilst dieing
Mallick Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:04:00 - [36] Yea, that guy from ASCN crashed too. Honest! Support POS Overhaul - Read it NOW!
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:04:00 - [37] Originally by: hantwo Edited by: hantwo on 12/11/2006 15:03:46 Originally by: Kryztal LoL WTF ? 1. That freighter from eclipse crashed, not that i feel the need to explain anything it happends expecially when the freighter pilot is running 4 accounts. Quote: its amazing the amount of BoB that crash whilst dieing They don't lose. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:05:00 - [38] Originally by: Mallick Yea, that guy from ASCN crashed too. Honest! Yes thats why there is a recording of him beeing ordered to log off
Nev Clavain Wise Guys Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:05:00 - [39] Originally by: DrSIn Originally by: Kryztal LoL WTF ? 1. That freighter from eclipse crashed, not that i feel the need to explain anything it happends expecially when the freighter pilot is running 4 accounts. sure he did...... thats what they all say It's true, sometimes you can crash so hard that the client immediately logs you into another char on the same account. Hate it when that happens Sig removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn
Admiral Achura State War Academy	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:05:00 - [40] Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Otellus Originally by: Farjung Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Farjung Originally by: Audrea Nice vid, but I havent noticed the freighter.. care to add the timing index? Perhaps the resolution isnt high enough in this vid :/ The freighter pilot (Shinri Kyo) is located just above the stargate, and disappears at 00:47. So let me get this straight. You spy on our TS. This gives you the information about a freighter being moved. You subsequently prepare a login trap, and when you botch it you act surprised when the freighter logs off and gets away. And then you come on the forums to whine....Riiiiight. It wasn't a log-on trap. We had been waiting in LG-WA9 for you to enter warp across 04T. When you did, we jumped in and warped to your outbound. When you saw local spike, you instructed your freighter pilot to jump through and log off on the other side. Your escort gang then got butchered, but it didn't matter as the freighter had disappeared by that time. You then started screaming about log-on traps instead of perhaps looking at the map. We saw enough BoB in our addressbook login. Stop lying. The OP even practically admits to it. And that picture proves nothing. You can easily make it after the fact when you hear on our TS we are on to your login trap. Nice try. But just another lame tactic in the long list of lame tactics and exploits BoB is using. Ok you and your excuse of alliance are so full of BS. I got pretty much everone in bob in my adress book and I never saw any mass log on last night. But tbh you guys are losing this war so you can say whatever you want but I never thought you guys would sink this low. Is it not BOB that need to spy on teamspeak? that is sinking low imo
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:08:00 - [41] Originally by: Admiral Achura Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Otellus Originally by: Farjung Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Farjung Originally by: Audrea Nice vid, but I havent noticed the freighter.. care to add the timing index? Perhaps the resolution isnt high enough in this vid :/ The freighter pilot (Shinri Kyo) is located just above the stargate, and disappears at 00:47. So let me get this straight. You spy on our TS. This gives you the information about a freighter being moved. You subsequently prepare a login trap, and when you botch it you act surprised when the freighter logs off and gets away. And then you come on the forums to whine....Riiiiight. It wasn't a log-on trap. We had been waiting in LG-WA9 for you to enter warp across 04T. When you did, we jumped in and warped to your outbound. When you saw local spike, you instructed your freighter pilot to jump through and log off on the other side. Your escort gang then got butchered, but it didn't matter as the freighter had disappeared by that time. You then started screaming about log-on traps instead of perhaps looking at the map. We saw enough BoB in our addressbook login. Stop lying. The OP even practically admits to it. And that picture proves nothing. You can easily make it after the fact when you hear on our TS we are on to your login trap. Nice try. But just another lame tactic in the long list of lame tactics and exploits BoB is using. Ok you and your excuse of alliance are so full of BS. I got pretty much everone in bob in my adress book and I never saw any mass log on last night. But tbh you guys are losing this war so you can say whatever you want but I never thought you guys would sink this low. Is it not BOB that need to spy on teamspeak? that is sinking low imo Well ASCN and pretty much every other alliance do it aswell so... It's been a known tactic since 2003 just that ppl will never admit that they do it. You Will Cry My Name
DrSIn Amarr In The Face Productions	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:08:00 - [42] u guys do it and ur moaning about it, plus ur on their ts so i dont see where u can complain.
hantwo S.A.S	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:09:00 - [43] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Mallick Yea, that guy from ASCN crashed too. Honest! Yes thats why there is a recording of him beeing ordered to log off never mind we know ....
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:11:00 - [44] Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:12:00 - [45] Originally by: Lorth Originally by: Fuglife Just a question, is accessing someone elses teamspeak against some sort of cyber law? Like hacking or something? Of course not. They were given access by ASCN themselves. Nor is spying on someone elses TS an out of game attack either. In order for that arguement to work you have to consider TS its self an out of game thing. So both sides are metagaming if you want to look at listening to TS as an out of game attack. What I do find surprising is that someone has the gall to order frieghters to log off, then complain about a log on trap. How low can you stoop? You are getting cause and effect confused. I never complained about the login trap. From fighting AAA we know that lame ass players do stuff like that. I was laughing at BoB for pulling a login trap and then whining about their target logging off. Of course, not that I logged off due to the login trap, nor did I crash. I was just really really tired, so when I made it through the next gate I logged off and went to bed. Normal gameplay, can't tell people when to login or out of the game. I have a right to go to sleep when I want right? And Kryztal, at least Nira Li is honest about BoB logging out freighters to save them, which makes the whining from BoB even more lame.
DrSIn Amarr In The Face Productions	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:13:00 - [46] Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. yeah its a good laugh id agree with u on that. but when u using such tactics u cant really complain that he logged off. All is fair
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:14:00 - [47] Originally by: DrSIn Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. yeah its a good laugh id agree with u on that. but when u using such tactics u cant really complain that he logged off. All is fair Hey I bribed you! You Will Cry My Name
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:15:00 - [48] Originally by: DrSIn Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. yeah its a good laugh id agree with u on that. but when u using such tactics u cant really complain that he logged off. All is fair Im not really complaining though :/ The calling the log off was lame ofc but meh, the OMG BOB USE LOGING TRAPS was *** and thats what im "bitter" about
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:16:00 - [49] Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. If you want the truth, yes I do consider login traps and teamspeak spies lame and bordering on exploits if not exploits outright. And the same goes for exploiting node crashes and yes, even logging out to save freighters. But know this, I fight fire with fire. You pull lame **, and I will pull lame ** right back at you. I didn't start it, and that is enough justification for me. But if BoB fights dirty, and we have plenty of proof of that, then be prepared to be paid back in kind. And the same goes for the lies you spew about our members and our leaders.
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:16:00 - [50] Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. Tell us the story about how BOB killed G alliance, I like hearing that one. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Robet Katrix Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:16:00 - [51] to be fair to both sides, peoplke have been logging freighters off in 0.0 at gates for years. it has been the only way to effectively protect them. thing is people never really associated the logoffski with frieghters because it was not as prevelant now people do. I've seen dozens of freighters log-off, its almost an expected when trying to hunt them.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:18:00 - [52] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. Tell us the story about how BOB killed G alliance, I like hearing that one. Huh ? We have recordings of that !?! Im missing out, and for the record. Its not "killed" G alliance but more like forced them to "evolve" ... Which was BoB,5,ASCN when we used to be all buddies.
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:22:00 - [53] Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 12/11/2006 15:24:22 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. Tell us the story about how BOB killed G alliance, I like hearing that one. Huh ? We have recordings of that !?! Im missing out, and for the record. Its not "killed" G alliance but more like forced them to "evolve" ... Which was BoB,5,ASCN when we used to be all buddies. Maybe you shouldn't use the word "killed" the next time you tell people that wonderful story then. Edit: Dr Sin, pwned all you bobbits in this thread. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:27:00 - [54] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 12/11/2006 15:24:22 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. Tell us the story about how BOB killed G alliance, I like hearing that one. Huh ? We have recordings of that !?! Im missing out, and for the record. Its not "killed" G alliance but more like forced them to "evolve" ... Which was BoB,5,ASCN when we used to be all buddies. Maybe you shouldn't use the word "killed" the next time you tell people that wonderful story then. Edit: Dr Sin, pwned all you bobbits in this thread. I can use whatever words i like :P and the "killed" <<< you see the "", thats sarcasm, you might have missed it in my little story where i was having fun getting people riled up, including ASCN
DrSIn Amarr In The Face Productions	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:29:00 - [55] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 12/11/2006 15:24:22 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. Tell us the story about how BOB killed G alliance, I like hearing that one. Huh ? We have recordings of that !?! Im missing out, and for the record. Its not "killed" G alliance but more like forced them to "evolve" ... Which was BoB,5,ASCN when we used to be all buddies. Maybe you shouldn't use the word "killed" the next time you tell people that wonderful story then. Edit: Dr Sin, pwned all you bobbits in this thread. I can use whatever words i like :P and the "killed" <<< you see the "", thats sarcasm, you might have missed it in my little story where i was having fun getting people riled up, including ASCN i do like stories
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:29:00 - [56] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 12/11/2006 15:24:22 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. Tell us the story about how BOB killed G alliance, I like hearing that one. Huh ? We have recordings of that !?! Im missing out, and for the record. Its not "killed" G alliance but more like forced them to "evolve" ... Which was BoB,5,ASCN when we used to be all buddies. Maybe you shouldn't use the word "killed" the next time you tell people that wonderful story then. Edit: Dr Sin, pwned all you bobbits in this thread. I can use whatever words i like :P and the "killed" <<< you see the "", thats sarcasm, you might have missed it in my little story where i was having fun getting people riled up, including ASCN Yes and if my mic working at the time I would have certainly given you a piece of my mind. Bob killed G pfffttt Bob never log off pfffttt [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:33:00 - [57] Originally by: Robet Katrix to be fair to both sides, peoplke have been logging freighters off in 0.0 at gates for years. it has been the only way to effectively protect them. Nah you just escort them, with a good escort and you shouldn't have any problems. I don't know the numbers, but I would bet lots of isk the BOB have run numourous frieghters through 0.0 while this war has been going on, and not had to log of any of them. But I'm I the only one who has picked up on the hypocricy of ordering your own pilots to log off, then complaining about your opponents doing a log on trap?
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:33:00 - [58] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. If you want the truth, yes I do consider login traps and teamspeak spies lame and bordering on exploits if not exploits outright. And the same goes for exploiting node crashes and yes, even logging out to save freighters. But know this, I fight fire with fire. You pull lame **, and I will pull lame ** right back at you. I didn't start it, and that is enough justification for me. But if BoB fights dirty, and we have plenty of proof of that, then be prepared to be paid back in kind. And the same goes for the lies you spew about our members and our leaders. Deeeeluuusssional, if ASCN wants start doing login traps, log off traps TS spying node crashing and whatever you accuse us off to make yourself feel better. Then go right ahead, if you have PROOF why not petition it and let the GM's deal with it ? Maybe because your PROOF isnt real and all you have is a bunch of crap you make up. Cos ofc your getting your ass handed to you and you cant deal with that in any normal way. Weve gone as far as telling you how we do things to HELP you, but no, Exploits H4x etc is the only that that comes up in your minds. Weve been doing this since BoB was formed. We know what we are doing and how to make the game and its lag etc work for us not against us. Your bums are just a little bit sore as Paragon Soul steadily falls into our hands, but ofc thats not your fault cos we use h4x and exploits
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:38:00 - [59] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 12/11/2006 15:24:22 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: Kryztal Its cute how the TS spying is like a OMG H4x exploit and sinking low etc kinda thing, I look at it like good entertainment. We have great laughs listening to the recordings and sharing it amongst our friends for a laugh as well Does not make any diffrence to our gangs or our fights that ive seen. Tell us the story about how BOB killed G alliance, I like hearing that one. Huh ? We have recordings of that !?! Im missing out, and for the record. Its not "killed" G alliance but more like forced them to "evolve" ... Which was BoB,5,ASCN when we used to be all buddies. Maybe you shouldn't use the word "killed" the next time you tell people that wonderful story then. Edit: Dr Sin, pwned all you bobbits in this thread. I can use whatever words i like :P and the "killed" <<< you see the "", thats sarcasm, you might have missed it in my little story where i was having fun getting people riled up, including ASCN Yes and if my mic working at the time I would have certainly given you a piece of my mind. Bob killed G pfffttt Bob never log off pfffttt I wish you had cos unless my memory fails me nobody took the bite on that one so i turned my "abuse" back onto ASCN !
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.12 15:39:00 - [60] Originally by: Malachon Draco I didn't start it, and that is enough justification for me. But if BoB fights dirty, and we have plenty of proof of that, then be prepared to be paid back in kind. And the same goes for the lies you spew about our members and our leaders. Good. Bring the proof. Show me where we exploited even one single time and we can talk. Show me where we lied about your leadership. Come up with one single example of BoB being "lame" apart from the TS spying that we in all honesty could discuss to kingdom come but which imo can only be seen as fair part of the gameplay. Come on. Bring it. Don't be as lame and childish as the Cyvok's and Mccreedies of this world that will spout their nonsense "in private" to cover up the fact that they've been one single constant failure since this war began. And especially don't be another of those tinfoil hat fanboys spouting crap without ever, EVER, backing their **** up ingame or with any form of proof. As long as we are kicking the crap out of your petty paperweight alliance on a day to day basis you can spout excuses and unfounded accusations as much as you want, but you'll only be making your own future worse by doing it. You poor gullible nubs. This war is still not even half of what we could handle. We are slowly but surely removing your alliance from it's claimed space and we're doing it with one finger in our nose. Instead of repeating the delusions spouted by some of the biggest wartime leadership disappointments in Eve history, I suggest you come out and do something about that. Old blog

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