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Vaeldan Athargan
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Posted - 2006.11.14 04:39:00 -
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Honestly, don't care how it turns out. WWGS will never get any more business from me or my gaming groups. The discussion on Slashdot says it best. WWGS' online reputation for dealing with their players and consumers leaves a screaming chasm between those players and any recognizable version of the word "satisfaction". This is the company that tried it's ****edest to shut down the games that made it what it was.
I'll continue to play Eve. But I predict that Eve will carry this new MMO, which will crash and burn due to unplayability and poor customer service from the WWGS side of things.
The moment any race or theme from any WWGS product becomes canon in Eve, I am outta here. There is no call for it.
My vote in WWGS' hand in Eve: No Confidence.
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Jubeli
Caldari Joint Espionage and Defence Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.14 12:13:00 -
[92]
I truly welcome this. Two of the best game producing companies joining forces should be a wicked match and also give CCP on Iceland to focus more on EVE Online without too much thinking about the CCG and store stuff \o/
WoD MMORPG.. well.. NICE! So if I ever want a break from EVE in 3 years I might look into that :P
Good luck to CCP and WW!
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.14 14:19:00 -
[93]
Awesome news, and congratz guys. Now, can I have a job? ----------------------
[FTEK] Pwning Eve Carebear Style |
Ar3s
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Posted - 2006.11.14 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ar3s on 14/11/2006 16:16:20 This is will be remembered as "Black Sunday".
Its sounds all "smiles and drinks" but in reality with mergers you always giveup "some" part of your ability to control.
I fully understand a business partnership with White Wolf to release commercial products, playing cards, models etc etc which would benefit the Eve community but a merger between these two companies will only led to a negative impact to the Eve community.
More developes doesn't mean better quality, your new workforce may not have ever played Eve. Will they be a passionate about this community and product or will it be just "another job".How long before funds are re-alloacted to other projects when other departments within the "new merger" struggle and fail to hit target. More "fat controllers" how long before the "none" EVE management starts to make "business decision" which impacts Eve Online and the community.
This merger is nothing more than a self inflicated virus, it will spread and destory.
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Scorpyn
Caldari The Patriot Pact
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Posted - 2006.11.14 16:31:00 -
[95]
Interesting move. Good luck, I'm sure the results from the teamwork will be quite awesome.
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Lester Dean
Gallente Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.14 17:28:00 -
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This is amazing, after speaking with ccp and white wolf at fanfest im fully confident this is gonna be a great addition to Eve
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Yilan Cheran
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.14 18:33:00 -
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Wow... never thought I'd ever be exited about a merger of companies... but White Wolf rocks, CCP rocks, so this would be... erm, lots of rocks?
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Yilan Cheran
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.14 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Yilan Cheran on 14/11/2006 18:34:11 (double)
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JForce
The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.11.14 20:18:00 -
[99]
Serious Question Time:
Whilst I can understand completely the synergies between WW and CCP from an IP point of view, one thing bothers me (well 2 things).
1)What's the new company going to be called?
2)(and more importantly) Station Environments, full-body avatars etc. Essentially being developed to allow for the WoD MMORP.
Well doesn't that kind of suck? To use Eve as a test-bed for a new game, without making the new features useful?
There's no doubt that this will utilise Eve peeps...they know the game, how to code it etc. Yet instead of concentrating on the dozens of other things that need fixing and/or introducing, you're effectively putting effort into...well, "fluff". And why? Not because it opens up new exciting gameplay, or enhances the existing Eve mechanics. Because it means that the WoD game can be cool.
I know it might sound negative, but I hope you see what I'm asking etc. I love Eve and as such get quite protective of it, especially when we've all seen mergers in the gaming industry cause the death of so many games that people loved.
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senz
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.14 21:20:00 -
[100]
Edited by: senz on 14/11/2006 21:19:58 not sure if should say "weee!"...
but i played lots of vampire and mage in my youth and it was one of the better thought out fictional rpg worlds. so there might come synergy with it.
and the people saying "look what happened with troika", their last vampire game was awesome it just wasnt that much accepted by the market, but in my view one of the best rpg's in the last years.
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Tab1tha
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Posted - 2006.11.14 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ar3s Edited by: Ar3s on 14/11/2006 16:16:20 This is will be remembered as "Black Sunday".
Its sounds all "smiles and drinks" but in reality with mergers you always giveup "some" part of your ability to control.
I fully understand a business partnership with White Wolf to release commercial products, playing cards, models etc etc which would benefit the Eve community but a merger between these two companies will only led to a negative impact to the Eve community.
More developes doesn't mean better quality, your new workforce may not have ever played Eve. Will they be a passionate about this community and product or will it be just "another job".How long before funds are re-alloacted to other projects when other departments within the "new merger" struggle and fail to hit target. More "fat controllers" how long before the "none" EVE management starts to make "business decision" which impacts Eve Online and the community.
This merger is nothing more than a self inflicated virus, it will spread and destory.
You talk as if they are two huge companies ... white wolf is pretty tiny. and CCP isnt exactly a corporate giant.
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Mr Ninjaface
Minmatar Shurekin INC
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:09:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Ar3s Edited by: Ar3s on 14/11/2006 16:16:20 This is will be remembered as "Black Sunday".
Its sounds all "smiles and drinks" but in reality with mergers you always giveup "some" part of your ability to control.
I fully understand a business partnership with White Wolf to release commercial products, playing cards, models etc etc which would benefit the Eve community but a merger between these two companies will only led to a negative impact to the Eve community.
More developes doesn't mean better quality, your new workforce may not have ever played Eve. Will they be a passionate about this community and product or will it be just "another job".How long before funds are re-alloacted to other projects when other departments within the "new merger" struggle and fail to hit target. More "fat controllers" how long before the "none" EVE management starts to make "business decision" which impacts Eve Online and the community.
This merger is nothing more than a self inflicated virus, it will spread and destory.
1 white wolf wont be doing codeing they are writing stroy line etc. 2 a lot of people at whitewolf play eve online. 3 this isnt a huge merger 4 your too negitive
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Keopa
Caldari The Tierijev Compact Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:43:00 -
[103]
Hello, I'm a Vampire: the Maquerade fan. Is it too soon to have a forum for asking questions about the new White Wolf MMO?
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Mr Ninjaface
Minmatar Shurekin INC
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Keopa Hello, I'm a Vampire: the Maquerade fan. Is it too soon to have a forum for asking questions about the new White Wolf MMO?
more than likely yes but its really not up to me now is it MY thoughts on Kali |
Keopa
Caldari The Tierijev Compact Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:07:00 -
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Make it happen Mr Ninjaface!
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Cygnet Lythanea
Ninjitsu Heavy Industries Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.15 06:54:00 -
[106]
Someone called for Ninjas???
The reason I say that White Wolf is a dog (pun intended) is that thier latest batch of gameing matieral has, IMHO, sucked. This is not the same company that gave us V:tM anymore. I read Promethean and nearly puked in my suit.
If you want my opinon on a company you should look at buying, CCP, look to buy Games Workshop, if you have that much cash burning a hole in your pocket, and give us Warhammer 40k Online. I know that my voice is one lost in the babble of this forum, but I know a good deal from a bad one. You couldn't get me to buy WW if I had the money and NEEDED to spend it.
She's hunting you, pirate scum...
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Grismar
Gallente Vertigo Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:15:00 -
[107]
Shame on posting in the wrong forum, this isn't about EVE, it's about CCP and White Wolf and what that might mean for EVE in the long run.
Ofcourse I'm just defending my post in the Out of Pod experience forum.
Greetings, Grismar.
Your EVE IGB home: EVE Wiki, Explorer, Navigator |
Grismar
Gallente Vertigo Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:18:00 -
[108]
On a side note, did you know White Wolf also publishes tabletop RPG material (d20) for the World of Warcraft universe? I wonder what will happen to that now that CCP has taken contr... erm... merged with White Wolf :).
Greetings, Grismar.
Your EVE IGB home: EVE Wiki, Explorer, Navigator |
Ysolde Xen
Minmatar Liberal Trading Co Electus Matari
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Posted - 2006.11.15 15:45:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Grismar On a side note, did you know White Wolf also publishes tabletop RPG material (d20) for the World of Warcraft universe? I wonder what will happen to that now that CCP has taken contr... erm... merged with White Wolf :).
Shhhhhhh!!!
No one's supposed to notice CCP sneaking around up behind WoW's cohorts with a large rock
I just pray to the gods of all that is right and holy that the EVE TT RPG is NOT going to be D20. Can you imagine EVE setting and characters with levels?
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Araxmas
Caldari Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.15 16:22:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Ysolde Xen
Originally by: Grismar On a side note, did you know White Wolf also publishes tabletop RPG material (d20) for the World of Warcraft universe? I wonder what will happen to that now that CCP has taken contr... erm... merged with White Wolf :).
Shhhhhhh!!!
No one's supposed to notice CCP sneaking around up behind WoW's cohorts with a large rock
I just pray to the gods of all that is right and holy that the EVE TT RPG is NOT going to be D20. Can you imagine EVE setting and characters with levels?
Levels?... No, Noo, NOOOOOOOOOOOO *jumps off bridge* --------
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Bagehi
Caldari BFG Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:41:00 -
[111]
I'm just hoping that with CCP and White Wolf merging. Some of those WW guys might give CCP some hints on more skills to add that make use of all these charisma points :-S
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Manus Ghostface
Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.11.15 21:59:00 -
[112]
Agreed, the last thing the world needs is another d20 game. I would expect a modified WW system.
That city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick. - Lycurgus |
StarMartyr
Gallente Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.11.15 23:45:00 -
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I'd like to see a skill/time based RPG developed for EVE: TableTop. As much as I enjoy the d20 system I've always felt that levels and XP were a poor way to design a RPG. I always loved the MAGE magic system but never got around to porting it into a d20 format. (I never cared much for the Vancian magic system) Hmmm....maybe nows a good time to start developement on a skill/time based table-top rpg.
I think having a group of experienced dedicated designers and writers working on EVE's background and history is a great idea and I can't wait for some EVE related fiction; or even better EVE graphic novels! Yea, we have EVE fiction now but it's sporadic at best. Oh yea, did I mention EVE GRAPHIC NOVELS!
I can't wait to play a MAGE in the World of Darkness mmo when it does come out. EVE is my first MMO and I'll play until the servers die or they pull a SOE on us. I treat DDO like a weekly DnD game and EVE like a part-time job; I don't see that changing anytime soon.
PEACE, Etc.
STAR
================================================== Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that. -George Carlin (1937 - )
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2006.11.16 17:25:00 -
[114]
### The Rant Part ### (Mods will remove this)
There's going to be comics!! I wonder how they will draw:
Lag, Node Crashes, POS Spamming, Log on traps, Plex farming,
And also, nice to see your going to be using EvE as a testing bed for more MMO's! just add the code to eve guys after all it's not like the current client is working perfectly or even 50% correct.
### (End of Rant) ###
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dennyreborn
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Posted - 2006.11.16 19:47:00 -
[115]
Adding white wolf means that there will be vampires and werewolves in the station and planets for us to fight. woot. I call dibs on being a technocrat.
LoL this is a good merger to be honest.
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.16 19:58:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Grismar On a side note, did you know White Wolf also publishes tabletop RPG material (d20) for the World of Warcraft universe? I wonder what will happen to that now that CCP has taken contr... erm... merged with White Wolf :).
Greetings, Grismar.
Let's hope they develop a natural phenomina for the game called "Orbital Bombardment" which completely destroys the game and forces players to go play some other game (like eve.)
On second thought, would we want WoW players?
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.11.16 20:26:00 -
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Hi folks, sorry for taking so long to look at this thread since my last post. I left Iceland earlier in the week and am now back in Southern California for Gencon.
Some answers to some of the questions: CCP and White Wolf will retain their corporate identities. CCP Games and White Wolf will remain such.
Walking in stations (aka Ambulation) is the result of a request from some of the EVE community. Needless to say, the RP potential will be tremendous. It is serendipitous the technology should be able to migrate over to a future MMOG. Please keep in mind that any future title is at least 3 years from release, no coding has been done at this point, only design documents.
The White Wolf staff will provide background and story for EVE, but not be involved in any coding. Nor should there be any concern about the integration of WoD or Exalted stories into EVE, just as there won't be any attempts to write EVE backstory into WoD.
More from Gencon later.
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Skyy
Caldari Veni-Vidi-Vici
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Posted - 2006.11.16 20:42:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Skyy on 16/11/2006 20:41:58
Originally by: kieron Hi folks, sorry for taking so long to look at this thread since my last post. I left Iceland earlier in the week and am now back in Southern California for Gencon.
Some answers to some of the questions: CCP and White Wolf will retain their corporate identities. CCP Games and White Wolf will remain such.
Walking in stations (aka Ambulation) is the result of a request from some of the EVE community. Needless to say, the RP potential will be tremendous. It is serendipitous the technology should be able to migrate over to a future MMOG. Please keep in mind that any future title is at least 3 years from release, no coding has been done at this point, only design documents.
The White Wolf staff will provide background and story for EVE, but not be involved in any coding. Nor should there be any concern about the integration of WoD or Exalted stories into EVE, just as there won't be any attempts to write EVE backstory into WoD.
More from Gencon later.
Great to have you back.. now we can look forward to more active posts! I'm so happy! Perhaps we can tend to some other issues that have been left silent for some time. But, no rush... up to you boss. ======= -Value your character... not a bpo. -Campaigning to make all t2 bpos limited time production licenses. -Karl Chroimcer misuses his power
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Red Horseman
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:46:00 -
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I've been looking forward to seeing another CCP release since I started playing Eve. I just hope that you don't pull an EA Games and scrap or neglect Eve for some crappy online vampire game.
Actually, I hope the new game is a huge success. Maybe it will siphon off some of the Eve playerbase and the game won't be so **** crowded.
As for me, I think I'll stick with Eve until there's a better game where I can fly around in space in monstrous death-dealing ships collecting corpses, booze, and strippers.
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Sharkbait
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:23:00 -
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hi peeps.
going to be honest and admit i haven't read this forum, been really busy as you know. all i want to say is that i have drank with the whitewolf guys alot. they are alot like use and i thing this is going to be a good think for both companys and for the people who support us. i welcome the change and look forward to the drin.....future.
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