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Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.27 18:26:33 -
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I saw some devblogs stating Tengu got nerfed, Ishtar got nerfed, Sentries got nerfed.
So what is a good training strategy for a new character? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.27 18:28:23 -
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Tengu, ishtar and sentry domi...
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Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.27 18:44:48 -
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Okay thanks baltec1 |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.27 19:25:22 -
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I did a quick search but couldn't find it. Is there a link to the thread? |
Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
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Posted - 2015.05.28 01:41:36 -
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Gallente master race, it won't matter how hard any nerf bats hit, the Gallente will still have a superior number of hulls. Train Gallente now, Have happy fun Gallente master race times with me later \o/
---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----
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Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.28 16:10:58 -
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The current ship meta goes beyond just the flavor of the month.
A rough breakdown of the metas is this:
Shields - Designed to boast higher self rep ability with faster cycles, immediete reps, shield boost amplifiers, and active hardeners. Very reliant on Cap and drastically increases signature radius but has no effect on speed. Best for: -PVE Ships / Incursions -Kiting Ships (See Below) -Active burst tank setups -Mining ships -Passive setups ( Passive tanking tengu for example )
Armor - Designed to boast the maximum possible raw EHP and effective buffer tank. Armor has passive hadeners that are very effective and does not increase signature radius, instead slows a ship down and reduces its mobility and benefits from propulsion. Best For: - PVP Ships ( not to say shield ships will never win ) - Prolonged engagements - Heavy tackle - Fleet setups - Capital Ships ( generally speaking this is due to armor caps supporting armor ships to keep in the meta and allow staying power in TIDI ) - Brawler setups
Brawling - Get up close and handle business, favors blasters/rockets/pulse lasers/ and autocannons Best With: - Assault frigates - Heavy assault cruisers - Cruisers - Battleships - Tactical Destroyers - Some T3 setups - Battlecruisers - Suicide Ganking - Dreadnoughts
Kiting - Keep the enemy at range, keep them locked down with a warp disruptor or bonused warp scrambler. Maintain high speed and low signature radius for optimal results. Best with: - Interceptors - Garmurs - Some T3 setups - Many Cruisers including drone and HAC's - Drone Fleets ( Except Domi/Battleship fleets ) - Tactical Destroyers
Now this is just a rough breakdown of the basic game-play styles available, generally its best to find out what you like best, then skill into it, then refine your tactics. Training into multiple sects is a good idea as well as it makes you harder to nerf outright ( say you train just ishtar and it gets nerfed, your left with a worse ship and no fallback ) but it does take a lot of time.
Hope this helps a bit.
Theory-Crafter, Free Agent, Immortal Space Pirate. Generally Crazy and difficult to understand at times.
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Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2015.05.30 08:23:35 -
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a pure breakdown of the current meta
ishtars still pretty OP Domis same
Tengus are op against anything not ishtars
Proteus/legion/loki fleet pretty good
Ravens are worse the cruise typhoons(i will let you theory craft why)
Rattlesnake fleets are super cheap since the imperium farms them at will.
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Gh0stBust3rs
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2015.05.30 08:25:22 -
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Christopher Mabata wrote:The current ship meta goes beyond just the flavor of the month.
A rough breakdown of the metas is this:
Stufft.
The current meta has been the same meta for about 2 years now with no real signs of it going away. Domis and ishtars and tengus, |
Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.30 14:11:31 -
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Thanks for all your replies, guys. Think I'll train an Enyo. |
Aisha Shimaya
Pragmatic Kernel That Escalated Quickly.
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Posted - 2015.05.30 16:17:37 -
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Portiko wrote:Thanks for all your replies, guys. Think I'll train an Enyo. Bad idea, train for one of the T3 destroyers instead. Svipul or soon to be released Jackdaw preferably. |
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Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.30 16:19:55 -
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Aisha Shimaya wrote:Portiko wrote:Thanks for all your replies, guys. Think I'll train an Enyo. Bad idea, train for one of the T3 destroyers instead. Svipul or soon to be released Jackdaw preferably.
The enyo is a time tested ship, it works well and does its ji=ob admirably, its a good place to start before plunging headlong into more complex ships like Tactical Destroyers
Theory-Crafter, Free Agent, Immortal Space Pirate. Generally Crazy and difficult to understand at times.
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Aisha Shimaya
Pragmatic Kernel That Escalated Quickly.
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Posted - 2015.05.30 17:21:34 -
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Christopher Mabata wrote:Aisha Shimaya wrote:Portiko wrote:Thanks for all your replies, guys. Think I'll train an Enyo. Bad idea, train for one of the T3 destroyers instead. Svipul or soon to be released Jackdaw preferably. The enyo is a time tested ship, it works well and does its ji=ob admirably, its a good place to start before plunging headlong into more complex ships like Tactical Destroyers But the tactical destroyers do everything better for just a litte bit more isk. |
Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.30 17:29:09 -
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How good are the tactical destroyers? What about Recons for solo PvP? |
Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
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Posted - 2015.05.30 17:39:40 -
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Portiko wrote:How good are the tactical destroyers? What about Recons for solo PvP?
The tactical destroyers are very respectable, but more skill intense than frigates or assault frigates
And recons are not something usually used to solo with 2 exceptions being the curse and pilgrim. And thats because of all the recons they boast the highest tank, highest DPS, and they have nuetralizer bonuses. I use a rook for solo PVP but its touch and go, theres a good chance i die if i fail a jam more than once.
Theory-Crafter, Free Agent, Immortal Space Pirate. Generally Crazy and difficult to understand at times.
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Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.30 17:43:53 -
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I'll look into curse and pilgrim too, thanks. |
Aisha Shimaya
Pragmatic Kernel That Escalated Quickly.
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Posted - 2015.05.30 18:17:36 -
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Portiko wrote:How good are the tactical destroyers? What about Recons for solo PvP? Tactical destroyer are extremely good. They completely outperform Assault Frigates in my opinion.
Svipuls are everywere, good tank, good speed, good dps, what's not to like ? |
Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.05.30 18:50:31 -
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They look extremely powerful in EFT |
Hellois Dawn
The Outlet
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Posted - 2015.05.30 22:50:04 -
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In Nullsec
Apart from groups of people who live locally all you see is
tengus
SOE frigates
interceptors.
A few Svipul for a bit before they were nerfed. less now
Ishtars are around but only in alliances. Drone damage means no need to restock on the ammo |
Verdis deMosays
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.06.03 17:40:27 -
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If you like being constrained by meta gaming, then stay in k-space and fly the same ships for years. Tengu, Dominix, Ishtar is okay, but I prefer the wormhole meta: fly what you want. It truly is a liberating experience to not be shoehorned into a hull type.
So pray to Bob, train covops V, and then jump into whatever is useful for that fleet. Armor logi? I'll bring a Proteus. Hole control, let me grab my 1200 DPS tanked Onyx. Blowing up some random dude? Can I bring a drake? Yes, you can bring a drake. Really.
Free your mind of metas, free your bank of red, and fly what you want to fly.
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Portiko
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.03 18:02:59 -
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Can I join your corp?
Never not fly what you can't afford to lose.
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