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b1ue thunder
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:17:00 -
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I've heard getting away from Concord is considered an exploit and you can get in trouble for it, so I won't go into much details. This is a 14 day trial account, not the one I evaded Concord on.
To summarize the situation, I managed to attack someone in high-sec space (0.5 system), destroy their ship, and get away. 15 minutes of frantically running around the system, Concord stopped chasing me and I was left with an intact ship (albeit with 0% shields, 0% armour, and 19% hull. It was a close call, but I still did manage to get the kill and run from the law.
What do I do now? I'd rather not get banned for this little event. I also don't want to tell people how to do it or else high-sec griefing will take on a whole new face.
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:19:00 -
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Hope they don't trace your IP from your forum post and connecting to Eve, and ban you.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: b1ue thunder What do I do now?
You hope your ISP is AOL.
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:20:00 -
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now u should come onto the forums and admit it, let ccp trace ur account info and compare to find ur true account and ban it
but in all seriousness you should have stayed there and let them kill you and you know it. you cheated at eve. congratulations.
DE
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b1ue thunder
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:22:00 -
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:( I came here to make things right, not get in trouble. I could've not said anything and exploited this in the future, but I'd rather help CCP out.
I sincerely hope they don't take away my account.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:22:00 -
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I remember when you were allowed to run from CONCORD.
Thank god it isn't an exploit to run from the law irl.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"Victory is the weakness of the enemy."
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Christina Vallentine
Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:22:00 -
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better hope you didnt post from the same PC you use your normal account on =p (IP = same then) ParAnoia!
In response, no clue what to do. I was only told it was illegal to do it so I never tried to get away with it.
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Black Scorpio
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:22:00 -
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just keep playing EvE. If you managed to get away from Concord, it's CCPs fault, not yours, and they should fix it!
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Locke DieDrake on 17/11/2006 18:24:38 If you have any honor at all, which is deeply unlikely. You'd self destruc your ship, and offer the mods to the guy you killed in high sec.
and then use the kill rights you get for him stealing your mods to kill him again
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Christina Vallentine
Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: b1ue thunder :( I came here to make things right, not get in trouble. I could've not said anything and exploited this in the future, but I'd rather help CCP out.
I sincerely hope they don't take away my account.
How noble LOL, it's a nice approach to try. Might even work, but I doubt it.
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Black Scorpio
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: b1ue thunder :( I came here to make things right, not get in trouble. I could've not said anything and exploited this in the future, but I'd rather help CCP out.
I sincerely hope they don't take away my account.
You're right m8, I think if anything CCP should work with you to correct their bug, not ban you out since you have sincerely admitted this! (sincerity being only a perception of course), but still. Then it will be a win/win. CCP will know what to fix, and you will keep playing EvE.
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Merdaneth
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:24:00 -
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I know you can evade Concord. Surviving Concord attacks cannot be directly bannable, otherwise they would have to mention it specifically in the EULA or some other official documentation, which it isn't. I only heard about this when I started visiting the forums.
But to answer your question, you want a sure way to avoid any possible penalties for your action? Solution is simple: take out the ship you escaped Concord in and push self-destruct. That's it, that's all.
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Chienka
Ends of Invention
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:24:00 -
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CONCORD Can take upto 25 seconds to respond in a .5 system, I presume if you flew a ceptor or AF maybe, then you could do this, if the gate guns didnt fry you.
Yea but usually theyre all web/scram/jam right?
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SengH
Black Omega Security The OSS
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:25:00 -
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You dont need AOL to change your IP. He could be using 1 of the thousands of free proxy servers out there. ---------------------------------------- Back for a month cus Awu5 finished..... |
Gobblock
Caldari Serenity Mining
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:26:00 -
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Well the cats out of the bag, ccp will probably get around to you eventually now that you have posted about it.
First off, you should self destruct the exact ship with the exact fitting.
Second, you should contact CCP with a report detailing how and when you did this.
Then you cross your fingers and hope for the best.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:27:00 -
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To be entirely honest, I didn't know that was an exploit. Any time I've been engaged by them I've tried to run like hell. Never worked for me though. :)
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Benedict Carol
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:28:00 -
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: b1ue thunder :( I came here to make things right, not get in trouble. I could've not said anything and exploited this in the future, but I'd rather help CCP out.
I sincerely hope they don't take away my account.
option a) send an apology to the gm's stating exactly how u did it and tell them it won't happen again and ur very sorry for doing it
option b) keep quiet
your choice. can't really say what i'd do because i've never done something that's been classified as an exploit
DE
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Caanan
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Caanan on 17/11/2006 18:37:17 IIRC in a system with a sec of 0.5 where there is little or no concord presence it's pretty much legal and possible to destroy someon'e ship, tank the police and jump out.
However if you do some sort of massacre in Jita and get away with it then you get the banz0r.
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Caanan Edited by: Caanan on 17/11/2006 18:37:17 IIRC in a system with a sec of 0.5 where there is little or no concord presence it's pretty much legal and possible to destroy someon'e ship, tank the police and jump out.
However if you do some sort of massacre in Jita and get away with it then you get the banz0r.
wrong. it is 100% an expoit. no question about it
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:49:00 -
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Why is it an exploit? If you run and get away with it, well done. TBH though, I think if your tagged as being Concord food, there should be a never ending aggression timer until they get you.
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun Why is it an exploit? If you run and get away with it, well done. TBH though, I think if your tagged as being Concord food, there should be a never ending aggression timer until they get you.
it's an exploit because ccp say it's an exploit. there is no discussing it. ccp say what is an exploit and what isn't. they make the rules, you follow them
DE
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Sev Renard
Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:03:00 -
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Honestly, I'd just file a bug report with the exact method you used so that it can be fixed. _________________________________________
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Brutor Shaun
Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Brutor Shaun Why is it an exploit? If you run and get away with it, well done. TBH though, I think if your tagged as being Concord food, there should be a never ending aggression timer until they get you.
it's an exploit because ccp say it's an exploit. there is no discussing it. ccp say what is an exploit and what isn't. they make the rules, you follow them
Well then perhaps CCP should make it so you can't escape, rather than (supposedly) telling you not to. I've never seen it written anywhere!
Next someone will say it's an exploit to tank, then run away from sentry guns.
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Becham
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:06:00 -
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If I hadn't read this thread, I would have never thought of running from the Concord cops as an 'exploit'.
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Illifae
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Illifae on 17/11/2006 19:08:17 I'm sure they won't ban him if he details it in a bugreport/petition.
Chances are they will take the ship off him (and give him insurance... hope it was insured and tech 1 ).
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Brutor Shaun
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Brutor Shaun Why is it an exploit? If you run and get away with it, well done. TBH though, I think if your tagged as being Concord food, there should be a never ending aggression timer until they get you.
it's an exploit because ccp say it's an exploit. there is no discussing it. ccp say what is an exploit and what isn't. they make the rules, you follow them
Well then perhaps CCP should make it so you can't escape, rather than (supposedly) telling you not to. I've never seen it written anywhere!
Next someone will say it's an exploit to tank, then run away from sentry guns.
And maybe the police should make it so u can't murder somebody instead of telling you not to. pleb!
DE
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:13:00 -
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I don't think that you will be banned if you send a petition to ccp telling them exatcly what happened. They will probably take your ship though.
Reason I say this is becuase that would not be in CCP's best long term intrest. I know it is an exploit to dup isk. but if one day after patch day I am just screwing around and manage to double my credits (OMG 100k isk) I should not be penalized for telling ccp how I did this. Otherwise no one would ever report buggs/exploits.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Crimson Knights Trade Federation
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:14:00 -
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Hehe... I wonder how many of the people who are clamoring for banning or insist that he destroy his ship are high-sec loving miners/traders?
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Kala Veijo
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.17 19:17:00 -
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h4xSpl01t3r!
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