Do you sit in the CCP office and can tell if the developers are not hard pressed and need to push out half-finished products BECAUSE of the fast update schedule and because they simply don't have enough time to flesh them out properly? No, you don't.

And only because you work for 20 years in the "software development" which is a pretty ambiguous and broad term doesn't mean your company relates to CCP or any other similar company.

Dear CCP,

It is not my habit to post at forum, however the current situation with game UI urges to discuss it.
I have started playing EVE Online roughly two years ago and participated in GÇ£little thingsGÇ¥ voting, which made me think that you still care about players community.

What happens now is really sad. And I do apologize for being not polite.
GÇ£GUI ModernizationGÇ¥ initiative went wrong. In my understanding the root of problem is that new map and overview designers, probably, do not care much about results and their acceptance. Also the phrase GÇ£Quality ControlGÇ¥ sounds like a mockery for me, because at 90% UI scale new icons are the complete mess and just one this fact alone was enough reason to prevent their deployment to TQ.

The new overview is GÇ£fancyGÇ¥. Too excessive and hard to distinguish glyphs. As EVE Online is mostly PVP game I'd prefer more minimalistic approach: to be able to immediately distinguish player's ships, NPCs and celestials at a single look. This worked good with old icons and doesn't work at all with the new ones. Even after a week they were implemented.

Generally speaking, many new UI improvements were not for better:

1) Jump animation
Please, make it optional, like camera shake. Of course, it deserves GÇ£wow!sGÇ¥ at Fanfest, but each every day I make dozens of gate jumps and it causes only negative mood. I'd like to remind you that on many concert DVDs there is a warning printed GÇ£contains stroboscopic effectsGÇ¥, as not 100% of people like watching flashing vertigo. Please, make alternative in graphics options: fade in to black GÇô fade out.

2) Neokom
Old neokom was more compact and more informative. New icons are simply worse.

3) Damage control icon
I have absolutely no idea why it was so necessary to change it.

4) Map
The only advantage of new map is that it can be windowed. All the rest are disadvantages. While scanning with the old map it was perfectly clear where POSes are located and manipulating probes was also easier. Please, do not remove old map.

5) Brackets and icons. They are excessive and inefficient. Please make them optional like a new map.

As far as I understand making simple things GÇ£prettierGÇ¥ is the wrong priority. Revolutionary changes are required to break something old inefficient and to build something more useful. Denying old features noone ever complained about and replacing them with less usable stuff is the mistake. Can you, please, set usability as the main priority for GÇ£UI modernizationGÇ¥ rather than GÇ£fancier lookGÇ¥.

The GÇ£red crossesGÇ¥ are already eponymic, please, bring them back ASAP.

Thanks

new drones icons are very awful, look this screen for 2 second, and say, how many there ships http://i.imgur.com/iOormvS.png

Still no patch for the icons and no new comment here in this post.

1) What was the opinion of our elected representatives (CSM) who do not log in here to speak?

2) What happens now with the icons? Will there be a choice between old and new?



CCP or one of the CSM-Members: Give us some good news, please.

Dear CCP,

It is not my habit to post at forum, however the current situation with game UI urges to discuss it.
I have started playing EVE Online roughly two years ago and participated in GÇ£little thingsGÇ¥ voting, which made me think that you still care about players community.

What happens now is really sad. And I do apologize for being not polite.
GÇ£GUI ModernizationGÇ¥ initiative went wrong. In my understanding the root of problem is that new map and overview designers, probably, do not care much about results and their acceptance. Also the phrase GÇ£Quality ControlGÇ¥ sounds like a mockery for me, because at 90% UI scale new icons are the complete mess and just one this fact alone was enough reason to prevent their deployment to TQ.

The new overview is GÇ£fancyGÇ¥. Too excessive and hard to distinguish glyphs. As EVE Online is mostly PVP game I'd prefer more minimalistic approach: to be able to immediately distinguish player's ships, NPCs and celestials at a single look. This worked good with old icons and doesn't work at all with the new ones. Even after a week they were implemented.

Generally speaking, many new UI improvements were not for better:

1) Jump animation
Please, make it optional, like camera shake. Of course, it deserves GÇ£wow!sGÇ¥ at Fanfest, but each every day I make dozens of gate jumps and it causes only negative mood. I'd like to remind you that on many concert DVDs there is a warning printed GÇ£contains stroboscopic effectsGÇ¥, as not 100% of people like watching flashing vertigo. Please, make alternative in graphics options: fade in to black GÇô fade out.

2) Neokom
Old neokom was more compact and more informative. New icons are simply worse.

3) Damage control icon
I have absolutely no idea why it was so necessary to change it.

4) Map
The only advantage of new map is that it can be windowed. All the rest are disadvantages. While scanning with the old map it was perfectly clear where POSes are located and manipulating probes was also easier. Please, do not remove old map.

5) Brackets and icons. They are excessive and inefficient. Please make them optional like a new map.

As far as I understand making simple things GÇ£prettierGÇ¥ is the wrong priority. Revolutionary changes are required to break something old inefficient and to build something more useful. Denying old features noone ever complained about and replacing them with less usable stuff is the mistake. Can you, please, set usability as the main priority for GÇ£UI modernizationGÇ¥ rather than GÇ£fancier lookGÇ¥.

The GÇ£red crossesGÇ¥ are already eponymic, please, bring them back ASAP.

Thanks

The longer you let this icongate drag on without a resolution,the less it will look like you value and respect your player base.

Infact you have a fantastic opportunity to do just that,to show that we really matter.I can't speak for everyone but i certainly wouldn't think you weak if you were to rectify something that clearly hasn't worked out as you'd hoped.

This shouldn't be about pride or losing face rather it should just treated as a mistake and a learning process Please do the right thing.

You know they laugh when they read the emo stuff from players on the forums, right? You should know your tears sustain them. Isn't there enough rage quit mockery in peoples bio's, enough that you don't have to do it on the forums? lol...

1. First we hear from many of you the difference between NPC and player ships is simply too subtle with the new icon set, and we're right now experimenting with alternatives to separate these groups more, maybe adding entirely new shapes for NPC ships to make them more clearly stand out from players.

I got an answer about the Icons.

I was told.... that I need to contact the CSM about the icons

So, the CSM has more control over the direction of icons than CCP.