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Solairen
Matsuko Holding
256
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Posted - 2015.06.09 23:09:09 -
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Well I don't know if it was all the whining or not, but they didn't add the Stratios SKIN today like they said they would. They only added the Astero.
Kind of annoying since I was looking forward to it, and seems silly it wasn't added because it looked like someone else ship even though that special ship had different & better stats.
I guess squeaky wheel gets the grease. (Unless it has to do w/ Sentries and Ishtars, then it gets ignored). |
Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
857
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Posted - 2015.06.09 23:56:03 -
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Solairen wrote:Well I don't know if it was all the whining or not, but they didn't add the Stratios SKIN today like they said they would. They only added the Astero.
Kind of annoying since I was looking forward to it, and seems silly it wasn't added because it looked like someone else ship even though that special ship had different & better stats.
I guess squeaky wheel gets the grease. (Unless it has to do w/ Sentries and Ishtars, then it gets ignored).
They are not releasing them all at once.
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Greezy Bartholomew Esq
Crow Vanguard
0
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Posted - 2015.06.10 00:05:19 -
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Did CCP specifically state the SER was limited edition when it was released? If so, it's pretty scummy to go back on their word. I remember when Riot started re-releasing limited edition skins in League and people (rightfully so) flipped out.
If they never said they were going to be limited edition you don't really have much of a complaint. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1661
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Posted - 2015.06.10 00:07:49 -
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There is something about this thread ... can't quite put my finger on it.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Solairen
Matsuko Holding
256
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Posted - 2015.06.10 00:10:16 -
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Greezy Bartholomew Esq wrote:Did CCP specifically state the SER was limited edition when it was released? If so, it's pretty scummy to go back on their word. I remember when Riot started re-releasing limited edition skins in League and people (rightfully so) flipped out.
If they never said they were going to be limited edition you don't really have much of a complaint.
The hull was limited edtion (Only seeded to TQ) - and still is, it has better stats and different stats. All CCP was adding was the color scheme.
It's the equivalent of adding "Navy" SKINs. Doesn't make it a NAVY Brutix in stats, only makes it have the paint job.
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Solairen
Matsuko Holding
256
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Posted - 2015.06.10 00:14:01 -
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Entity wrote:Solairen wrote:Well I don't know if it was all the whining or not, but they didn't add the Stratios SKIN today like they said they would. They only added the Astero.
Kind of annoying since I was looking forward to it, and seems silly it wasn't added because it looked like someone else ship even though that special ship had different & better stats.
I guess squeaky wheel gets the grease. (Unless it has to do w/ Sentries and Ishtars, then it gets ignored). They are not releasing them all at once.
(True - they only said they'd start releasing them today) (But...)
Shhhhhhhhhhh this is a whine thread about paint jobs shared between ships that have different stats. And I'm trying to participate by whining. |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
221
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Posted - 2015.06.10 00:21:42 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
And those guy behind still looking at blondie ... |
Greezy Bartholomew Esq
Crow Vanguard
0
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Posted - 2015.06.10 01:34:08 -
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Solairen wrote:Greezy Bartholomew Esq wrote:Did CCP specifically state the SER was limited edition when it was released? If so, it's pretty scummy to go back on their word. I remember when Riot started re-releasing limited edition skins in League and people (rightfully so) flipped out.
If they never said they were going to be limited edition you don't really have much of a complaint. The hull was limited edtion (Only seeded to TQ) - and still is, it has better stats and different stats. All CCP was adding was the color scheme. It's the equivalent of adding "Navy" SKINs. Doesn't make it a NAVY Brutix in stats, only makes it have the paint job.
IMHO the paint job is part of the hull so I'm leaning towards my original thought on this. It's a scummy thing for CCP to do.
Why not just make the new skin a different color so the SER remains unique? |
Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1523
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Posted - 2015.06.10 01:43:31 -
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Entity rustling all these jelly poors lmao. |
Seven Koskanaiken
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
1524
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Posted - 2015.06.10 02:06:27 -
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Apropos of nothing, I like how this skin thing has been a complete **** up from the start, from the scrapped blueprint model, the release bug that was more popular than the feature, the greed is good pricing, and now recycling of unique skins because every child must have a trophy, I guess...
...and we're still not anywhere in sight of the actual and only feature[ people asked for and wanted, promoted by CCP Seagull on stage at fanfest 2013/4 (?), of custom skin creation of corp/alliance skins. |
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Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2015.06.10 09:27:39 -
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Princess Entity tears still flowing? |
Wendrika Hydreiga
378
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Posted - 2015.06.10 10:59:48 -
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I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it. |
Khan Wrenth
Hedion University Amarr Empire
166
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:35:12 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Apropos of nothing, I like how this skin thing continues to lurch from one controversy to another without any sign of abating, and needlessly manages to **** off a new group of players each and every time. From the scrapped blueprint model, the release bug that was more popular than the feature, the greed is good pricing, and now recycling of "unique" skins because every child must have a trophy, I guess...
...and we're still not anywhere in sight of the actual and only skinning feature people asked for and wanted, promoted by CCP Seagull on stage at fanfest 2013/4 (?); custom creation of alliance theme skins/livery. Like, a universally popular thing that should have been impossible to screw up and angered no one. Who was asking for, or anticipating, unique skins to be applied to all ships 2 years ago? Literally no one. If some mission bear came here then, demanding CCP give them the Imperial Apoc skin on their Level4 ship, they would have been (rightly!) trolled out in a New York minute.
Who is behind all of this? Money's on the EA guy hired in 2013.
I do believe this qualifies as a wrecking shot. Someone at CCP just got alpha'd off the grid.
Let's discuss overhauling the way we get intel in EvE.
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1346
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:53:44 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it.
I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right?
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Fatoria Hemah
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2015.06.10 17:22:36 -
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Putting in Skins for ships to look-alike unique onse is such a horrible thing. It's like we go to the olympic games and got told 'Well we decided the 2nd and 3rd best athlets can get a Gold painting on their medals it they want. Don't worry, it's still silver and bronze on the inside' - all would go wtf and for good reason Same here, there have been unique ships handed out on special events like winners of Alliance tournaments. If it's too hard to update those skins with better graphics if there aren't that many just let them keep old skins, makes them just look more special ;) |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1884
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Posted - 2015.06.10 18:07:24 -
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Fatoria Hemah wrote:Putting in Skins for ships to look-alike unique onse is such a horrible thing. It's like we go to the olympic games and got told 'Well we decided the 2nd and 3rd best athlets can get a Gold painting on their medals it they want. Don't worry, it's still silver and bronze on the inside' - all would go wtf and for good reason Same here, there have been unique ships handed out on special events like winners of Alliance tournaments. If it's too hard to update those skins with better graphics if there aren't that many just let them keep old skins, makes them just look more special ;)
Who's gonna stop anyone from painting his Olympic medal a different colour? Who's gonna get his jimmies rustled because said medal got painted over?
You do realise if you put the effort into it you could CAST a medal just like the Olympic ones right?
Hell 3d print one and paint it gold. I'm sure people will cry about it... |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
484
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Posted - 2015.06.10 18:17:46 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it. I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right?
The 45 Trillion ISK repossessions by CCP happened just for luls in August of 2014-YC116?
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
223
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:00:26 -
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The majority of Eve players don't even know that there is some other Stratios other than standard one been released. But even if they would know it pretty much sure they don't care. It is an issue for a very limited number of people, and i think it's better for them to resolve it internally with CCP withput public attention.
Still wsiting for the Big L comment here. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Create Alliance
596
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Posted - 2015.06.10 21:23:44 -
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GankYou wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it. I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right? The 45 Trillion ISK repossessions by CCP happened just for luls in August of 2014-YC116?
That was for ALL RMTers that got caught. I doubt anything belonging to Somer was repossessed because they gave Blink time to pay out withdrawals.
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
489
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:23:54 -
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Somer never got caught for RMTing.. he was banned for posting an exchange between himself and a member of CCP.
Also, CCP never said it was exclusive or wouldn't be released again. Just that it was first released there. |
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1346
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:27:22 -
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GankYou wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it. I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right? The 45 Trillion ISK repossessions by CCP happened just for luls in August of 2014-YC116?
Oh doh, I thought he meant Entity. |
Solairen
Matsuko Holding
257
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Posted - 2015.06.10 23:45:58 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:GankYou wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:I don't know what is worse. If the fact an incredibly ellusive special edition ship was given out only to a RMT 3rd party or that one of the owners of that ship is complaining that people will be able to fly ships that "look" like it. I'm sure you can back that up with some facts etc, right? The 45 Trillion ISK repossessions by CCP happened just for luls in August of 2014-YC116? Oh doh, I thought he meant Entity.
Nah he was referring to Somer. Basically there was a special Somer auction for 4 SER hulls (5 but one winner took a diff prize).
So only 4 people got these hulls, they have different/better stats. Most players don't know they exist.
Somer was shut down later last year, with Forums speculation ranging from RMT to disclosure of Comms, to rigging. I honestly don't know if it was ever actually mentioned. I have no idea myself no do i care to speculate.
So in summary: 1 person is upset that a skin is being released to match a ship he owns in appearance only, and his ship has better stats, questionably never undocks anyway since he is a collector, doesn't actually affect his collection since hull is still different, that few players know exist, and was awarded from a questionable gambling site, with no promise of exclusivity or limited nature (just that at that time they would only seed winners). |
TERRIBLESPACEWARRIOR
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.06.11 00:13:07 -
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You sound like the crying 1% demanding that your shiny precious remain only yours. Guess what, I'm pretty sure the actual masses may have a bit more say than one crying rich man having a fit over his lost imaginary space wealth. |
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
783
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:09:53 -
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Anybody saying that the looks of the Stratios emergency arent what makes the Ship is delusional. Re releasing these ships as skins is going to hit their value by quite a bit. But if were going down this road why not release gold and silver Magnate skins as looks dont matter at all and maybe Moracha/Chremoas skins aswell, I really like the look of these two.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.06.11 01:19:48 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Anybody saying that the looks of the Stratios emergency arent what makes the Ship is delusional. Re releasing these ships as skins is going to hit their value by quite a bit. But if were going down this road why not release gold and silver Magnate skins as looks dont matter at all and maybe Moracha/Chremoas skins aswell, I really like the look of these two. I need a blood red Cyclone and to name it, "Time of the month"
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Dyscordia
Super Elite Friendship Club
42
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Posted - 2015.06.11 05:16:18 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Anybody saying that the looks of the Stratios emergency arent what makes the Ship is delusional. Re releasing these ships as skins is going to hit their value by quite a bit. But if were going down this road why not release gold and silver Magnate skins as looks dont matter at all and maybe Moracha/Chremoas skins aswell, I really like the look of these two.
If I sell a cheap Picasso print for 50 dollars that does not mean the original Picasso will go down in value by 50 million dollars. To say that there isn't going to be a buyer for asking price tomorrow if the variant hull is actually put on market is naive or disingenuous. There is probably a very small pool of players who can afford the asking price to begin - and those folks would jump at a chance to own a ship with 3 or 4 hulls in existence. |
Wendrika Hydreiga
383
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Posted - 2015.06.11 11:23:52 -
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Gregor Parud wrote: Oh doh, I thought he meant Entity.
I have the upmost respect for Entitty and his incredible ship collection. And my knowledge of what happened with Somer is almost nonexistant, apart from the fact they were given SER Stratios. Because of reasons.
But Entity's 1% attitude regarding SKINS is just not cool. |
Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
858
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Posted - 2015.06.11 12:10:34 -
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Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Gregor Parud wrote: Oh doh, I thought he meant Entity.
I have the upmost respect for Entitty and his incredible ship collection. And my knowledge of what happened with Somer is almost nonexistant, apart from the fact they were given SER Stratios. Because of reasons. But Entity's 1% attitude regarding SKINS is just not cool.
It has little to do with 1% and everything to do with the fact it's cheap and lazy to copy an existing skin, of a unique ship no less.
There's 2 problems with this: - Clearly everyone who is saying looks aren't important are forgetting that they're apparently important enough for CCP to charge you for them. - If CCP isn't committed to maintaining the integrity of unique content, then they shouldn't release unique content. What's next? A ship with the same stats as a unique? "Oh but it has a different name so it's ok, your ship is still special". Yeah whatever
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Dyscordia
Super Elite Friendship Club
43
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Posted - 2015.06.11 14:23:39 -
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Entity wrote:Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Gregor Parud wrote: Oh doh, I thought he meant Entity.
I have the upmost respect for Entitty and his incredible ship collection. And my knowledge of what happened with Somer is almost nonexistant, apart from the fact they were given SER Stratios. Because of reasons. But Entity's 1% attitude regarding SKINS is just not cool. It has little to do with 1% and everything to do with the fact it's cheap and lazy to copy an existing skin, of a unique ship no less. There's 2 problems with this: - Clearly everyone who is saying looks aren't important are forgetting that they're apparently important enough for CCP to charge you for them. - If CCP isn't committed to maintaining the integrity of unique content, then they shouldn't release unique content. What's next? A ship with the same stats as a unique? "Oh but it has a different name so it's ok, your ship is still special". Yeah whatever
Your ship is still unique. No matter how hard I try, I will always only be able to launch 4 Sentries. If you care to undock your ship, you will be able to launch 5. Ship remains unique. |
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2015.06.11 15:14:28 -
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Stratiosgate - Entity freaks out |
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