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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 20:55:00 -
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The dronebay increase to 125 cubic meters should be interesting. I'll make sure to test it lots. Thanks!
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Evelgrivion Well now that the Gallente have a gank-mobile, can the Caldari please have the ROF bonus to at least hope to compete?
I'm betting the drake will still compete favorably with the myrmidon.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Originally by: Jim McGregor That said, I wouldnt mind it losing a turret; it's a droneboat after all. Unlike the Caldari fanbois, mind you.
It's already got 2 fewer high slots for weapons than the other BCs do.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Yah, but its a drone boat
The beauty of drone boats is that it doesn't need a full spread of wtfpwn turrets. I've not crunched the numbers so don't know what its DPS is atm, but if it is overpowered (and its distictly poossible that it could be) then the turrets should get the nerf, not the drones.
Perhaps you missed my point. Name another droneboat that has 3 fewer highslots than anything else in its class. 2 is the max to date (Dominix).
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Corvinus
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 21/11/2006 21:10:44 Give the ship 8 turrets with double damage bonuses while you are at it. Why not make it obvious there is no reason to pick another race in this game. There are still some people who doesnt pick gallente you know...
5 heavy drones +37.5% Repair bonus +50% drone hitpoint bonus +50% drone damage bonus 5 medium slots
Yeah ok. Sigh.
I could not agree more. The myrmidon already did waaaay more damage than any of the other races, but sure boost it even more, seems like CCP just want to keep gallente as the king of pvp in this game. Well I better start training for yet another win-button ship from gallente
Let's see... the myrmidon's downsides:
1) Its primary weapons can be destroyed and it has no spares unless you settle for lower DPS 2) It has no gun bonuses 3) It only has 6 highslots 4) The guns it does fit cost cap and have almost no range (if you use blasters) 5) Has to worry about tracking 6) Can't hit frigs if you go with 5 heavy drones
Yep, pretty much looks like it SHOULD have the highest DPS.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm Has anyone actualy weighted this up against an ishtar? Spare drone issue aside it seems we have a super ishtar at 15% of the cost
My ishtar wipes the floor with a myrmidon, simply because the ishtar can carry so many spare drones and the myrmidon can't. Plus, the Ishtar has a very effective anti-blaster tank built-in.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Judar QUIT THE *****ING
Maby he will restore the drake back to its former glory now
Judor
Why would he do that? You don't buff the strong ships just because the weak ones got bufed.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.21 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia If it's going to be a droneboat, then cripple the turrets and possibly highslots in general, and give it 150 or 175m3, then it can carry a couple spare drones (granted, some people will still ***** that its not enough), and relies on using drones, just as a Raven relies on using missiles, or a geddon with lasers.
You be sure to let me know when I can shoot the launchers or turrets off your ship, ok? Cause until that day, it's not even similar.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.22 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
You are obviously 100% clueless. Have you ever tried to pop a high skilled Domi pilot's Ogre II's?
Yes and it's easy.
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.22 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ath Amon Edited by: Ath Amon on 22/11/2006 04:07:41 here a little graph comparsion of old prenrf hurricane vs new postboost myrm
(hoping numbers are right :P)
graph1 (gank)
graph2 (hurr gank vs myrm tank)
this is quite interesting as it compare the old and clearly overpowered hurricane with its huge dps (2 ship bonuses and 3 damage mods) against a myrmidon with 1 ship bonus and no damage mods... i have to add the myrm have also a tank bonus and 1 more mid slot?
to get hurricane nerfed cause high dps: 3 page of whinage to get drake nerfed cause big tank and good damage: 5 page of whinage to get the myrmidon boosted to best dps and defence: priceless
You're conveniently ignoring a pretty critical difference. The myrmidons in your graph can't fit any sort of decent tank at all. The hurricane can fit a nice tank because of the comically low grid costs of autocannons. So if the hurricane can tank and gank at the same time, why should its gank come anywhere near a ship that can't?
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Risien Drogonne
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Posted - 2006.11.22 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia People ***** and moan about god-like setups that they can't beat, yet they refuse to acknowledge the fact that you will NEVER FIGHT SUCH A SETUP IN PVP. Unless you're some honor-bound guy who refuses to warp away, you're never going to lose to those 'overpowered' Drakes. Setup a real pvp Drake, and you'll suddenly find that uber ship isn't very uber, and turn those resists into missile velocity, or whatever, and you'll find that while dealing heayv DPS up cloe, the Drake goes down like lead in water.
Bull****. There is plenty of room in PvP for ships that don't have any tackling gear.
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