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Cearain
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Posted - 2012.02.03 15:29:00 -
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This proposal makes allot of sense. Skimming through I didn't see any significant downsides either. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.02.06 15:06:00 -
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Jattila Vrek wrote:Although I like most of the idea, there's one thing I don't like. I think you should still take a security hit when you attack someone with positive security status. I don't care if pirates kill each other. But lowsec isn't just about pvp. It has asteroid belts, complexes, mission agents etc. for a reason. Your proposal would make lowsec even more dangerous for carebears like me. It would be a wasteland. If you want consensual pvp: put up a can in Jita, join RvB or whatever. Don't bother me with it.
Thinking that people in low sec will not kill your pve ship because they do not want a security hit will just get you killed repeatedly. You should give up on that idea right away.
Anyone who goes to low sec now with any frequency already understands this. So this proposal will not deter anyone who already goes to low sec.
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.02.14 14:30:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:TFirish3 wrote:Well done, Jack. This accounts perfectly for 99% of people's problems with lowsec pvp -- the sec status and travel restrictions. Would love to see this implemented, hope CCP is listening. My biggest problem with low sec PvP is the use of a vast amount of alts to scout and gather intel risk free. Toss in the local chat and cloaky T3's and you have a stage set for by far the most risk adverse players that have ever played any game. Always running at the first sign that one of them might take a round of antimatter. Another example of what happens when far too much information is available with no risk for players to use. "Wait what? You mean it wont be a 100% risk free gank?! **** that ****. EVERYONE WARP OUT AND GET SAFE NOW!!!" - 99% of EVE Online Players
Do you think null sec is better?
If so, do you think there is a mechanic that null sec has that makes it better?
If you think wormholes are better for pvp I can only say the actual facts the of amount of pvp per player in wormholes versus low sec proves that is not true.
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.02.14 17:04:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Cearain wrote:Do you think null sec is better?
If so, do you think there is a mechanic that null sec has that makes it better?
If you think wormholes are better for pvp I can only say the actual facts the of amount of pvp per player in wormholes versus low sec proves that is not true.
I don't think null is better. The issue comes down to the fact there is no more unknown when it comes to PvP. I am not saying the OP's idea is bad, I think it has a lot of merit, but it will not be enough to get more players to want to come out of high sec. Movement in this game is by far too easily tracked. Which forces anyone to join a large entity to have a chance.
I don't know who is right overall but in my experience the opposite is true.
When you have no idea what your up against you bring what you can expecting the worst. If you have an idea of what the other guy has you will bring something similar to get a fight.
Moreover I think if people end up leeroying gangs into overwhelming odds because the intel is more difficult to come by they will be less likely to pvp - or even play eve - in the future. If people don't know what they are getting into the fights will tend to be more lopsided not less.
My experience is in faction war so ymmv. I think because Faction war's main draw is the good fights there are more people who are of that mindset. Of course if your running up against pirates who are actually trying to make isk from pvp they won't have this same mindset. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.02.14 17:25:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:Vaurion Infara wrote:Then explain to me how highsec mission griefing or trade channel scamming would be tolerated in 'polite society'. There is a rather big difference between tricking money from gullible people (scam), throwing banana peels in front of people (mission grief) and then premeditated murder (pew). While the two former are frowned upon, causes some raised eye-brows or a slap on the wrist (depending on severity) the latter will 'normally' be against the law and involves severe sanctions.
We are immortal in eve so there is no murder. Pew is basically criminal damage to property.
And arguably there was consent to it when you pressed undock. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.02.15 12:54:00 -
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Dro Nee wrote:
Second, why does everyone insist that low sec needs more pvp? It already accounts for 30% of PVP in the game, hotzones already rival the 0.0 hotzones in terms of average kills/day, and even the quiet systems see more traffic than the quietest 0.0 systems. All the verifable data says that low is doing just fine, even though all the forum warrior data tells a different story. ...
EVE needs more frequent, quality, small scale, pvp. Its not a question of whether "low sec" is more exciting than "null sec." They likely both need more pvp.
Its a question of whether EVE is more exciting than many other things someone can do with a couple hours of time.
When the chances are very high that you will spend those couple of hours roaming around with out a single decent fight, eve needs work.
I'm not sure what the statistics say, but it *seems* like low sec really took a hit when ccp decided to abandon spaceships for a year or so. But I don't really know if the population went down overall. Where I hang out it seems it did. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.07.23 17:48:00 -
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Any csm interested in this? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.08.07 14:46:00 -
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SmarncaV2 wrote:Mike Whiite wrote:You people do realise that this would copletly destroy all effort that has been done for FW right now.
In what way?
It won't at all.
CCP please drop the sentry gun ideas you had expressed in the minutes. They are terrible.
Implement the op instead. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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