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Koba Kyogen
Ultima Unitatis The Asylum.
84
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:10:26 -
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I'm about to file a missing persons report for all members of the CSM.
Where are you guys?
AWOL or just a dereliction of duty? Vets aren't logging in right now, and Iceland has been quiet for over a week.
Where are you guys? |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
1128
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:14:03 -
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Eve is real. So they will start working when the elections are up again, just like real politicians.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2520
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:14:14 -
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At home. Or work. Or the bar.
Probably. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
1790
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:22:19 -
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Koba Kyogen wrote:I'm about to file a missing persons report for all members of the CSM.
Where are you guys?
AWOL or just a dereliction of duty? Vets aren't logging in right now, and Iceland has been quiet for over a week.
Where are you guys? maybe if you were more connected you would see their activity. I've seen corbex, steve and sugar all take part in discussions in the past two days. Just because they don't seek you out doesn't mean they aren't doing things.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
303
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:25:37 -
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They are each still under NDA.. so they cant speak to the public until mittens orders them to |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
38137
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:36:28 -
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I don't see this as a bad thing personally.
Some CSM members have said that the CSM takes up so much time that they almost can't even log in to the game while in CSM; so it's possible we don't see them here much because they are off working on issues.
However from my perspective, maths CSM is nothing more than s block voting contest. There is nothing specific about the CSM that makes people more committed, more knowledgeable about what's happening in the game, more expert on issues, etc. than many people in the community.
Look at the feedback on the warp change idea. Pushed by a CSM member and the result is initially a very poorly constructed concept. Not until the rest of the community provides feedback does CCP get real value.
So for me, except for a very few CSM members, it's great that we don't see them often. Some of the recent comments I have read here have been pretty light on understanding of mechanics and poor on attitudes towards some parts of the community.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
21883
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:37:12 -
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The CSM aren't involved in any of the threads im currently **** posting in, therefore the CSM are remiss in their duties.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Koba Kyogen
Ultima Unitatis The Asylum.
84
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:37:34 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Koba Kyogen wrote:I'm about to file a missing persons report for all members of the CSM.
Where are you guys?
AWOL or just a dereliction of duty? Vets aren't logging in right now, and Iceland has been quiet for over a week.
Where are you guys? maybe if you were more connected you would see their activity. I've seen corbex, steve and sugar all take part in discussions in the past two days. Just because they don't seek you out doesn't mean they aren't doing things.
Quiet, Broski.
I don't see anything here, for us. Nice that you seek them out, but they aren't reporting here - where it matters.
I wouldn't expect 4chan kids to understand. No point in asking JulyAlpha or Josh to explain it to you either. WhenImInSpace prob understands, but he always was the best of your crew. |
DaReaper
Net 7
2216
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:40:05 -
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Koba Kyogen wrote:I'm about to file a missing persons report for all members of the CSM.
Where are you guys?
AWOL or just a dereliction of duty? Vets aren't logging in right now, and Iceland has been quiet for over a week.
Where are you guys?
Wait.. what do you mean Iceland has been quite for a week? you need to be more specific. the 07 show was Thursday, today is Monday.. that is not a week. There is a thread talking about fleet warp changes will CSM and CCP in it as of Friday, the csm and ccp have been making twitter rounds. so.. what the hades are you smoking?
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
38137
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Posted - 2015.06.15 21:48:48 -
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Koba Kyogen wrote:I don't see anything here, for us. Nice that you seek them out, but they aren't reporting here - where it matters. Here is one of the last places that matter. How many people are reached through this place?
Even CCP sometimes don't post here, while they post information elsewhere.
Reddit, their own blogs, Twitter and other third party social networks provide a wider audience than the forum.
We are all just the nut jobs here and a very small group within the community.
One alliance wide evemail by some members of the CSM would reach more people than a post in the forum.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8726
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:04:05 -
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Koba Kyogen wrote:I'm about to file a missing persons report for all members of the CSM.
Where are you guys?
AWOL or just a dereliction of duty? Vets aren't logging in right now, and Iceland has been quiet for over a week.
Where are you guys?
They're all still recovering from the massive worldwide mangasm following the Fallout 4 announcement yesterday.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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DaReaper
Net 7
2216
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:07:01 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Koba Kyogen wrote:I'm about to file a missing persons report for all members of the CSM.
Where are you guys?
AWOL or just a dereliction of duty? Vets aren't logging in right now, and Iceland has been quiet for over a week.
Where are you guys? They're all still recovering from the massive worldwide mangasm following the Fallout 4 announcement yesterday. Mr Epeen
oh lord...
lol
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16536
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:12:15 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:I don't see this as a bad thing personally.
Some CSM members have said that the CSM takes up so much time that they almost can't even log in to the game while in CSM...
It's not so much that it takes all of one's time as it eats up all of one's willingness to think about, talk about, work towards or even play EVE.
Your typical week of CSMing leaves you between -540 to +90 minutes a week in which you're not going to instantly react to almost any stimulus by saying "Jesus shitfucking christ, shut the **** up about EVE, thanks".
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Torxx Maxx
Almost Human.
9
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:13:33 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Koba Kyogen wrote:I don't see anything here, for us. Nice that you seek them out, but they aren't reporting here - where it matters. Here is one of the last places that matter. How many people are reached through this place? Even CCP sometimes don't post here, while they post information elsewhere. Reddit, their own blogs, Twitter and other third party social networks provide a wider audience than the forum. We are all just the nut jobs here and a very small group within the community. One alliance wide evemail by some members of the CSM would reach more people than a post in the forum.
If that's true why does CCP have a forum at all, may as well shout out my damn window instead. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16536
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:13:43 -
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However they should still tell us what they've been up to because after all, they did ask for the job, repeatedly and at length, even after being warned in person and face to face.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
236
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:18:00 -
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Right Here |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
21884
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:45:44 -
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Torxx Maxx wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Koba Kyogen wrote:I don't see anything here, for us. Nice that you seek them out, but they aren't reporting here - where it matters. Here is one of the last places that matter. How many people are reached through this place? Even CCP sometimes don't post here, while they post information elsewhere. Reddit, their own blogs, Twitter and other third party social networks provide a wider audience than the forum. We are all just the nut jobs here and a very small group within the community. One alliance wide evemail by some members of the CSM would reach more people than a post in the forum. If that's true why does CCP have a forum at all, may as well shout out my damn window instead.
I would not recommend shouting half the stuff I post on the forums out my window in my neighborhood.. or in my office..
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1704
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Posted - 2015.06.16 00:38:11 -
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It doesn't matter who is in CSM right now.
Jump fatigue got a mixed reaction. Fozzie SOV is mostly been put down as terrible but Fozzie is really confident that he knows best after Phoebe. Overview icons, CSM said they need to change and were assured that the first set was just a demonstration but nothing changed and they came out just as they are.
Et cetera.
Basically, CSM is a publicity stunt to let the players feel empowered, while being ignored this year.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
303
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Posted - 2015.06.16 00:44:51 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:It doesn't matter who is in CSM right now.
Jump fatigue got a mixed reaction. Fozzie SOV is mostly been put down as terrible but Fozzie is really confident that he knows best after Phoebe. Overview icons, CSM said they need to change and were assured that the first set was just a demonstration but nothing changed and they came out just as they are.
Et cetera.
Basically, CSM is a publicity stunt to let the players feel empowered, while being ignored this year.
Yep, tried to inform these guys but they really think CSM has power, they're puppets.. CCP says its going to do, invites CSM to comment on it, then goes right on doing what they wanted to do in the 1st place.
this what happens when they the CSM doesn't offer any value to the game at all except of course to make sure perks are given to its own interest.. which it has in the past as its currently still doing now. |
Ripblade Falconpunch
Centurion Logistics
180
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Posted - 2015.06.16 01:06:01 -
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Chance Ravinne (yeah I forgot who he is also, don't feel bad) is very busy making ISK by writing crappy articles for Crossing Zebras about how awesome he is.... |
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
251
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Posted - 2015.06.16 03:01:08 -
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HA HA HA!!! The CSM is bogus. It's window dressing for CCP to claim it has player input. CSM proudly doesn't represent the player base. They not only say so, they brag about it. The ones they DO represent tell us, "If you want someone to represent YOU, elect somebody!" The less we see of the CSM the better.
Now, if we can only get CCP to stop insulting us with announcements about their fabulous meetings and how "helpful" they were to guide CCP toward doing what CCP was going to do ANYWAY.
Here's to not being duped by a public relations stunt.
I survived Win95
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1355
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Posted - 2015.06.16 12:44:19 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:HA HA HA!!! The CSM is bogus. It's window dressing for CCP to claim it has player input. CSM proudly doesn't represent the player base. They not only say so, they brag about it. The ones they DO represent tell us, "If you want someone to represent YOU, elect somebody!" The less we see of the CSM the better. Now, if we can only get CCP to stop insulting us with announcements about their fabulous meetings and how "helpful" they were to guide CCP toward doing what CCP was going to do ANYWAY. Here's to not being duped by a public relations stunt.
While you have a point in regards to the whole lol-voting and hidden agenda stuff, some CSM truly are different. Some actually care for "the greater good" and EVE as a whole. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16541
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Posted - 2015.06.16 14:03:59 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:HA HA HA!!! The CSM is bogus. It's window dressing for CCP to claim it has player input. CSM proudly doesn't represent the player base. They not only say so, they brag about it. The ones they DO represent tell us, "If you want someone to represent YOU, elect somebody!" The less we see of the CSM the better. Now, if we can only get CCP to stop insulting us with announcements about their fabulous meetings and how "helpful" they were to guide CCP toward doing what CCP was going to do ANYWAY. Here's to not being duped by a public relations stunt.
Yes why can't we have PROPER player reps like they have in such Mmos as
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
752
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Posted - 2015.06.16 14:07:52 -
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Milla Goodpussy wrote:They are each still under NDA.. so they cant speak to the public until mittens orders them to :frysquint:
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
776
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Posted - 2015.06.16 14:33:24 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Eve is real. So they will start working when the elections are up again, just like real politicians.
your my favourite
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2250
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Posted - 2015.06.16 15:44:13 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Koba Kyogen wrote:I'm about to file a missing persons report for all members of the CSM.
Where are you guys?
AWOL or just a dereliction of duty? Vets aren't logging in right now, and Iceland has been quiet for over a week.
Where are you guys? maybe if you were more connected you would see their activity. I've seen corbex, steve and sugar all take part in discussions in the past two days. Just because they don't seek you out doesn't mean they aren't doing things.
Do they take part in discussions on the forums, or on their personal blogs where they get ad revenue?
Part of their job is community engagement, as we see here part of the community is expressing concern that they're not doing their requirement...
Hello, world!
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
252
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Posted - 2015.06.16 17:01:36 -
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Malcanis wrote:Otso Bakarti wrote:HA HA HA!!! The CSM is bogus. It's window dressing for CCP to claim it has player input. CSM proudly doesn't represent the player base. They not only say so, they brag about it. The ones they DO represent tell us, "If you want someone to represent YOU, elect somebody!" The less we see of the CSM the better. Now, if we can only get CCP to stop insulting us with announcements about their fabulous meetings and how "helpful" they were to guide CCP toward doing what CCP was going to do ANYWAY. Here's to not being duped by a public relations stunt. Yes why can't we have PROPER player reps like they have in such Mmos as Uh huh? You were saying? What game claims the same? I'm all "ears".
I survived Win95
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Jayne Fillon
719
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Posted - 2015.06.18 03:23:10 -
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Huh, no one else from CSM has shown up here.
Beyond Mike Azariah I'm unsure if anyone currently on the CSM is an active participant on the official forums, I only browse it periodically myself and rarely post. Depending on which "circle" you're involved with (alliance, forums, podcasts, blogs, reddit, etc) you will probably be exposed to a different subset of CSM members who use that medium as well. The majority of CSM10 members are active this year and despite a slow start I feel like we've been making good progress.
If you want to get in touch with the CSM, follow this link: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=414710&find=unread
Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.
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Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
2822
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Posted - 2015.06.18 04:24:04 -
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And even expecting ME to hit GD everyday is a bit much, no?
I have been in the threadnaughts, there are blogs, there have been soundclouds . . .
sweet mercy, what do you want, hand delivered summaries of the days activities?
Summer will be more quiet. Iceland likes its summers takes advantage of that. We will be girding our loins and preparing for the first summit at the end of summer. (Yes, I am going to it) so this would be a good time to ask for things you want us to talk to CCP about.
unless, of course, you subscribe to the negative folks above who are positive that I am part of a huge publicity scam.
then why would you even wonder where we are? No, you hope and maybe believe we are something, we do something, or you wouldnt ask. But General discussion? No, lots of the csm choose not to step into this. Some speak only to their own 'constituents' and brain trusts.
for better or worse, you're mine.
god help us all
m
Mike Azariah Gö¼GöÇGöÇGö¼n++ ¯|(pâä)/¯
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Grinder2210
Most Unknown
36
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Posted - 2015.06.18 05:56:52 -
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Mike Azariah wrote: what do you want, hand delivered summaries of the days activities?
Please and could i also have your first born while your at it Make sure the liver is good im going to need one |
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