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Jin Tylena
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Posted - 2006.11.24 23:58:00 -
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Cormorant:
Structure: 677
Armor: 625
Shield: 782
Powergrid: 55
Flycather:
Structure: 651
Armor: 600
Shield: 751
Powergrid: 54
10% more Thermal Resist on shield and armor...
Tell me these are not the final numbers... why the t2 version has less hps? 
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.25 00:25:00 -
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Tech 2 is getting less of an HP bonus because of its innate resists, better firepower.
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Jin Loe
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Posted - 2006.11.25 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jin Loe on 25/11/2006 00:49:35
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.25 01:20:00 -
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When you remeber that resists are % based, the fact they're getting a 25% smaller HP boost (or whatever the final numbers are) doesn't mean theyre getting 25% less boost.
I'm no maths wizzard, but, roughly speaking, 25% HP at 85% resistance is worth, equivalently, 20% more than 25% at 65% resistance. In fact, you could even say its worth 45% total increase (equivalent).
So if they'd increased T2 HP by the same amount as T1, they'd have ben giving them quite quite a considerable boost, making them pull even futher away from their T1 equiavlents.
See? Ish?
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Hoshi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.25 01:31:00 -
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That would be true if it really had hac like resists but it doesn't. Just 10% more on 2 resists.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.25 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 25/11/2006 01:44:10
This is true, I am thinking of HACs...........
I dunno then. Nerfing interdictors would be bad, seeing as they're pretty well balanced ATM.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.11.25 02:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
Tech 2 is getting less of an HP bonus because of its innate resists, better firepower.
a flycatcher has better firepower than a cormorat? what version of eve are you playing?
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 02:03:00 -
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Dictors aint ment to fight just to drop a bubble and get the feck away.. Unless of course your killing newbs in shuttles and t1 frigs.. 
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Jin Tylena
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Posted - 2006.11.25 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jin Tylena on 25/11/2006 02:27:40
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Dictors aint ment to fight just to drop a bubble and get the feck away.. Unless of course your killing newbs in shuttles and t1 frigs..
Well... Covert Ops aint meant to fight and have more HPs than their T1 version, way more...
Heron:
Structure: 226
Armor: 258
Shield: 274
Buzzard:
Structure: 316
Armor: 316
Shield: 528
Rest of interdictors:
Coercer:
Structure: 730
Armor: 782
Shield: 625
Heretic:
Structure: 700
Armor: 751
Shield: 600
Catalyst:
Structure: 782
Armor: 730
Shield: 677
Eris:
Structure: 751
Armor: 700
Shield: 651
Thraser:
Structure: 625
Armor: 677
Shield: 730
Sabre:
Structure: 600
Armor: 651
Shield: 700
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Marlenus
Caldari
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2006.11.25 02:31:00 -
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If I recall, the stats on the Tech I versus Tech II destroyers aren't all that different pre-patch, either. I remember doing a close comparison about a month ago and being surprised at how similar the base armor, shields, etc. were. Yeah, there was a Tech II upgrade, but way smaller than in other ship classes.
One big difference not mentioned here is that the Tech II destroyers are almost twice as fast as the Tech Is.
Lemme look in the database. Yup, currently:
Thrasher:
Shield: 438
Armor: 406
Speed: 240m/s
Sabre:
Shield 525
Armor 488
Speed: 455m/s
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 02:35:00 -
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Cov ops have to be able to withstand a bit of fire after they uncloak to tackle a ship for the gang to kill.. Rare but it happens.. Dictors on the other hand are designed to just shoot a bubble 'n scoot.. If I was a dictor pilot I would leave all weapons off and maximize the speed and tank..
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.25 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Edited by: Patch86 on 25/11/2006 01:44:10
This is true, I am thinking of HACs...........
I dunno then. Nerfing interdictors would be bad, seeing as they're pretty well balanced ATM.
i wouldnt call destroyers having more HP then dictors a nerf though, Destroyers needed love anyway.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.25 04:24:00 -
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Indeed.. and with the near cruiser sig they need near cruiser hp.. Still a ways to go I think.. Even after Rev dessys are kinda thin hp wise.. How about dropping the tracking bonus for a hp per level and bigger optimal bonus? Dessys are all long range so a tracking bonus is kinda redundant.. Especially for frig guns..
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Aphotic Raven
Gallente
Spectral Armada
Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.25 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Dictors aint ment to fight just to drop a bubble and get the feck away.. Unless of course your killing newbs in shuttles and t1 frigs..
Exactly, the "new" form of pvp in eve is only for people who pay for 2 accounts so that they can have a dictor.. that and people in 20 man gank packs.
Hurray for nerfing solo pvp.
(oh im sure interceptors will get plenty of fights.. but they are ****.. no one wants to use them exclusively =/ )
Quote:
Melicien Tetro: I tried to fight a shark with a pistol underwater once, and I'll be ****ed if he didn't laugh at me and eat me. Sharks need a ******* nerf. True story
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Rafein
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.25 11:45:00 -
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It's more of a role design, I would think.
Destroyers are made to actually fight, they are supposed to be anti-frigate support ships, and not have the HP to actually outlast a frig.
Dictors are not made to fly with the fleet, and slug it out with other ships. They are made to drop in, bubble, and get out.
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