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Reizwasche
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.27 08:55:37 -
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Just bought a partially researched Thanny blueprint, it hasnt been researched much but i got it at base price.
Thinking about researching it for a small return, whats a good "selling" me/te?
Maybe 8/16 for ~2bil or something?
Looking for help with pricing and research ranges because im new to this market |
Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem Renegades Of Silence
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Posted - 2015.06.27 11:46:00 -
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I do Capital BPO research for profit from time to time, and usually, before purchasing any BPOs, I check the current contracts, calculate the time for my aimed ME/TE and crunch all the numbers into a spreadsheet. I brought my last batch up to 8/10 before setting up the contracts, and the profit was good, considering the little effort it took. TE doesn't seem to be that important on Capital Ship BPOs, they take over a week per run in an assembly array anyway, and higher TE doesn't reduce the production time that much. ME seems more important, 8 or 9 seems to be the optimum (9 takes quite long, I usually don't bother with more than ME 8). |
Poxs62
StarTrucks Prometheus Allegiance
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Posted - 2015.06.27 23:37:01 -
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Reizwasche wrote:Just bought a partially researched Thanny blueprint, it hasnt been researched much but i got it at base price.
Thinking about researching it for a small return, whats a good "selling" me/te?
Maybe 8/16 for ~2bil or something?
Looking for help with pricing and research ranges because im new to this market
In all honesty anything below 9 most producers wont be intersted in, and atm me9pe12 is going for 2.1b (its me selling one)
Yes you might get some part time or new-bro to the line of work buy it, but may not sell for sometime, i would recommend me9 and do this in a pos with the relevant implants etc to reduce times dramatically. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.06.28 06:17:46 -
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2015.06.28 09:07:47 -
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I think people will generally be looking for ME10 as a minimum value and probably at least TE10 or 12 on any 'cap' type/sized BPO. Profit ratios are quite tight so you have to look to every saving. Since Crius it isn't cheap to do the highest levels of research with job costs running into hundreds of millions of ISK even at POS arrays with nearly zero SCI. Not to mention the time involved which is over a couple of months or more.
To my mind the previous system was better - cheers Greyscale! - even though at the time it didn't seem so good. 'The grass is greener..........' .
" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. "-áRick.
" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
Season four.-á-á ' The Walking Dead. ' .
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Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem Renegades Of Silence
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:15:57 -
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:I think people will generally be looking for ME10 as a minimum value and probably at least TE10 or 12 on any 'cap' type/sized BPO. Profit ratios are quite tight so you have to look to every saving. Since Crius it isn't cheap to do the highest levels of research with job costs running into hundreds of millions of ISK even at POS arrays with nearly zero SCI. Not to mention the time involved which is over a couple of months or more.
To my mind the previous system was better - cheers Greyscale! - even though at the time it didn't seem so good. 'The grass is greener..........' .
Nope, ME 10 is not really desired, at least not for the person doing the research. For capital modules, maybe, but capital ship BPOs take about a year of research for ME 10, and it's not really worth doing that if you want to just sell them. |
Reizwasche
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:33:38 -
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Selaria Unbertable wrote:Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:I think people will generally be looking for ME10 as a minimum value and probably at least TE10 or 12 on any 'cap' type/sized BPO. Profit ratios are quite tight so you have to look to every saving. Since Crius it isn't cheap to do the highest levels of research with job costs running into hundreds of millions of ISK even at POS arrays with nearly zero SCI. Not to mention the time involved which is over a couple of months or more.
To my mind the previous system was better - cheers Greyscale! - even though at the time it didn't seem so good. 'The grass is greener..........' . Nope, ME 10 is not really desired, at least not for the person doing the research. For capital modules, maybe, but capital ship BPOs take about a year of research for ME 10, and it's not really worth doing that if you want to just sell them.
I figured, maybe null alliances with lots of time and doing cap production research their own bpos or something but it seems like a big waste. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.06.30 05:31:19 -
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Just to blow a few minds with trivia... did you know that all movies on IMDB are rated out of 10, except for this one movie that is rated out of 11
Oh, and all my capital BPO are researched to 10. The most painful was the Rorqual at 3.5 billion ISK for just ME 10. Only recommended for those of us with CDO (that's OCD in proper alphabetical order). |
Aker Krane
OMEGADYNE LABS Rising Darkness
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Posted - 2015.07.23 14:25:00 -
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I would go and look at the difference in production costs of a Thanatos at ME 8 and then look at it at ME 10. Not sure why anyone would bother building a Thanatos at ME 8.....ever.
You can easily buy ME 10 BPCS from contracts for less than the build cost difference. Unless build costs or mineral usage is not a factor, I am not sure who you are selling these things too.
This is the case for most all capital ships.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.07.23 17:34:22 -
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Aker Krane wrote:I would go and look at the difference in production costs of a Thanatos at ME 8 and then look at it at ME 10. Not sure why anyone would bother building a Thanatos at ME 8.....ever.
You can easily buy ME 10 BPCS from contracts for less than the build cost difference. Unless build costs or mineral usage is not a factor, I am not sure who you are selling these things too.
This is the case for most all capital ships. The people that build from BPO differ from those that build from purchased BPC. |
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2015.07.24 05:51:02 -
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Selaria Unbertable wrote:Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:I think people will generally be looking for ME10 as a minimum value and probably at least TE10 or 12 on any 'cap' type/sized BPO. Profit ratios are quite tight so you have to look to every saving. Since Crius it isn't cheap to do the highest levels of research with job costs running into hundreds of millions of ISK even at POS arrays with nearly zero SCI. Not to mention the time involved which is over a couple of months or more.
To my mind the previous system was better - cheers Greyscale! - even though at the time it didn't seem so good. 'The grass is greener..........' . Nope, ME 10 is not really desired, at least not for the person doing the research. For capital modules, maybe, but capital ship BPOs take about a year of research for ME 10, and it's not really worth doing that if you want to just sell them.
I was referring more to eg Capital Construction Part BPOs rather than capital ship BPOs. But even with capital ship BPOs I think you will ideally want ME10. Thanks to CCP Greyscale it is really hard now to max out research on these kind of BPOs. Strike that - not so much hard as very time consuming and over-expensive.
" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. "-áRick.
" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
Season four.-á-á ' The Walking Dead. ' .
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
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Posted - 2015.07.24 05:58:29 -
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We bought a ME10 TE16 BPO recently and researched it further to ME10 TE18 but going to TE20 would be prohibitive. I looks better to have things maxed out but that may be a little 'OCD' on my part. Saved a lot of ISK by using a POS to do the job which is now complete. Going from TE18 to TE20 nowadays would be extremely expensive especially at a NPC station. 'Crius' essentially set a cut off point which separates people into those who have max researched BPOs and those who don't.
" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. "-áRick.
" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
Season four.-á-á ' The Walking Dead. ' .
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Bed Bugg
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.30 13:25:20 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote: BPC buyers are likely to be less experienced, and only look at the research level vs. BPC price without delving into the production costs.
Whut? This is a wildly ignorant generalization. |
Chewi Gengod
Demon-War-Lords SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.30 14:44:04 -
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http://eve.smith-net.org.uk/capital/
Look for capital parts 10 and ship 8 usually. |
Bed Bugg
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.30 16:51:25 -
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Chewi Gengod wrote:http://eve.smith-net.org.uk/capital/
Look for capital parts 10 and ship 8 usually.
The tables on that website are incorrect. I did not look at all the tables, but the ones I did look at seem to be using information that is from before Crius.
Fuzzworks has more accurate information.
https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/
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