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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 27/11/2006 04:16:48 I'll be reasonable this time.
The Drake has received its 7th missile back. The Drake can tank. It can do good damage. Some might say that this is over the top. Personally, I don't care as long as other races are able to compete.
Now then: Bring back the Hurricane's 7th turret. This is a gank ship. Having no tank bonus, its tank is weak (average at best). It deserves to be able to do gank-level DPS. Enough said.
So, how about it, CCP?
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:24:00 -
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No, purely for the reason that it's Minmatar.
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus No, purely for the reason that it's Minmatar.
LOL
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:38:00 -
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Come on, guys... have you lost your spirit? Rabble rabble... chop chop...
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:41:00 -
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Its sunday mate.. We all have hangovers and can't be arsed to care atm.. KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |
Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Its sunday mate.. We all have hangovers and can't be arsed to care atm..
Doh... I was just about to go out and start drinking... after getting 3 forum warnings for my last show of bad behaviour...
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Pepperami
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:44:00 -
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I like the caldari online sig.
And yes, can the hurricane please have its turret back.
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K1K1R1K1
Team Machine Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:44:00 -
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I haven't personally tested this ship, but all I know is that 6 slots for a tank is more then a decent tank... ie: brutix. Adding a 7th turret and leaving the rest as is = overpowered.
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:48:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 27/11/2006 04:49:29
Originally by: K1K1R1K1 I haven't personally tested this ship, but all I know is that 6 slots for a tank is more then a decent tank... ie: brutix. Adding a 7th turret and leaving the rest as is = overpowered.
Let me lay this out for you...
First of all the Brutix has 5 low slots. It can tank decently because it has the MAR bonus. This, however, requires the ship to use 2x MAR and use a cap injector. This goes beyond "active tank". This reaches "hyperactive tank" status. The Brutix's tank is also reduced by the fact that it absolutely must use mag stabs to pump out decent damage.
The Hurricane, however, has no tanking bonuses. Yes, it has 6 lowslots. Since this ship has no tanking bonuses, it would be stupid to not use damage mods on it. So - 2 damage mods, a couple of MARs, and a couple of EANMs? *sigh*. It needs more gankage if it is forced to carry that weak of a tank.
In short: The Hurricane is not a tank ship. It can not come NEAR the tank of a Brutix even. Therefore it needs some more gank.
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami I like the caldari online sig.
TY!
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Sal Alo
Minmatar The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:57:00 -
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I have to leave my country for work so I don't think I'll have spare time for writing here but I'll pay someone for whining for me if hurrican doesn't get back its 7¦ turret
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sal Alo I have to leave my country for work so I don't think I'll have spare time for writing here but I'll pay someone for whining for me if hurrican doesn't get back its 7¦ turret
o7
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murder one
Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.27 05:20:00 -
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Give the Hurricane it's 7th turret back.
Because I said so...
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Give the Hurricane it's 7th turret back.
\o/
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.27 05:25:00 -
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I agree on this one.. Drake got its launcher back and the Myr got a drone bay boost so give the Minnies some lovin too.. Now to just get the Harb a better bonus to Damage.. KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |
murder one
Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.27 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: murder one Give the Hurricane it's 7th turret back.
\o/
frankly I don't see why everyone always flames me. I like that the Drake got it's launcher back. It makes it a better ship. I like that the Rokh is good. I like that the Harb has a damage bonus now. And I think that the Hurricane should be cool as well. I just hate it when people ruin the balance between ships, or change the design to the point that it horribly cripples ship types/setups.
Because I said so...
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Xori Ruscuv
Originally by: murder one Give the Hurricane it's 7th turret back.
\o/
frankly I don't see why everyone always flames me. I like that the Drake got it's launcher back. It makes it a better ship. I like that the Rokh is good. I like that the Harb has a damage bonus now. And I think that the Hurricane should be cool as well. I just hate it when people ruin the balance between ships, or change the design to the point that it horribly cripples ship types/setups.
Hey I'm right there with you, man.
People just think Gallente = Drone+NOS+ECM, and they forget that there are people who prefer Blasters.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.27 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: murder one frankly I don't see why everyone always flames me.
I don't flame you.. I just ask for a bit more detail of your reasoning than you usually give out in a post.. KALI:Revelations.. Putting the Waaaa back in Piwat.. |
Atar
Perpetua Umbra Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2006.11.27 06:22:00 -
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Lets put it this way.
22000 shields, 438 (if i remember correct) recharge and 7 tech2 Heavy assault launchers, heck even a small nos fits not to mention resists (and it can get better then this).
Or
Oh and you can get a myrmidon that tanks like mad, fit 6 (Same as hurricane) tech2 425 Autos and 2 gyros in low plus 5 ogres = Hurricane damage (No gyros, but tank on 'Cane) PLUS drones.
If the problem is the Sleipnir, then fix it and leave the Hurricane alone with 7 turrets!
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 06:43:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 27/11/2006 06:46:11
Originally by: Atar
Oh and you can get a myrmidon that tanks like mad, fit 6 (Same as hurricane) tech2 425 Autos and 2 gyros in low plus 5 ogres = Hurricane damage (No gyros, but tank on 'Cane) PLUS drones.
I don't mind reasoanble criticque of the Myrmidon. However, 99% of the drivel out there is not reasonable.
Here's why: - Large gun fittings on such a ship are rarely prudent, since the fittings won't allow it. - Using 5 large drones is not prudent in any real PVP scenarion. There are no spares. There is no damage type switching. It just isn't smart. - Using ACs on the myr isn't smart, even with the gyros. - I know people complain about the drone scooping thing. Doing a rapid scooping/deployment should be worked about with OTHER game mechanics. It is not a reason to nerf a ship. Besides, in PVP scenarios that demand finesse, this is not really a valid strategy. I mean... it is absolutely BRUTAL on one's DPS, and drones bug out easily.
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Trojanman190
Caldari Entropy Tech. Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.27 07:11:00 -
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Bring it back.
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Atar
Perpetua Umbra Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2006.11.27 07:13:00 -
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Why wouldn't you use ACs on the myr, it has no bonus to any weapon, I can make an almost cap independent ship with ACs don't like 425's use 220's all the same. Drones I agree, using 5 heavy is silly buy we all know people will do it, again use mediums it's still extra DPS.
I know the myr gets a repairer bonus, but try a passive shield tank you might just be suprised, I know I suprised a few other myrs on sisi.
I am by no means flaming you just throwing the idea out there
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Atar Why wouldn't you use ACs on the myr, it has no bonus to any weapon, I can make an almost cap independent ship with ACs don't like 425's use 220's all the same.
Because NOS is more powerful than any gun atm :(
I think the key to balancing NOS is to fix cap use of existing items in the game. Ie. changing anything about NOS is not the answer.
Ships that don't need/can't fit guns (like drone ships) need to be able to use NOS but not having going around WTFPWNING people. People who can't fit NOS need to not be totally screwed by not fitting NOS. It makes me so angry that I'm going to end up having to put NOS on my blasterships to make them viable. Call it adapting - call it what you like - but I call it "SUCK!!!!!"
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Omatje
Minmatar Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.27 11:32:00 -
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Yes, give it back pls.
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murder one
Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.27 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: murder one frankly I don't see why everyone always flames me.
I don't flame you.. I just ask for a bit more detail of your reasoning than you usually give out in a post..
Sorry, I guess I just assume that everyone else out there can do the math in their head and run everything out to it's logical conclusion. Not being coy here. That's just how I generally think. I guess what is so obvious to me isn't as much so to others. Heck, I even put some numbers together for my rail/sniper post and people still flamed me.
Because I said so...
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violator2k5
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.27 11:42:00 -
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i myself am saying no leave it as it is due to the abusive behaviour of Xori Ruscuv last night in a different thread
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Vim
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2006.11.27 11:43:00 -
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O CCP whom art in Iceland, hallowed be Thy Name. Thy vision come, thy will be done, on earth, as it is in eve. Give us this day our 7th turret, and forgive us our whining, as we forgive the amarr whom trespass against us. And lead us not into nerfage, but deliver us from twinks. amen. /* Teach a rookie today watch him takedown a battleship tomorrow... */ |
Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 27/11/2006 11:48:37
Originally by: violator2k5 i myself am saying no leave it as it is due to the abusive behaviour of Xori Ruscuv last night in a different thread
That's HIIIILLAAARIOUS my friend! Screw all Minmatar users because ONE of us decided to get drunk and run off at the mouth on the forums.
Puuhleeze.
I'm the fifth that *I* know of to recieve forum warnings while arguing with people who don't understand the first thing about game balance about Minmatar ships. I know of two who have recieved forum bans.
Not to say that my actions were defensible. HAH!
But you, my friend - are no better. Willing to impune an entire group because one of us is a jackass...
QQ MORE!
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.27 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vim O CCP whom art in Iceland, hallowed be Thy Name. Thy vision come, thy will be done, on earth, as it is in eve. Give us this day our 7th turret, and forgive us our whining, as we forgive the amarr whom trespass against us. And lead us not into nerfage, but deliver us from twinks. amen.
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murder one
Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.27 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv Edited by: Xori Ruscuv on 27/11/2006 11:48:37
Originally by: violator2k5 i myself am saying no leave it as it is due to the abusive behaviour of Xori Ruscuv last night in a different thread
That's HIIIILLAAARIOUS my friend! Screw all Minmatar users because ONE of us decided to get drunk and run off at the mouth on the forums.
Puuhleeze.
I'm the fifth that *I* know of to recieve forum warnings while arguing with people who don't understand the first thing about game balance about Minmatar ships. I know of two who have recieved forum bans.
Not to say that my actions were defensible. HAH!
But you, my friend - are no better. Willing to impune an entire group because one of us is a jackass...
QQ MORE!
I have at least two warnings that I can remember...
Because I said so...
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