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Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.11 20:33:39 -
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Ive recently come back to the game after a bit of a break and i thought i would try doing something new that i hadn't before.
Drone boats !
My main focus atm is PVE in high sec so i have kitted up a Vexor to do some level 1's and 2's and learned tons of skills to boost drone abilities but im still a week away from tech 2's drones. I have been looking all day for a decent ship to do 3's and 4's in and some incursions as well. Preferably a ship where i can make use of my drone skills if poss, if not, then i will adapt.
I'm led to believe drone boats arent so great for incursions so ill probably target 2 ships one for missions and one for incursions as i do really like drone boats and i dont want to have all the time ive invested in learning the skills to go to waste. Unless ofc there is a ship that can a reasonable amount of dps with drones and still be effective at both missions and incursions.
I dont have access to a lot of the tech 2 stuff as yet but its something i am working heavily towards.
What i am looking for are a few examples of 2-3 ships that are recommended for incursions, level 3-4 missions or both roles and then a few reasons why they would be better at this job than others and if possible t1/t2 fits that might do the job so i can down or upgrade where appropriate.
Please keep any discussions friendly and if you disagree with anything posted, please provide evidence as to why your argument is valid.
Thanks in advance |
elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
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Posted - 2015.07.11 20:54:40 -
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Drones are all the rage these days, you are on the right track - well at least for doing level 1-4 combat missions.
Stay with Gallente ships for now and train Caldari a little later, since they will open you up for Gurista ships, I promise you want them.
Now since Incursions are almost as easy as level 3 missions.. - no I'm just messing with you here.
Whomever gave you the impression that drones would be a good idea for Incursions, please pod him or her! Drones do not belong in Incursions. You cannot compare the Incursion NPCs to regular NPCs. Incursion NPCs will kill all drones of any size so quckly that you don't even remember bringing any.
For Incursions you want a turret boat, so stay with Gallente and train Amarr after training Caldari. This will open you up for True Sansha ships. Any Incursion fleet will want another Nightmare in their midst.
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Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.11 22:20:13 -
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elitatwo wrote: Whomever gave you the impression that drones would be a good idea for Incursions, please pod him or her! Drones do not belong in Incursions.
Thanks for your response, but i think you may have mis understood part of what i typed or perhaps it was my bad wording but i did say "i am led to believe drone boats AREN'T great in Incursions" :P
So i can aim for a nightmare for incursions as its only 4 days of training to get into one and i'll only need to train Amar as i have the other factions already. Getting decent mods to fit it however could be another story altogether.
I did think of the Ishtar for missions, but there's 2 months of training needed to get into that also. Any particular ships you would recommend for missions and incursions for the short term? |
Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.11 22:56:29 -
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How is that ever possible you've missed Dominix? Space potatoe been here for ages and it's still one of the best drone boats no matter how good Gurista is.
In terms of drones skills learned, you probably doing it wrong cause T2 smalls and mediums are easy affordable. |
Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.11 23:21:44 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:How is that ever possible you've missed Dominix? Space potatoe been here for ages and it's still one of the best drone boats no matter how good Gurista is.
In terms of drones skills learned, you probably doing it wrong cause T2 smalls and mediums are easy affordable.
Well, i never said i'd actually missed it. I said i was after some recommendations. Ive seen various people suggest different things and yes the Dominix was one that i had seen suggested but so many people have so many different opinions and never justify it so i came and asked for an opinion here.
The drone skills ive learned have all been what was recommended from http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Vexor and i have all of those listed at at least 4, so if im doing it wrong, then so are they :)
Also, i never said small or medium drones weren't affordable, i said i was still learning the skills.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.11 23:57:09 -
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There are not that many drone boats so your choice is pretty much obvious. |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
1212
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Posted - 2015.07.12 00:14:36 -
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vanguard sites can be done in gilas and the hp bonus of the drones means the rats will barely scratch them |
Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.12 01:19:02 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:There are not that many drone boats so your choice is pretty much obvious.
There are plenty of ships that will do the job i am wanting it for, but im not after just any old drone boat
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.12 01:43:08 -
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Zia Revan wrote:Tiddle Jr wrote:There are not that many drone boats so your choice is pretty much obvious. There are plenty of ships that will do the job i am wanting it for, but im not after just any old drone boat
Zia Revan wrote: Drone boats !
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Orlacc
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Posted - 2015.07.12 01:55:12 -
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Dominix is the best drone hull to learn in, Cheap and runs L3s and L4s fine.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.12 01:55:18 -
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The gila is a monster at PvE and PvP.
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2015.07.12 05:30:19 -
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Rattlesnake |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2015.07.12 06:35:14 -
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I like T3Ds for level 3s and RS for level 4s.
Oh god.
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Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.12 09:17:28 -
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So thats 2 for Rattlesnake, 2 for Gila and 2 for Dominix so far |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2015.07.12 10:44:03 -
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For L3s you might consider the Vexor Navy, For L4s you'll probably find the Dominix easiest - though in the longer term you might want to consider the Ishtar (it's being gradually nerfed at present so that may not be true for too long but...
For Incursions I would certainly aim for the Nightmare but if you wished to speed things up you might consider (as you're training Gallente already) the Vindicator (Gallente + Minmatar skills) - the Nightmare may be the effective backbone of an Incusion fleet's DPS wing but the Vindicator is generally what wins you contests and so is probably about as sought after. |
Do Little
Red Frog Freight Red-Frog
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Posted - 2015.07.12 12:37:12 -
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Gila can run level 3 & 4 missions, can also run DED 3/10 and 4/10 complexes. Since you will be training Caldari cruiser anyway, why not continue and skill for Basilisk? Incursion communities always looking for logistics pilots. This plan will also put you within easy reach of Tengu - though your drone skills won't help much with that ship. |
Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.12 16:05:18 -
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I dont really have any plans to go for a Tengu or a Basilisk at all im afraid. At least not atm anyway. As i said in the OP, i want something that will utilise my drone skills such as the Gila or Dominix for example |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Senex Legio The Old Contemptibles
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Posted - 2015.07.12 16:18:06 -
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For Level IIIs, a Myrmidon should also chew them pretty easily. It gets an armor rep bonus, as well as bonus to drones. Put whatever weapon type you want on it, since those aren't bonused. Some folks like projectile (Arty/ACs) due to capless weapons and selectable damage, but YMMV.
"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"
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Sheeth Athonille
Planets Don't Orbit...
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Posted - 2015.07.12 19:23:31 -
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I would recommend a dominix for level 4's, or a rattlesnake if you feel like splurging.
For incursions, as was said earlier, drone boats aren't particularly liked. I know Warp To Me will accept them, but they greatly encourage switching to a turret ship. I would personally recommend the vindicator, especially if you have hybrid skills.
Oh and I don't think anyone mentioned the Ishtar? Not sure how badly the recent nerf hurt its missioning potential, but it should still be good for lvl 4's, and it'll crush any lvl 3's. It is a t2 ship though so it'll take a while to train into. |
Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.13 00:30:46 -
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All the feedback has been greatly appreciated but i decided to opt for a Gila for now until i can level some sKillZ up. As i said in the OP, main aim is for level 3-4 missions and possibly some incursions 2.
Now its just time to figure out some fits! |
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Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:18:33 -
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OK, ive found various fits online, some look bad, some look weird and seen some that do seem to make sense. So i've taken what i feel/guess will work and a little bit of my reasoning behind the choices.
Rigs
3x Medium core defense field purger I - seems to have been the most popular way to go
Highs
4 x Protoype Arbalest Rapid light Missile Launchers + Scourge + inferno light missiles (10% KInetic and thermal dmg) - Was going to use Heavy assaults but CPU was an issue
Drone link Augmentor - 20km extra range for drones. Nuff said
Mediums
This was where i had some issues with choice so just went for something simple in the end
Large F-s9 Regolith Shield Extender x2 Took these over standard LSE's as less cpu/power to run and bigger shield
10MN afterburnet II - standard t2 afterburner
Drone Navigation Comp I - 25% quicker for drones to pewpew
Adaptive invulnerability field x2 - Put 1 in, couldnt think of anything for the last slot so put another one in as the tooltip says "boosts shield resistance against all damage types" so shud have most my bases covered hopefully
Lows
There was a 50-50 choice here so i carry a Damage Control I also and swap it out a DDA for more tank. Situational
Drone damage Amplifier I x3
Ballistic Control System I
Ok some feedback on the fit would be helpful, if you do think ive made some bad choices please explain briefly why you think my choice was bad, as anyone that is critical without justification probably wont get listened to im afraid :P
Thanks in advance for any helpful comments
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Chlori Venn
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.13 21:26:55 -
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I cant see anything wrong with it personally. The way i see it, as long as it does the job you want it for stick with it like that. If you feel like your struggling in it then have a rethink :) |
Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.14 13:17:07 -
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Yeah ok, ill give it a go as is and see how i get on. Thanks for the pointer :) |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.07.14 13:33:15 -
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might be a good time to hit up eft or pyfa and start learning how to use them |
Zia Revan
Arkenstone Mining Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:37:48 -
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Aye probly a good idea m8 ty |
Thron Legacy
White Zulu Scorpion Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.23 02:12:38 -
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shield regen rigs and a ******* damage control II, and you'll be fine |
zippy1963
Air The Initiative.
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Posted - 2015.07.23 11:44:25 -
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Seriously it depends on skills and ISK available.
If you are lowish skill set and isk then stay on the gallente route and go vexor / myrmidon / domi.
Once you have the skills for drones and a good tank, cross train for caldari and get some missile skills behind you and from then on get a rattlesnake.
If ISK isnt an issue, get your self into a gila ASAP then train for a Rattlesnake.
Personally I love the Ishtar tho as its PvE on "Easy lay back in your arm chair sipping on a bud mode" (well till another nerf ) |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.25 04:20:37 -
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Droneboats are good for semi-afk pve. If you want to earn lots of isk then you need to go for turret based ships.
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2015.07.25 09:27:17 -
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baltec1 wrote:Droneboats are good for semi-afk pve. If you want to earn lots of isk then you need to go for turret based ships.
This is very true.
L4 missions take me a little longer to complete with my Gila than they do with my Tengu.
For Incursions you can't go wrong with a Nightmare .. vertical + spikey bits + lazorsofultimatedoom!! |
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