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GordonO
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Posted - 2015.07.12 01:49:38 -
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Want a quick easy kill, there is an iteron 5 trying to get out of the carthum station in Pimebeka IV - Moon 1 . Pilots name is Aaron Belmont. I would be more than grateful(yes iskies for you) to see he doesn't get far. I suspect he will wait till I log before trying again, or I would do it myself.
oh yea, reason. he is a corp thief.. so recruiters beware
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Freya Sertan
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
436
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Posted - 2015.07.12 03:22:40 -
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Gonna need some info and proof of this theft before doing a thing. It's just way too easy to claim "omg corp thief" and try to pay someone to kill the target YOU likely pissed off. So, in the manner of the awesome slogan from the 90s, "got proof?"
If you don't have any proof, it'll be 2b to take your target out. 1.5b payable before engagement, 500m paid after delivery of wreck. Corpse is mine to keep.
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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Globby
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2015.07.12 05:55:44 -
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i'll make sure he doesnt leave station for 72 hours for 20 bil. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.12 08:40:11 -
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These are serious accusations of a heinous crime being committed.
This thread should be moved to C&P where a proper investigation and hearing can be conducted and both sides represented by appropriate council.
The truth of this needs be known.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1277
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Posted - 2015.07.12 18:08:52 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:These are serious accusations of a heinous crime being committed.
This requires a proper investigation and hearing with both sides represented by appropriate council.
The truth of this needs be known. The Court is busy with other issues ATM but will look into this case in the morning
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1281
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Posted - 2015.07.13 05:20:51 -
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The Court will now hear case 00010 GordonO vs Aaron Belmont. At this time please provide all evidence of the crime/s and file any claims for compensation from the various parties. The Court will as usual mail all parties involved so they know their rights and obligations. This will also serve as notice in case Nitshe is involved here and has somehow impersonated one or both parties. We shall get to the bottom of who stole the whats and why.
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Domino Vyse
Element Connective
180
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Posted - 2015.07.13 10:39:58 -
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I only work for ISK up-front. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.07.13 14:06:52 -
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Can we make requesting pro bono merc work a crime? It should be a crime. |
takedoom
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
75
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Posted - 2015.07.13 19:12:31 -
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Thanks for the intel. I"ll relay it in all available channels.
http://spinthatdamnship.ytmnd.com/
I am not a thief. I am a treasure hunter.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1287
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Posted - 2015.07.13 21:04:19 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Can we make requesting pro bono merc work a crime? It should be a crime. I think this is likely the best and most reasonable course of action as nobody responded here. Feel free to impose any and all sanctions you see fit against one or both parties
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2755
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Posted - 2015.07.14 04:38:46 -
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Appropriate action has been taken. War is pending. |
GordonO
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Posted - 2015.07.14 07:19:13 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Appropriate action has been taken. War is pending.
why? the dumb ass stole from us.. he has ignored all convo's we know he did.. but thanks for that..
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GordonO
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Posted - 2015.07.14 07:25:18 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Can we make requesting pro bono merc work a crime? It should be a crime. I think this is likely the best and most reasonable course of action as nobody responded here. Feel free to impose any and all sanctions you see fit against one or both parties
meh, I accused, he never came to defend.. so I won right ???
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Kairos Antilles
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.14 10:00:31 -
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So has your thirst for retribution been quenched, or what? |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1297
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Posted - 2015.07.14 13:53:56 -
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GordonO wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Can we make requesting pro bono merc work a crime? It should be a crime. I think this is likely the best and most reasonable course of action as nobody responded here. Feel free to impose any and all sanctions you see fit against one or both parties meh, I accused, he never came to defend.. so I won right ??? Your accusations currently have less evidence provided then the thread which a guy was told by a guy who was told by a different dude that somebody else saw the crime take place... how do you know?
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2756
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:28:30 -
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GordonO wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Appropriate action has been taken. War is pending. why? the dumb ass stole from us.. he has ignored all convo's we know he did.. but thanks for that.. Because you requested that someone do mercenary work for you for free, which I consider a personal grievance. The court has authorized me to impose sanctions as I deem appropriate in response to this grievance.
Whereas your accusation of theft warranted a formal court hearing my personal grievance is more of a civil dispute so the ruling was imidiate. |
Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:37:39 -
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A friend of a friend told me that OP wanted to awox the poor hauler, but he managed to dock in time safely. Then the hauler dude quit the corp and OP got mad.
I dunno if it's true but it seems highly likely. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1298
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:52:34 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:A friend of a friend told me that OP wanted to awox the poor hauler, but he managed to dock in time safely. Then the hauler dude quit the corp and OP got mad.
I dunno if it's true but it seems highly likely. It's a sad day when second hand knowledge (or is that third.. meh) is still the most reliable posted in days...
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:53:44 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:GordonO wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Appropriate action has been taken. War is pending. why? the dumb ass stole from us.. he has ignored all convo's we know he did.. but thanks for that.. Because you requested that someone do mercenary work for you for free, which I consider a personal grievance. The court has authorized me to impose sanctions as I deem appropriate in response to this grievance. Whereas your accusation of theft warranted a formal court hearing my personal grievance is more of a civil dispute so the ruling was imidiate. Without evidence the court will likely impose sanctions of its own next week
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:58:20 -
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After all, making false accusations is criminal in and of itself. |
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:11:05 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:A friend of a friend told me that OP wanted to awox the poor hauler, but he managed to dock in time safely. Then the hauler dude quit the corp and OP got mad.
I dunno if it's true but it seems highly likely. It's a sad day when second hand knowledge (or is that third.. meh) is still the most reliable posted in days...
The awox attempt is for reals. The hauler pilot is a RL cousin of mine. I kept quiet just to see what the OP would say and do. He tried to awox him while he was hauling scordite for the corp. It was a total set up. I may have to dec the guy once Vimsy is done w/ him.... for the family. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.07.14 16:03:16 -
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By all means, do not let me stop you. The more the merrier. |
GordonO
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Posted - 2015.07.14 19:20:52 -
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any of you notice the dwindling numbers of eve players ? you ever wonder how you contribute to this ? ganking, greifing and decking corps who are 80% new players who actually want to try and grow the eve player base.. yea thats helpful.. but hey its all fun
He took the stuff, left the corp and we all know he did it, scanned his hauler as he tried to leave.. but whatever Guess I need to drop corp then as this doesn't impact me.. just me poor corpies who I feel really bad for..
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.07.14 19:53:57 -
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GordonO wrote:any of you notice the dwindling numbers of eve players ? you ever wonder how you contribute to this ? ganking, greifing and decking corps who are 80% new players who actually want to try and grow the eve player base.. yea thats helpful.. but hey its all fun
He took the stuff, left the corp and we all know he did it, scanned his hauler as he tried to leave.. but whatever Guess I need to drop corp then as this doesn't impact me.. just me poor corpies who I feel really bad for.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5504176#post5504221
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:08:50 -
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GordonO wrote:any of you notice the dwindling numbers of eve players ? you ever wonder how you contribute to this ? ganking, greifing and decking corps who are 80% new players who actually want to try and grow the eve player base.. yea thats helpful.. but hey its all fun
He took the stuff, left the corp and we all know he did it, scanned his hauler as he tried to leave.. but whatever Guess I need to drop corp then as this doesn't impact me.. just me poor corpies who I feel really bad for..
Are you the leader of your corp. At first that seemed true, but if you are ditching them this easily, then i'm confused.
Eve numbers are dropping because of ishtard, t3 tanks, sentry archons, off grid boosters and Baltec1 (in no particular order)
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GordonO
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:16:02 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:GordonO wrote:any of you notice the dwindling numbers of eve players ? you ever wonder how you contribute to this ? ganking, greifing and decking corps who are 80% new players who actually want to try and grow the eve player base.. yea thats helpful.. but hey its all fun
He took the stuff, left the corp and we all know he did it, scanned his hauler as he tried to leave.. but whatever Guess I need to drop corp then as this doesn't impact me.. just me poor corpies who I feel really bad for.. Are you the leader of your corp. At first that seemed true, but if you are ditching them this easily, then i'm confused. Eve numbers are dropping because of ishtard, t3 tanks, sentry archons, off grid boosters and Baltec1 (in no particular order)
yea not the leader.. just trying to help out new players where I can.. which is working out quite well this time round I am leaving cause if all you lot are going to do is war dec them because of my comments, my leaving should fix that.. and well they a bunch of pretty decent newbies..
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:18:52 -
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GordonO wrote:Waaa you mean meanies are mean for playing computer games at me. Better abandon ship at the first sign of danger and leave all my friends who I alleged to be leading to the wolves even though I am personally responsible for the danger they are now facing!
If people like you are the ones I am allegedly driving from the game I am doing everyone else a service. |
GordonO
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:23:29 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:GordonO wrote:Waaa you mean meanies are mean for playing computer games at me. Better abandon ship and leave all my friends to the wolves! If people like you are the ones I am allegedly driving from the game I am doing everyone else a service.
nice change, don't care about me.. READ!!!! and I won't be leaving EVE.. perhaps you should go donate isk, ships and heaps of time to new players instead of creating content for yourself..
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Torx Rench
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Posted - 2015.07.14 21:43:59 -
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I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
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GordonO
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Posted - 2015.07.14 23:41:21 -
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Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx
wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..
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Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
470
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Posted - 2015.07.14 23:56:27 -
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I stepped on a Corn Flake, now I'm a Cereal Killer. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1301
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Posted - 2015.07.15 00:47:55 -
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For the record ganking and killing in general of new players in eve positively affects retention
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.07.15 00:54:15 -
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GordonO wrote:Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one.. Seems you spoke out of turn to begin with and now you continue to run your mouth. Maybe you should shut it as you should have from the beginning. One would think you would realize by now, you are not helping, in fact it is quite the opposite.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2015.07.15 01:36:06 -
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Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx That's all well and good but under C&P Law 2 there is a provision for a good story out weighing the need for evidence. So based on that spin us a fun yarn and I'm sure it will go away
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.15 03:06:25 -
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GordonO wrote:Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..
He was civil, courteous even. Adult. He got more than two likes for that. You, on the other hand, have most likely found yourself watchlisted by a number of 'griefers' and 'gankers' who due to your approach to this situation will most likely be eyeing your future career with great interest.
At least it wont be boring.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1186
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Posted - 2015.07.15 11:54:03 -
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GordonO wrote:Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one..
He's stepping up and being accountable for his guys and the action of his guys. That is admired on this forum. It's a corollary to posting with one's main. If you take a a step back and look - we're pretty much the staunch conservative party in eve. It's all about making sure folks do the right thing. We do our best to keep the game right and pure.
Your CEO (well ex ceo at this point) is a good man and seems to be a good leader. He saw a problem (that would be you), he stepped up and took care of it. As it stands, I'll pay Vimsy the dec fee to cancel and pull off his corp. In my view the cancer has been removed so the corp should be allowed to move on in good health and with good wishes.
As noted - it would be appreciated if your CEO provided us with an amusing accounting of the whole situation (I will stress here that we aren't that interested in facts, it's all about the story - factual accounting of events is only mandatory when thanatos carriers are involved)
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2762
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:43:00 -
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These folks can only be described as relentlessly apologetic. I told one of them last night to put in a 100 mil surrender at any time and I'll accept it. I also recommended that if they don't want to do that they have some fun and try and kill some people (set a log off trap for Yuller, he always falls for them). |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1303
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:09:11 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:These folks can only be described as relentlessly apologetic. I told one of them last night to put in a 100 mil surrender at any time and I'll accept it. I also recommended that if they don't want to do that they have some fun and try and kill some people (set a log off trap for Yuller, he always falls for them). I'll remember this next time we go to war
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Justinenough
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:35:48 -
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Hello all
I see a few things here..... Actions taken by some on both sides has led to this corp being WD`cd.
I have Messaged Vimsy in game, but have only just found these postings here in the forum, so I await her Reply.
Often in situations like these the facts get melded into various stories where there is no burdening proof, and people in many ways have "dug themselves" into a hole. Faced with no ladder up, the situation becomes a question of pride, along with its inevitable fall. With respect... this has happened to GoronO
Playing Devils advocate, whilst I am not defending his actions, he acted alone, but from his own`frame of reference`; he thought he was doing right for the corp.... Even though this was not the best path,,,, the `good` intention was there.
Now faced with this situation, the best path is for solution for ALL sides.
There have been, reading previous posts generous offers of bringing this to a conclusion, For those offers and to those people I will thank you... even if the offer is not taken up. I Would propose that If you are serious about the apology Gordon) then you pay the required fee to Vimsy to nullify the WD.
I might suggest that this will be in your favour and show that you are able to make reparations, and with it the respect you would again gain by the Justice community. If you feel that the isk penalty is too high then I would pay 50% if you are willing to compromise.
Ordinarily I would say let the WD run, but as we are only just developing I feel it may be a little too early for some of the new recruits.... The lesson of the inevitable war dec can be played further down the line.
I hope this can go some way to putting closure to this and those involved parties can regain their pride and respect back
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2148
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:41:56 -
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O.O STORIES! We love stories. A good story can save lives or kill thousands depending upon how it is told. We do appreciate the candor here, as many purveyors of C&P are of a mind that respect is something cultivated instead of simply granted. You seem alright, how you proceed from here will directly affect the opinions and regards of the various viewers. Indulge us in our petty desire for gossip, if you would?
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.07.15 15:29:27 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:I'll remember this next time we go to war
Yuller is so absurdly aggressive and belligerent that getting him to aggress something he probably shouldn't isn't that much of an achievement. The holy grail would be to kill Rusty, he basically never dies.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1189
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Posted - 2015.07.15 15:51:54 -
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Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
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Justinenough
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:04:08 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
As you may see from my posting history..... Im somewhat new to Eve postings.... Regarding story, what are the `rules` regarding such a task.... Has it got to be factual about `said cases` or will any erm.......... made up story with in the context of eve do??
All in the attempt of "making this go away".
J |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1305
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:53:02 -
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Justinenough wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
As you may see from my posting history..... Im somewhat new to Eve postings.... Regarding story, what are the `rules` regarding such a task.... Has it got to be factual about `said cases` or will any erm.......... made up story with in the context of eve do?? All in the attempt of "making this go away". J If its a good story about the topic facts be damed.
Noragen Neirfallas, Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Justinenough
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Posted - 2015.07.15 16:55:45 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Justinenough wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
As you may see from my posting history..... Im somewhat new to Eve postings.... Regarding story, what are the `rules` regarding such a task.... Has it got to be factual about `said cases` or will any erm.......... made up story with in the context of eve do?? All in the attempt of "making this go away". J If its a good story about the topic facts be damed. Noragen Neirfallas, Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Thank you your honour...
It may be a good time then to scribe away, seeing that the CCP Gods are having issues with their hamsters.......
J
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Justinenough
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Posted - 2015.07.15 17:37:35 -
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Ok and in true tradition of a good old pirate sea shanty, and for the sake of all to interact and sing along with.... I have this to offer.....
Just joind a corp in the his sec, sector Just joind a corp in the his sec, sector Just joind a corp in the his sec, sector Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Went to the base where the free hang er was Went to the base where the free hang er was Went to the base where the free hang er was Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Had look around and there was **** all in there Had look around and there was **** all in there Had look around and there was **** all in there Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
I logged of cause I wanted dinner I logged of cause I wanted dinner I logged of cause I wanted dinner Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Logged back in and we had a war dec Logged back in and we had a war dec Logged back in and we had a war dec Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Corp mails flew, as we sailed in a **** storm Corp mails flew, as we sailed in a **** storm Corp mails flew, as we sailed in a **** storm Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Firmly at the helm was first mate Gordo Firmly at the helm was first mate Gordo Firmly at the helm was first mate Gordo Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
We crashed on the rocks of the Justice system We crashed on the rocks of the Justice system We crashed on the rocks of the Justice system Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Abandon Corp that was Gordo`s answer Abandon Corp that was Gordo`s answer Abandon Corp that was Gordo`s answer Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Row, Row, is the shout to the newbies Row, Row, is the shout to the newbies Row, Row, is the shout to the newbies
Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Back to a port that is safe from war dec Back to a port that is safe from war dec Back to a port that is safe from war dec
Early in the morning Way hey up she rises way hey up she rises way hey up she rises early in the morning
Yarr
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Domino Vyse
Element Connective
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
144
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Posted - 2015.07.15 18:17:54 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:GordonO wrote:Torx Rench wrote:I apologize for a member of my corp posting in the mercenary forum without my knowledge or consent. This will not be tolerated and will be dealt with personally. I apologize for him wasting your time, as for the hauler who stole from the corp, yes it happened, no he wasn't awoxed because we are friendly fire illegal, and it was under a bil so it's not even worth getting angry about. I apologize on behalf of our corp and one of its members for wasting your time.
Thanks, Torx wow, you got 2 likes for apologizing to griefers and gankers.. good one.. He's stepping up and being accountable for his guys and the action of his guys. That is admired on this forum. It's a corollary to posting with one's main. If you take a a step back and look - we're pretty much the staunch conservative party in eve. It's all about making sure folks do the right thing. We do our best to keep the game right and pure. Your CEO (well ex ceo at this point) is a good man and seems to be a good leader. He saw a problem (that would be you), he stepped up and took care of it. As it stands, I'll pay Vimsy the dec fee to cancel and pull off his corp. In my view the cancer has been removed so the corp should be allowed to move on in good health and with good wishes. As noted - it would be appreciated if your CEO provided us with an amusing accounting of the whole situation (I will stress here that we aren't that interested in facts, it's all about the story - factual accounting of events is only mandatory when thanatos carriers are involved)
Just as an FYI, I left on my own accord... no actions were taken against me by the CEO, I did what I thought was right.. And yea, I must be the problem..
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
144
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:03:49 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Justinenough wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Has anyone asked for a good story to make this all go away yet? I think that would be a grand idea.
As you may see from my posting history..... Im somewhat new to Eve postings.... Regarding story, what are the `rules` regarding such a task.... Has it got to be factual about `said cases` or will any erm.......... made up story with in the context of eve do?? All in the attempt of "making this go away". J I f its a good story about the topic facts be damed. Noragen Neirfallas, Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Welcome to C&P..
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
144
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:08:11 -
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Justinenough wrote:Hello all
I see a few things here..... Actions taken by some on both sides has led to this corp being WD`cd.
I have Messaged Vimsy in game, but have only just found these postings here in the forum, so I await her Reply.
Often in situations like these the facts get melded into various stories where there is no burdening proof, and people in many ways have "dug themselves" into a hole. Faced with no ladder up, the situation becomes a question of pride, along with its inevitable fall. With respect... this has happened to GoronO
Playing Devils advocate, whilst I am not defending his actions, he acted alone, but from his own`frame of reference`; he thought he was doing right for the corp.... Even though this was not the best path,,,, the `good` intention was there.
Now faced with this situation, the best path is for solution for ALL sides.
There have been, reading previous posts generous offers of bringing this to a conclusion, For those offers and to those people I will thank you... even if the offer is not taken up. I Would propose that If you are serious about the apology Gordon) then you pay the required fee to Vimsy to nullify the WD.
I might suggest that this will be in your favour and show that you are able to make reparations, and with it the respect you would again gain by the Justice community. If you feel that the isk penalty is too high then I would pay 50% if you are willing to compromise.
Ordinarily I would say let the WD run, but as we are only just developing I feel it may be a little too early for some of the new recruits.... The lesson of the inevitable war dec can be played further down the line.
I hope this can go some way to putting closure to this and those involved parties can regain their pride and respect back
What do you say GordonO?
Justin NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer..
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Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
474
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:20:16 -
[51] - Quote
GordonO wrote:NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer..
But ganking is ok eh?
Looking 4 Guild
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
144
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:34:57 -
[52] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer.. But ganking is ok eh?
Nope, Don't support it, never done it, but some people deserve it
EDIT-- send a thief to catch a thief and all that
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Valkin Mordirc
1245
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Posted - 2015.07.15 20:40:46 -
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GordonO wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer.. But ganking is ok eh? Nope, Don't support it, never done it, but some people deserve it EDIT-- send a thief to catch a thief and all that
I reeaally hope your a troll or an idiot,
Because you literally harvested the personification of the American Government right there,
TORTURE IS BAD MKAY?
That's why we PAY OTHER people to do it.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1311
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Posted - 2015.07.15 21:39:55 -
[54] - Quote
The Court has decided that there are in fact three parties in this case. The op, the absentee defendant and the corp that has been wronged. I find first of all the defendant guilty of something and something and is sentenced to be shot on site by whoever for his absence. The OP is clearly the villain in this saga. He admits to deep pockets yet won't flex them to save the newbros from the mess he created possibly causing retention issues. Therefore he is fined 2 bil isk in damages playable to his former corp and a further 500 mil to vimsy today's enforcer + expenses she has incurred in delivering him justice.
A special note must be made on the etiquette shown by the wronged corp. Their compelling and factual sea shanty of woe the likes of which have never been heard in this Court has convinced me of the need to start a fund for their newbros which will NOT be managed by Mo. The op and defendant are ordered to match any and all contributions made into this fund. I will personally start this fund with 250mil isk which will be paid to the corp wallet the next time I log on. If the fund is not matched an equal amount will be spent on providing content to these individuals. And by that I mean mostly the OP.
I feel justice was served today
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Torx Rench
Wide Open Throttle
6
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Posted - 2015.07.15 22:09:46 -
[55] - Quote
Thank you Justinenough, you have represented our corp well today, and thank you Noragen, we feel your ruling was just and are thankful for the fund. It will go along way in developing our corp. |
Justinenough
Wide Open Throttle
5
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Posted - 2015.07.15 22:12:57 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:The Court has decided that there are in fact three parties in this case. The op, the absentee defendant and the corp that has been wronged. I find first of all the defendant guilty of something and something and is sentenced to be shot on site by whoever for his absence. The OP is clearly the villain in this saga. He admits to deep pockets yet won't flex them to save the newbros from the mess he created possibly causing retention issues. Therefore he is fined 2 bil isk in damages playable to his former corp and a further 500 mil to vimsy today's enforcer + expenses she has incurred in delivering him justice.
A special note must be made on the etiquette shown by the wronged corp. Their compelling and factual sea shanty of woe the likes of which have never been heard in this Court has convinced me of the need to start a fund for their newbros which will NOT be managed by Mo. The op and defendant are ordered to match any and all contributions made into this fund. I will personally start this fund with 250mil isk which will be paid to the corp wallet the next time I log on. If the fund is not matched an equal amount will be spent on providing content to these individuals. And by that I mean mostly the OP.
I feel justice was served today
I would like to thank the court for its consideration and its final findings in the said matters. Many lessons have been learnt and as a corp we will be taking this all on board as we sail away towards oceans new.
It is sad in a way that when the ladder was offered to help one of the parties to climb up....Heck into the crows nest!!! He chose to climb down further towards the bilge tank.
Fare thee all well
J |
GordonO
Caldari Provisions
138
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Posted - 2015.07.15 23:35:12 -
[57] - Quote
Justinenough wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:The Court has decided that there are in fact three parties in this case. The op, the absentee defendant and the corp that has been wronged. I find first of all the defendant guilty of something and something and is sentenced to be shot on site by whoever for his absence. The OP is clearly the villain in this saga. He admits to deep pockets yet won't flex them to save the newbros from the mess he created possibly causing retention issues. Therefore he is fined 2 bil isk in damages playable to his former corp and a further 500 mil to vimsy today's enforcer + expenses she has incurred in delivering him justice.
A special note must be made on the etiquette shown by the wronged corp. Their compelling and factual sea shanty of woe the likes of which have never been heard in this Court has convinced me of the need to start a fund for their newbros which will NOT be managed by Mo. The op and defendant are ordered to match any and all contributions made into this fund. I will personally start this fund with 250mil isk which will be paid to the corp wallet the next time I log on. If the fund is not matched an equal amount will be spent on providing content to these individuals. And by that I mean mostly the OP.
I feel justice was served today
I would like to thank the court for its consideration and its final findings in the said matters. Many lessons have been learnt and as a corp we will be taking this all on board as we sail away towards oceans new. It is sad in a way that when the ladder was offered to help one of the parties to climb up....Heck into the crows nest!!! He chose to climb down further towards the bilge tank. Fare thee all well J
No feasible ladder was offered to anyone, and if vimsy wants to war deck on a whimsy.. well that's not my problem. All up.. this has been fun..
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Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
475
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Posted - 2015.07.15 23:46:10 -
[58] - Quote
GordonO wrote:this has been fun..
I think we have found our absentee defendant right here. Nice alt dude.
Just look at his face for all the evidence you need.
Looking 4 Guild
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
138
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Posted - 2015.07.16 01:00:42 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:this has been fun.. I think we have found our absentee defendant right here. Nice alt dude. Just look at his face for all the evidence you need.
I have alts, and the thief ain't one of them.. happy to share my full API's for my accounts with my ex CEO if he feels the need.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1314
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Posted - 2015.07.16 01:47:26 -
[60] - Quote
GordonO wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:this has been fun.. I think we have found our absentee defendant right here. Nice alt dude. Just look at his face for all the evidence you need. I have alts, and the thief ain't one of them.. happy to share my full API's for my accounts with my ex CEO if he feels the need. For all of them except the one the defendant was on. Go home Nitshe we are onto you
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
139
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Posted - 2015.07.16 02:34:05 -
[61] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:GordonO wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:this has been fun.. I think we have found our absentee defendant right here. Nice alt dude. Just look at his face for all the evidence you need. I have alts, and the thief ain't one of them.. happy to share my full API's for my accounts with my ex CEO if he feels the need. For all of them except the one the defendant was on. Go home Nitshe we are onto you
As a Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment, I would have expected more from you than making unfounded statements. I recommend that you be immediately struck from the role and all cases tried by you be deemed bogus.
If I were to even hint that you were correct in you statement I would be in violation of the CCP TOS
The judgement of the court can not be trusted.. the court should reimburse poor vimy for making them waste their hard earned isk on a war deck which clearly is not warranted as the judge clearly can not judge clearly..
CASE DISMISSED..
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Amarkir Krindrik
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.07.16 05:57:00 -
[62] - Quote
Freya Sertan wrote:Gonna need some info and proof of this theft before doing a thing. It's just way too easy to claim "omg corp thief" and try to pay someone to kill the target YOU likely pissed off. So, in the manner of the awesome slogan from the 90s, "got proof?"
If you don't have any proof, it'll be 2b to take your target out. 1.5b payable before engagement, 500m paid after delivery of wreck. Corpse is mine to keep.
Is this the going rate for a single gank? Seems pretty steep lol
"Fitting laser pewpew beams to a Cormorant is a sin." - Wendrika Hydreiga
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1322
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Posted - 2015.07.16 06:25:06 -
[63] - Quote
GordonO wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:GordonO wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:this has been fun.. I think we have found our absentee defendant right here. Nice alt dude. Just look at his face for all the evidence you need. I have alts, and the thief ain't one of them.. happy to share my full API's for my accounts with my ex CEO if he feels the need. For all of them except the one the defendant was on. Go home Nitshe we are onto you As a Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment, I would have expected more from you than making unfounded statements. I recommend that you be immediately struck from the role and all cases tried by you be deemed bogus. If I were to even hint that you were correct in you statement I would be in violation of the CCP TOS The judgement of the court can not be trusted.. the court should reimburse poor vimy for making them waste their hard earned isk on a war deck which clearly is not warranted as the judge clearly can not judge clearly.. CASE DISMISSED.. Classic Nitshe
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Forum BFFL of Mo
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
963
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Posted - 2015.07.17 09:59:52 -
[64] - Quote
Valkin Mordirc wrote:GordonO wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:GordonO wrote:NO I do not support bullying, ransoming, mining permits and other such things.. The fact that you even suggested is.. well.. no words to describe it really.. but code does love people like you to support their errmm "cause"..
The bribe/ransome is not too high.. my wallet is fully loaded.. but thanks for the offer.. But ganking is ok eh? Nope, Don't support it, never done it, but some people deserve it EDIT-- send a thief to catch a thief and all that I reeaally hope your a troll or an idiot, Because you literally harvested the personification of the American Government right there, TORTURE IS BAD MKAY? That's why we PAY OTHER people to do it.
Fascinating exchange, seeing as you are using a RL comment let me throw one in your direction, when people decided that they had to go in and do humanitarian work in Afghanistan we had a speech being given by the then Defence Minster of Blairs government in which he told the troops that they would not fire their weapon once... At the time I laughed my head off, I have a copy of that video and everytime someone says something similar I watch it again and laugh, I just watched it after reading your post
Ella's Snack bar
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Freya Sertan
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
519
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Posted - 2015.07.17 14:46:42 -
[65] - Quote
Amarkir Krindrik wrote:Freya Sertan wrote:Gonna need some info and proof of this theft before doing a thing. It's just way too easy to claim "omg corp thief" and try to pay someone to kill the target YOU likely pissed off. So, in the manner of the awesome slogan from the 90s, "got proof?"
If you don't have any proof, it'll be 2b to take your target out. 1.5b payable before engagement, 500m paid after delivery of wreck. Corpse is mine to keep.
Is this the going rate for a single gank? Seems pretty steep lol
There was no offered proof of this supposed crime. 2b seems a little LOW to me for this kind of hit. Say the mark turns out to be innocent and you take a contract from C&P and then you waste the guy. The mark then comes to C&P and presses against you and provides the defense against the original contract.
Yeah. 2b is cheap to deal with that.
New Eden isn't nice. It isn't friendly. It isn't very hospitiable. Good thing there are people here to shoot in the face.
Want to make New Eden a nice place? Try this out.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
8231
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Posted - 2015.08.07 19:29:50 -
[66] - Quote
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
I reeaally hope your a troll or an idiot,
I really hope someone else picked up on this, as I am far too busy waxing my moustache while thrusting to read the entirety of this thread.
[b]----
CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2945
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Posted - 2015.08.07 22:05:29 -
[67] - Quote
GordonO wrote:As a Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment, I would have expected more from you than making unfounded statements. I recommend that you be immediately struck from the role and all cases tried by you be deemed bogus.
As a judge, his honour doesn't make unfounded statements, he makes rulings based on the evidence (or lack thereof) presented.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2015.08.07 22:29:10 -
[68] - Quote
admiral root wrote:GordonO wrote:As a Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment, I would have expected more from you than making unfounded statements. I recommend that you be immediately struck from the role and all cases tried by you be deemed bogus. As a judge, his honour doesn't make unfounded statements, he makes rulings based on the evidence (or lack thereof) presented.
In my experience a judge doesn't say much other than giving the jury a question or two to consider whilst the jury make up their minds.
Once the jury have given their verdict it seems the judge is free to say what he/she likes. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2946
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Posted - 2015.08.07 22:45:29 -
[69] - Quote
Avvy wrote:admiral root wrote:GordonO wrote:As a Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment, I would have expected more from you than making unfounded statements. I recommend that you be immediately struck from the role and all cases tried by you be deemed bogus. As a judge, his honour doesn't make unfounded statements, he makes rulings based on the evidence (or lack thereof) presented. In my experience a judge doesn't say much other than giving the jury a question or two to consider whilst the jury make up their minds. Once the jury have given their verdict it seems the judge is free to say what he/she likes.
You're talking about the RL justice system, I'm talking about C&P where we stack the jury with like-minded individuals. We're space-criminals - it's not the taking part that counts, it's the winning.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
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GordonO
Kiwis In Space
147
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:50:17 -
[70] - Quote
admiral root wrote:Avvy wrote:admiral root wrote:GordonO wrote:As a Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment, I would have expected more from you than making unfounded statements. I recommend that you be immediately struck from the role and all cases tried by you be deemed bogus. As a judge, his honour doesn't make unfounded statements, he makes rulings based on the evidence (or lack thereof) presented. In my experience a judge doesn't say much other than giving the jury a question or two to consider whilst the jury make up their minds. Once the jury have given their verdict it seems the judge is free to say what he/she likes. You're talking about the RL justice system, I'm talking about C&P where we stack the jury with like-minded individuals. We're space-criminals - it's not the taking part that counts, it's the winning.
So as suspected, this is all a farce.. I was expecting justice.. silly me... hahahahaha.. its eve
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1568
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Posted - 2015.08.08 00:20:12 -
[71] - Quote
We stopped using a Jury system back in YC.117.06.01 when we realized that the available Jury pool was somewhat skewed in favor of the defendant and so I deliver an impartial verdict based on available evidence on all but the most serious of cases where the Jury will be utilized again.
Further sanctions may now be imposed for your Contempt of this Court and its Members
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
[s]ISD Dorrim Barstorlode favourite ISD[/s]
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GordonO
Kiwis In Space
147
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:34:02 -
[72] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:We stopped using a Jury system back in YC.117.06.01 when we realized that the available Jury pool was somewhat skewed in favor of the defendant and so I deliver an impartial verdict based on available evidence on all but the most serious of cases where the Jury will be utilized again.
Further sanctions may now be imposed for your Contempt of this Court and its Members
sooo if the accused skips town and runs away without attempting to counter.. he wins ? meh.. impartial ?? I am in huola, feel free to come and impose your justice on me.. oh wait, you gankers and greifers don't leave hs :p.. LMAO
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Domino Vyse
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
257
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Posted - 2015.08.08 23:04:09 -
[73] - Quote
GordonO wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:We stopped using a Jury system back in YC.117.06.01 when we realized that the available Jury pool was somewhat skewed in favor of the defendant and so I deliver an impartial verdict based on available evidence on all but the most serious of cases where the Jury will be utilized again.
Further sanctions may now be imposed for your Contempt of this Court and its Members sooo if the accused skips town and runs away without attempting to counter.. he wins ? meh.. impartial ?? I am in huola, feel free to come and impose your justice on me.. oh wait, you gankers and greifers don't leave hs :p.. LMAO
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