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LittleTerror
Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zell
Mr Tiller,
Clearly if you spent as much time in game as you do here you would have figured out what to do....
Mr Zell
Mr zell clearly you have no brain ___________________________________________________ I want your stuff |
Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 30/11/2006 21:12:32
Originally by: tiller Snigg have my respect, but your clinging onto a dieing profession where there are now better and more exciting ways to make isk and play the game.
Glad to see there will be one more carebear in the pool of targets.
Piracy never was the most profitable game in town. But you can still make a decent living while watching lots of pretty explosions.
shamis - don't get me wrong. gate camping is nice and dandy. but it's not my definition of "fun and piracy".
gatecamping is with the upcoming "balance" changes to WTZ (like large mobile warp disruptor and even maybe interdictor in lowsec) far from beeing dead.
but guess what? travel piracy in 0.0 without a camp is now dead. try to roam with an interceptor/cruiser around and try to catch something - when a.) everyone has instas from EVERY fricking point in a system and b.) soon a standard travelfitting will look like 1 or 2 WCS and the rest i-stabs.
"adapt or die" ... if adaption means the only way to enforce non-consensual PvP on a travelroute is a gatecamp - i prefer death. ___________________
EVE: Revelations - The Game for Carebears and Gankbears
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:29:00 -
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Mildly OT, but is [PAYUS] still mandating that all corporations are either in "the core group" or pay monthly taxes? How many corps did you end up losing because of that, anyway? (And don't say "only the uncommited ones," because I know for a fact that you lost some corps that were a credit to pirates everywhere. _
TomB has a nerf put aside for me ... for me ... for meeeeeeeeee!!!! |
Saltire
System-Lords E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Saltire on 30/11/2006 22:34:48 we've made 3bn in loot from roaming lowsec ganks and the odd session on the doril gate (latest hit, an IAC absolution that dropped corpum a-type EAN and centus x-typre hardeners)
warp to 0 stops nothing if u camp a low sec to lowsec pipe u just follow the target through the gate and scram at far side, piece of p*ss.
PS - come down to curse/derelik, people down here have good loot
and hp increase means i can tank sents in my hurricane of doom
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 30/11/2006 22:56:24
Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte but guess what? travel piracy in 0.0 without a camp is now dead. try to roam with an interceptor/cruiser around and try to catch something - when a.) everyone has instas from EVERY fricking point in a system and b.) soon a standard travelfitting will look like 1 or 2 WCS and the rest i-stabs.
"adapt or die" ... if adaption means the only way to enforce non-consensual PvP on a travelroute is a gatecamp - i prefer death.
I try not to undock in 0.0 without a dictor by my side. I don't see how any of the stuff you listed will affect 0.0 piracy at all. And now I'll be able to scan down and kill all the 0.0 agent mission runners too, while I've got their insta-dock station coated with large mobile warp disruptors or dictor bubbles.
Adaptation means get a dictor, and if you didn't already have a dictor, or a friend in one, then I'm not sure how you could have possibly been pirating in 0.0 before the patch, let alone now.
Everybody logs out or insta-docks already when I enter a 0.0 system, so I don't see how warp to 0 will change much, but if you're good with the scanner a solo hac can still get into a belt and scram a battleship from time to time, and now said battleship will not be able to wear more than 1 stab if he wishes to npc effectively, which means you actually get a kill.
Shamis
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Laocoon
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: tiller People who like the change fall into two cats, either rich, or don't take risks. (or both)
...Why? I love the change; I'm poor as ****, and I take risks all the time.
Originally by: tiller What person ever fought a battle where retreat was not a option.
o/
- Lao
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.30 23:26:00 -
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I agree about the 'hit and run' dieing. I'm very disapointed in this, EVE has been like it's been for 3 & 1/2 years, why change it jsut now? Anyway, I'll see how I cope, theres 3 options to my position though. 1) Leaving, 2)Joining Alliance, 3)Countinung my path.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.30 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten I agree about the 'hit and run' dieing. I'm very disapointed in this, EVE has been like it's been for 3 & 1/2 years, why change it jsut now? Anyway, I'll see how I cope, theres 3 options to my position though. 1) Leaving, 2)Joining Alliance, 3)Countinung my path.
Hit and run doesn't require stabs. Speed is far superior to stabs, particularly with all the interdictors out there.
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Apollyon X
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.01 00:20:00 -
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Kali is awsome and there is absolutely nothing that I would want changed. All the new features are cool and the ships are sweet. And the map is insane. Thanks CCP
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Megadon
Caldari Deathshead Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.01 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: tiller It's a shame more pirate corps can't unite, the force it would create in the eve universe would be devastating.
Fleets of pirates are rather difficult to manage. Its like trying to herd a 100 cats down the street.
lol, very true
CAN-O-TUNA
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Zell
Caldari The Black Raptors
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Posted - 2006.12.01 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Zell on 01/12/2006 00:26:40
Originally by: LittleTerror
Originally by: Zell
Mr Tiller,
Clearly if you spent as much time in game as you do here you would have figured out what to do....
Mr Zell
Mr zell clearly you have no brain
Miss Little T,
Clearly, You should hope Mr. Tiller does not stop short, or he will clearly break your neck...
Mr Zell
"Ginger Magician is just a nublet. I've met more people ingame that have laughed about him, than anyone else in Eve."
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Mi Lai
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.01 00:44:00 -
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While I think it's to early to judge the consequences fully, I can't complain. Area's that have been dead for ages now have people in it, seems low sec is getting explored by plenty of new customers.
We'll see how it looks on the longer term, but so far, it's business as usual.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.12.01 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 01/12/2006 01:17:45 Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 01/12/2006 01:17:15 Well first the stab comment, Snigg takes on forces much larger than itself without the use of stabs. Stabs were to much of an I win button and often led to boring combat that in the end resulted in stalemates or just the other group running away. STABS MADE THE GAME BORING, because you could pick and choose who you fought way to often.
I have not tried out probing missions runners yet but I look forward to doing so, as it stands mission runner's were far to safe in all the patches before this one. Ha you think thats big wait till you see the next |
Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.01 01:28:00 -
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I hate people claiming that stabs are there to allow them to fight multiple targets. That's a load of ****.
Basically stabs were a Save/Restore for single combat. Don't like how the fight is going for you? Warp off and pretend that didn't happen.
I'm quite happy to see the current implementation.
Warp to 0 basically just made life easier for everyone. Now well prepared people don't have to blow hour upon hour copying bookmarks before operating in a region (this is good!) and unprepared people get the benefit of bookmarks that previously they were too lazy to acquire.
Not sure how I feel about the HP increase yet. It has a lot of side effects (easier to call for help and have that help arrive, easier to tank sentries, easier to unaggro and dock, etc...). Will have to play with it longer and see.
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Mista Sexamalicious
Sexa Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.01 03:18:00 -
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I still haven't had the time with revelations to say whether or not I agree with you. Hell it's only been 2 days tbh.
P.S. Please eve-mail me if I win your stuff. Thanks. SEXEH!
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PCaBoo
Newbies On Xstacy
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Posted - 2006.12.01 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Superbus Maximus Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 01/12/2006 01:17:45 Edited by: Superbus Maximus on 01/12/2006 01:17:15
I have not tried out probing missions runners yet but I look forward to doing so, as it stands mission runner's were far to safe in all the patches before this one.
oh man, it's great. I've been probing out Mission runners all day. Tons of ransoms, even more explosions. It's like christmas came early this year. I'm actually a little worried that we may probe out too many and scare the bears back into hibernation.
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Handon Guild
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.12.01 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: LittleTerror
Originally by: Zell
Mr Tiller,
Clearly if you spent as much time in game as you do here you would have figured out what to do....
Mr Zell
Mr zell clearly you have no brain
Be quiet boy. You are nothing more than an annoyance! Do you only come here to smack or something, you retarded fatballs-wannabe?! If the world was a giant set of genetials, you would be herpes!!
Tiller, I agree on several of your points, although the stab-nerf is a VERY welcome change for those few of us who enjoy the occasional 0.0-space 1on1. Nothing worse than trying to catch feckers in 0.0, who warps away when they're losing a good fight!
Warp to 0 is a fine change, but as long as bubbles aren't allowed in lowsec, it kills lowsec gatecamping pretty much..for the smaller corps anyway.
Now, I won't cry about the changes in the game, because I still think it's an awesome game, but I have to agree, that the carebears are held in high favour with CCP for the time being!
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Puupuu
mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.01 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: PCaBoo I'm actually a little worried that we may probe out too many and scare the bears back into hibernation.
I'm more than little worried about this :(
Probing a mission now is like scanning down a belt ratter, except easier
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Kery Syander
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Since The patch was released my corp has picked up roughly 4 billion in loot.
Piracy is clearly dead.
Shamis
Totally agree with Shamis, here. Piracy in EVE will never be dead. I'm sure Snigg made 4 bil in Amamake scanning down mission runners...
Nope, just a good 'ol fashioned gate camp. So far: - Lots of t2 fitted bs kills - 1 officer fitted vaga kill - 2 tier 2 bc bpo's (one off a noob ship...lol) - All the new scan probe bpo's - Nearly all the new rigging bpo's - All the new assault launcher/missle bpo's - Hundreds of salvaged ships (not much out of this yet, still training so we can salvage t2 wrecks)
We'll be looking into the agent scanning soon. That should add even more profits in the patch which has BOOSTED piracy more than any other in eve.
Shamis
Respect. SNIGG, you guys know how to party - hard! Now that VETO is pretending to do that Merc thing, you guys please keep holding up the Jolly Roger proper.
Originally by: Puupuu
Originally by: PCaBoo I'm actually a little worried that we may probe out too many and scare the bears back into hibernation.
I'm more than little worried about this :(
Probing a mission now is like scanning down a belt ratter, except easier
It's a mixed blessing really (as I tried to indicate on page 1): Yes pirates have an edge on mission runners, but mission runners will adapt by moving away. And PIRATES can now be probed out while their aggro timer ticks down.
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Gonada
Gallente Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.01 12:41:00 -
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sorry , anytime I see pirate coalition, I am reminded of when you had 30 ships log on trapping 3 ships worth maybe 50 mill.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.- -nerf Missles-
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Fedaykinn
Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.01 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Fedaykinn on 01/12/2006 12:50:38 Edited by: Fedaykinn on 01/12/2006 12:47:55
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux Mildly OT, but is [PAYUS] still mandating that all corporations are either in "the core group" or pay monthly taxes? How many corps did you end up losing because of that, anyway? (And don't say "only the uncommited ones," because I know for a fact that you lost some corps that were a credit to pirates everywhere.
Tbh mate those corps were not interested in doing anything with the alliance so them leaving was a blessing really. I doubt many other alliances would keep corps in there alliance if they never actually wanted to do anything with them
It baffles me why they joined the alliance in the first place if they had no intentions of workin with us at all they jsut wnated to do there own pirate thing which si fare enuogh but you shouldnt be in an alliance for that in the first place. Alliances make ppl work togeather and if your corp doesnt want to work togeather then your better off on your own
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.01 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada sorry , anytime I see pirate coalition, I am reminded of when you had 30 ships log on trapping 3 ships worth maybe 50 mill.
PC use login tactics ?, I've never heard of this.
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Fedaykinn
Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.01 12:52:00 -
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Neither have I Tbh unless it was some of the corps that left that did this that enver really did anything with the alliance just flew the banner
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.01 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Kaeten I agree about the 'hit and run' dieing. I'm very disapointed in this, EVE has been like it's been for 3 & 1/2 years, why change it jsut now? Anyway, I'll see how I cope, theres 3 options to my position though. 1) Leaving, 2)Joining Alliance, 3)Countinung my path.
Hit and run doesn't require stabs. Speed is far superior to stabs, particularly with all the interdictors out there.
Did I mention using stbs? no I didn't. I'm talking about the hp boost. It's impossible to kill something before his "friends" arrive.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2006.12.01 13:50:00 -
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Well I'll be sorry if you leave if only because I like reading your forum posts.
I'll just say this: Kali/Rev is only a couple of days old. Given that things are probably not even in their final configuration, why not wait a few weeks to see how things shake out. You say "Most PVP is at gates period, eve has lost it's soul.". Well, most PvP was at the gates; now maybe it won't be. So instead of doing the same thing you've been doing for months, you're going to have to do something different. That doesn't necessarily mean EVE has "lost it's soul" - it might have just changed it's socks. Was the "soul" of EVE being instapopped by pirate gangs outnumbering & outgunning their targets 3-10:1? Why didn't you meantion the scanner improvements, which it seem to me were the pirate's "compensation" for Warp to 0km.
And, as many people have posted before, all the experienced players used instas anyway, so maybe your quote should have been "Most PVP is killing n00bs at gates period, eve has lost it's soul.". What's the difference between trying to pirate someone with Warp to 0 and someone with a set of instas? Just server lag. if the "soul" of the game was hugely one-sided combat, then it *needed* to change.
I'm not offended by your post; it just reads like it was written by someone who has been playing a game in a certain way for a long time and is a little frightened (and therefore angry) by change. I see lots of posts by pirates in this folder advising new guys / carebears to take some risks and go into low-sec / 0.0.
You've proved that you can be a creative player. You thought up one strategy that will work if you can get some people on your team; I'm pretty confident you can think up others.
Take some risks and give the undiscovered country a chance.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2006.12.01 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: tiller It's a shame more pirate corps can't unite, the force it would create in the eve universe would be devastating.
Fleets of pirates are rather difficult to manage. Its like trying to herd a 100 cats down the street.
As with many problems this is easy if approached from a different direction. I could get a 90%+ success rate with a few kilos of fish placed where I want the cats to be....
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Uric Helfast
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:29:00 -
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It's funny to see the pirates whining now as opposed to the "carebears".
So you have to work harder for your money. So you have to get a big group going to get a functional gate camp. So what? Pick a different profession if you don't like pirating any more. You could probbably turn to Salvage pretty easily. ___________
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raVn666
FightClub TQ
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:57:00 -
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So far I have nothing bad to say about the new patch , my corp have adapted to the changes very well , and find no problem in hunting in lowsec.
We are still able to do small scale combat , sentrytanking , belthunting , and we do get the kills.
The Armor bonus goes both ways , and we can tank sentrys forever even though our pray also tank longer.
The Stab nerf is only of the good , you might still need some points to catch haulers and travellers who dont intend to fight , but for the ppl who goes for the combat and not the gank its exellent. ppl who fire back at you dont fit stabs , and then you get free medslots for other use.
Ecm nerf 'HURRA' makes it so much easier to do small scale combat.
sumarum ... lowsec piracy is not at all dead , but pirates , adept or die
and all of you carebears that think lowsec is a safe place now ... yarr mohahaha harr arrr ... think again
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raVn666
FightClub TQ
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Posted - 2006.12.01 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: raVn666 on 01/12/2006 14:59:11 doublepost
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tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.01 15:24:00 -
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Yeah your right on the sentry tanking, my drake ship even with a light tank could sit solo for ages under fire.
It's gonna be fun to see how rokh copes with 25% on all shield resists. (I pick mine up tonight :D)
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