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Protunia
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.30 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Protunia on 30/11/2006 17:55:11 I decided to take an alt and fly around low sec for awhile.
never got attacked by a pirate, but did see one warp away.
I did how ever get killed and podded by a corp player with 5.0 sec rating. I was never asked anything or talked too. Simply destroyed and podded without so much as a word.
I did message the guy a couple of times. He finally responded with something about how its his duty to kill all people who enter his space regardless of who they are. Nice policy to get new recruits lol!
Yeah I can see that point kind of. But after you have someone whos basically a newb in a newb ship scrammed you think maybe you might say something?? Nope lets just scram the pod too while were at it.
This tells me some corps are no better then some pirates in this regard.
So from here on out I say Pirates give the bastages hell!!
And here I felt bad for the poor corpies. MY mistake..
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Teldar Novastorm
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.30 18:04:00 -
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Well reading around, I get the impression that a lot of 0.0 corps go by a policy of "Kill anyone without a blue tag" basically if you arent rated as allied or friendly by the corp, you are either a rival corp/wartarget or Supposedly a spy. I guess some players use newb alts in newb corps to spy/scout on other corps. On the one hand, I cant blame them for being cautious, on the other hand, its a pretty handy excuse for griefing. Just as bad as pirates? Nah, they just have more to protect. Pirates generally dont put together convoys of freighters full of materials, a newb flying around their space can see something like that, and report time and place and apperant destination to a gate gank squad. for example. For the most part, its legit reasoning, but like I said, theres probbly more than a few that just use it as an excuse to justify to themselves that they are griefing. |
DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.11.30 18:43:00 -
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OMG! Somebody call a Waaambulance.
Dude. your in 0.0. he had a 5.0 security from NPC HUNTING
5.0 Security doesnt mean he's GOOD
plus 0.0 is almost all NBSI. Not Blue, Shoot It.
Even in your newb ship you could have been scouting for a fleet or something else.
Back off he's mine. All Mine --Eris
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SamuelAdams
Gallente Templars of Space CORE.
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Posted - 2006.11.30 18:48:00 -
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.11.30 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: SamuelAdams
I DEMAND this become a new forum feature. O.o
Whine Posts who get a LOCK vote enough will become locked! GIVE THE PEOPLE POWER!!!!!
O.o and you can only vote once on a thread with an account
Back off he's mine. All Mine --Eris
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Drasked
Flashman Services
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:13:00 -
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[]OMG [x]WTF []BBGUN
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Stakhanov
Gallente Acid Enema Of Doomed Gerbils
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:25:00 -
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0.0 is meant to be wild and lawless , everyone is out to kill you. 0.0 gives people the opportunity to attack others with no consequences. Hence the mercyless attitudes.
The difference between 0.0 PvPers and pirates , is that pirates accept the consequences of their actions.
If you seek revenge , become a pirate and try to cause financial damage to those corps.
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Protunia
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: Protunia on 30/11/2006 19:34:15 YOU GUYS ***** ME UP :p
anyhow I purposely did it to see who was around and who would kill me.
I realize also that 0.0 is a death zone because corps are basically pirates to everyone they dont approve of.
I was just trying to say that corps are not inoccent about waxing off people for no reason.
they too also kill multiple people without warning and act pretty much like pirates do.
Ive actually meet friendlier Pirates in low sec than corp members ;) My Character Stats
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Protunia
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.30 19:52:00 -
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Oh I had never been killed before and I wanted to see tactics they use against complete newbs.
Now I know why newbs get alittle miffed at times.
Theres just basically murder going on out there!!
I mean between the gate camps, pirates, and corps a newb just doesnt stand a chance!! My Character Stats
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psylenz
Evisceration. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2006.11.30 20:34:00 -
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If newbie alts were not so commonly enemy scouts, there might be a slightly different reaction to new players in 0.0. If there was only one character per account then it would be known that you were who you said you were and not the newb/scout/spy alt that is most likely found in 0.0 these days. I kill or try to kill noob alts whenever I see them in local. If you don't, you never know when its main character along with a gank squad will be coming in after it.
Pirates on the other hand, do not need to protect space and noob alts are usually more trouble than they are worth. If you are killed without too much effort, I doubt many would hesitate to pop you in 0.0. If they need to hunt you, I'm sure they would do better by continuing to the next system to find somebody with better loot and more to lose for an increased ransom.
Most of the alliances I see do not have newb ships on their killboards and it is unlikely that ibises of d00m are used as padding.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.30 21:24:00 -
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0.0 largely isn't "lawless" at all. Its empire-controlled. The precise laws of any given region depend on who owns it and how much they enforce their laws. But generally speaking, its all claimed and if you don't have a relationship with the owner, then recognize that you live a hunted life while on their turf.
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.11.30 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Protunia Edited by: Protunia on 30/11/2006 19:34:15
I realize also that 0.0 is a death zone because corps are basically pirates to everyone they dont approve of.
wow! Guess what! Your wrong! GUESS AGAIn
Pirates: Attack for the sole purpose of gaining ISK through ransom or just to ruin your day. They camp 0.0 and Low sec.
Corps that blow you up in 0.0 that arent pirates: Are protecting themselves from possible hostile actions and dont ransom for ISK. They blow you up and move on, seeing as the possible threat has been neutralized
Learn the difference nub and STOP WHINING like a little WoW player. better yet, GO BACK TO WoW
Back off he's mine. All Mine --Eris
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Horatio Nately
Finis Lumen Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.11.30 23:53:00 -
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I really dont get the point of this post. OMG BE CAREFUL ANYONE CAN KILL U?
its eve. everyone wants to wtfbbq everyone around be it if they admit it or not ---------------------------------------
What Alt?
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Anstice Frost
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.01 00:35:00 -
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When I lived in placid, I was more scared of the people with 3.0+ than those with -5.0
Quote: Originally by: Galaxion
The Uneducated fly Amarr. Those in the know fly Minmatar. Nooblars fly Gallente. Cheaters fly Caldari. Rich people fly Faction.
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Protunia
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.01 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately I really dont get the point of this post. OMG BE CAREFUL ANYONE CAN KILL U?
its eve. everyone wants to wtfbbq everyone around be it if they admit it or not
Well its to point out that PIRATES are not that bad after all.
And that you can be ganked by a Corp just as easily.
Regardless of the reasoning behind killing someone wether its ISK or this supposed protection the very fact remains that Corps are just as ruthless as Pirates.
When I first came to Eve I always saw a BAD picture painted towards Pirates and thought that they were the PK's. Now I have come to realize that Corps are bigger PK's to new players in low sec than the pirates. I can also see how Pirates could get a bad wrap on some of the murders committed by Corps.
I guess what I am pointing out to people is that just because you went out to Low Sec and some one blew you up for no reason without talking doesnt mean it was a Pirate who did it.
Maybe those Pirates you feared so much are not that bad after all. My Character Stats
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Tunajuice
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.01 08:03:00 -
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You are missing a difference.
A corp says - this is my space. I keep pirates out of it. I built the outposts and POS's. I worked hard to keep it safe. Yes that will mean killing most things I see that aren't blue, but so what. Why are they in my space? To mine at the asteroids I protect so I have less to mine? To kill my rats so I have to fight over spawns?
A pirate says - I will go in whoevers space I want, that I did not work for to make safe and productive, and cause as much damage as I can. They didn't do any work to build up the space, they didn't keep hostile people out... they just came in to try and find stuff to kill.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.01 08:25:00 -
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I need only a few conditions to be met before I open fire on people I meet.
1. They are not set to Blue. 2. Erm....I cant think of one right now, get back to ya later.
Corp, non-corp, pie, anti-pie who cares. They fact is that I like to shoot people I come across in 0.0. If they can offer a challange, so much the better, if not then too bad. I dont need excuses or justification for my actions. I am not the good guy but I am certainly not the evil guy either. Just a frontline alliance soldier looking for some fun between seiges. A noob in a shuttle is not something I rush to post on the killboard, but if the opportunity arises I will nail them if I can.
SO my suggestion to the op is that you start enjoying the shooty bits as much as those who are doing the shooting. All else leads to frustration and mental anguish.
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Protunia
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tunajuice You are missing a difference.
A corp says - this is my space. I keep pirates out of it. I built the outposts and POS's. I worked hard to keep it safe. Yes that will mean killing most things I see that aren't blue, but so what. Why are they in my space? To mine at the asteroids I protect so I have less to mine? To kill my rats so I have to fight over spawns?
A pirate says - I will go in whoevers space I want, that I did not work for to make safe and productive, and cause as much damage as I can. They didn't do any work to build up the space, they didn't keep hostile people out... they just came in to try and find stuff to kill.
that view seems abit slanted to me.
Pirates work hard too in their areas to keep people off their spawns as well.
Like I said I see no difference between the above corp view of killing people and the pirates both are guilty and both do it with out regard.
Not that its completely wrong todo :)
In other words you cant say pirates are bad and then you go around wiping people and say your better than them because you hide behind some corp rating.
You are both the same you both kill because you can. My Character Stats
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:09:00 -
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BBgun. - - - These elite slaves are exceptionally well suited for physical labor. |
Protunia
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse Archae BBgun.
More like a Sling Shot My Character Stats
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tunajuice You are missing a difference.
A corp says - this is my space. I keep pirates out of it. I built the outposts and POS's. I worked hard to keep it safe. Yes that will mean killing most things I see that aren't blue, but so what. Why are they in my space? To mine at the asteroids I protect so I have less to mine? To kill my rats so I have to fight over spawns?
A pirate says - I will go in whoevers space I want, that I did not work for to make safe and productive, and cause as much damage as I can. They didn't do any work to build up the space, they didn't keep hostile people out... they just came in to try and find stuff to kill.
sorry if we dont abide by the boundaries you set. i guess i shouldnt go in any 0.0 because bob claims it all
pirates go for purely isk. alliances go to control the boundaries they set. pirates just dont give a flying **** about the space you claim.
liberate space, become a pirate today!
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Zappapapa
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:11:00 -
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To everyone who says people kill in 0.0 to protect their space, speak for yourself. I kill in 0.0 because it's fun and things look pretty when they go boom. Only difference between pirates and 0.0 pvpers is sec status, is this really news? |
Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zappapapa To everyone who says people kill in 0.0 to protect their space, speak for yourself. I kill in 0.0 because it's fun and things look pretty when they go boom. Only difference between pirates and 0.0 pvpers is sec status, is this really news?
but killing with justification makes them sleep better at night
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Zappapapa
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.01 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Zappapapa To everyone who says people kill in 0.0 to protect their space, speak for yourself. I kill in 0.0 because it's fun and things look pretty when they go boom. Only difference between pirates and 0.0 pvpers is sec status, is this really news?
but killing with justification makes them sleep better at night
They just need to get in touch with their inner homicidal psychopath
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Gonada
Gallente Cross Roads
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:31:00 -
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I did how ever get killed and podded by a corp player with 5.0 sec rating. I was never asked anything or talked too. Simply destroyed and podded without so much as a word.
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ever hear of a alt spy?
that is common practice in lowsec. noobcorps usually are open season.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.- -nerf Missles-
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Eternal Fury
Shadow Of The Light Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.02 05:52:00 -
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o_0 <-- this is the symbol for someone whos'perplexed/drunk right.
0.0 <-- is someone who has their eyes WIDE open in suprise. How supriseing is it that 0.0 and zero.zero(0.0) look the same.
SUPRISE!
Eternal Fury
Shadow Of The Light
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Mista Sexamalicious
Sexa Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.02 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: SamuelAdams
BBgun needs to be clickable. SEXEH!
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.12.03 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Noluck Ned I need only a few conditions to be met before I open fire on people I meet.
1. They are not set to Blue. 2. Erm....I cant think of one right now, get back to ya later.
2 is 'I have guns fitted' I keep seeing(and able to lock if I wanted) all these bleepin covert ops and noob ****s, with my alt.... when she's in her Viator!!!
when i'm looking for people(or gatecamping with the FIXies), I never see anything or the hostiles safespot till hell is frozen over.... I send my alt on corp hauling dutys and wtf they crawl outta the woodwork i'm tempted to start following her with a gank-ranis
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James Saumerez
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:52:00 -
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pvp => player versus player
versus => against
99.9% of Eve ships can fit weapons in their high slots
0.0 => 0.0 security => There is no security here.
wtf were you expecting?
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DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.04 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 04/12/2006 01:50:28 I'm a member of the Myriad Alliance, we live out of 0.0, and yes we enforce a NBSI(Not Blue Shoot It) policy in our territory. Anyone who enters our territory and isn't a known friend may be here to spy on our ships with scanners, or on our PoSes/Outposts. Even if they're in a Pod they're a potential threat and are treated as such.
Outside our region Piracy "killing industrials, non-threatening ships, ect." is generally frowned apon in .1-.4 and completely unacceptable in empire.
Even with with this said piracy is still just a way of playing the game, and you have to learn to accept that. The moment someone enters low-sec they're open game. As long as the pirate doesn't smacktalk and are respectable in chat i don't have anything against them. __________________________ Why babelfish is bad mmm k "which the night do not expect that it calls the primary education before becoming deformed inside" |
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