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Eagle32
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:12:00 -
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Got a hit in the 3rd low sec system I scanned today. Showed in the system map once I'd found it as a "Provisional Sansha Outpost".
First pocket had 3 frigs and a cruiser initially then during the battle 3 more frigs spawned.
Second pocket had 3 frigs initially. During the battle 2 web/scram frigs spawned and 4 cruisers (2 of which were Corpum and the other 2 were Gistum). I think that's the first time I've ever seen two different factions npc pirates in one deadspace area, but I don't do many missions.
No loot or salvage of note and I destroyed everything and attempted salvaged all wrecks.
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Jan Riksma
Dark Reality
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Talia Owren Just to give you a taste of 0.0 exploration has to offer.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/0-0_Exploration_1.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/0-0_Exploration_2.jpg
Cool pics but next time if you don't want to let people know you are in trkn-l don't forget to black out the selected planet.
Cheers,
Jan
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Kaaii
Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2006.12.07 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jan Riksma
Originally by: Talia Owren Just to give you a taste of 0.0 exploration has to offer.
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/0-0_Exploration_1.jpg
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0612/0-0_Exploration_2.jpg
Cool pics but next time if you don't want to let people know you are in trkn-l don't forget to black out the selected planet.
Cheers,
Jan
Whats that old saying? "little things aren't little things, there every thing..."
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Iog Krugar
Gallente The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2006.12.07 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Iog Krugar on 07/12/2006 22:50:04 "Profession - ARCSAL - Site 1 - Low Sec - Serpentis", found in 0.2 gallente space.
had 2 cruisers and 2 frigs, a nice little asteroid belt with veldspar, scordite and plagioclase and a few containers that need salvaging or archaeology to open. with archaeology IV and salvaging IV and a bit of luck we managed to get from these:
Broken Drone Transceiverx 23 Burned Logic Circuit x 12 Charred Micro Circuit x 7 Conductive Polymer x 20 Contaminated Lorentz Fluid x 16 Damaged Artificial Neural Network x 19 Fried Interface Circuit x 3 Malfunctioning Shield Emitter x 1 Tripped Power Circuit x 20
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Nocturnal Prince
Tech 2 Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2006.12.07 23:34:00 -
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Im unlucky I guess, 11 hours solid of exploration on two accounts (exploration with one charicter was just too damn dull). I followed the great guide on exploration probing and spent over an hour in each system visited and I got through three constallations.
About 60 4 au probes used and not a sniff of a exploration. I did however find the worlds supply of lost drones and abandoned frigates.
So, asking frankly. Was I unlucky or is there another factor involved? I tended to frequent 0.5/0.6 systems in caldari space with a low throughput of people. Would this hinder me?
Anyone with even a hint of a clue replying would be appriciated. This isnt a whine or a moan, I just want to know if Im doing the right stuff before I waste another full day of my holiday pressing that damn button in the hope of seeing new content.
Yes, Im using exploration probes and yes I have the new skills at rank 2+.
Any Ideas?
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Elena Lanfear
Crafty Productions
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Posted - 2006.12.08 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Elena Lanfear on 08/12/2006 00:26:31 I would say, you are unlucky... . I got a result today in my 3rd system. Was a small complex (Angel Hideout) and not worth the hassle, but it was my first hit so far.
I scanned a 0.5 system.
Greetings Elena
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Tulakh
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Posted - 2006.12.08 18:39:00 -
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I have done some exploration aswell and at the 4th system i tried i found an very small place with in the first part mostly asteroids and the 2nd part a few buildings which after i started shooting them caused 2 4.5k frigates to appear. Nothing really fancy came out of it but at least it was something rather then nothing. The place was colelie which is an 0.5 security system and i used magnetomatic probes (since this area is gallante and it seems that racial probes work better then non racials).
I think it is crucial to learn the skills that improve your findings and scan time (for example you really want to be in an covert ops with lvl 2 upto 5 which means 20 upto 50% cut off the scan time). Also very important are the 2 skills for better scan strenght and lower scan deviation (aswell as the other skill to lower scan time). At least it seems this makes alot of difference to me aswell as makeing sure you are aiming at least semi correct probes (it may always be possible that there is an NON racial thing there).
To Nocturnal Prince - Make sure u stick to planets (as far as i know it only is close to those, unless confirmed otherwise, like arroud an far out stargate). - Make sure to use racial probes (EG magnetomatic for gallante). - up the skills further (specifically for scan strenght) it MAY make the differences
I don't know if useing dual account and dropping an probe from each account on the same area is possible (scan field only limited to your own probes or other people's probes aswell?). You could try doubling up the speed by doing one system at a time with dual accounts (if you are througly and use all racial probes). But i would recommend more to wait till next patch, devs will make finding exploration sites much easyer then and an share of generall fixes over the new content.
Anyway good luck whatever you try now.
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Eagle32
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Posted - 2006.12.09 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tulakh I don't know if useing dual account and dropping an probe from each account on the same area is possible (scan field only limited to your own probes or other people's probes aswell?).
Scan field is only limited by your own probes.
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Nocturnal Prince
Tech 2 Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2006.12.09 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tulakh I have done some exploration aswell and at the 4th system i tried i found an very small place with in the first part mostly asteroids and the 2nd part a few buildings which after i started shooting them caused 2 4.5k frigates to appear. Nothing really fancy came out of it but at least it was something rather then nothing. The place was colelie which is an 0.5 security system and i used magnetomatic probes (since this area is gallante and it seems that racial probes work better then non racials).
I think it is crucial to learn the skills that improve your findings and scan time (for example you really want to be in an covert ops with lvl 2 upto 5 which means 20 upto 50% cut off the scan time). Also very important are the 2 skills for better scan strenght and lower scan deviation (aswell as the other skill to lower scan time). At least it seems this makes alot of difference to me aswell as makeing sure you are aiming at least semi correct probes (it may always be possible that there is an NON racial thing there).
To Nocturnal Prince - Make sure u stick to planets (as far as i know it only is close to those, unless confirmed otherwise, like arroud an far out stargate). - Make sure to use racial probes (EG magnetomatic for gallante). - up the skills further (specifically for scan strenght) it MAY make the differences
I don't know if useing dual account and dropping an probe from each account on the same area is possible (scan field only limited to your own probes or other people's probes aswell?). You could try doubling up the speed by doing one system at a time with dual accounts (if you are througly and use all racial probes). But i would recommend more to wait till next patch, devs will make finding exploration sites much easyer then and an share of generall fixes over the new content.
Anyway good luck whatever you try now.
1) I did stick to planets 2) used Grav probes in caldari space 3) used two accounts to do the same thing to double my chances. Both accounts have all the new skills at lvl 2/3 (my pvp account was a covert ops user long before this patch)
So I guess I was just fantasticly unlucky. I'll have another go tomorrow for another few hours.
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Iog Krugar
Gallente The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2006.12.12 17:36:00 -
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write up of my first expedition:
had found a Provisional Serpentis Outpost in a 0.2 system, and having taken on one of them before i wasnt exactly thrilled (2 pockets with few frig to BC spawns, one armory structure with a bit of ammo and VERY LONG distances to travel dont make this a high reward encounter), but i did it anyways. when the last rat went poof, i got a text box titled "Expedition" that told me altho i had caught all the pirates here, there was a lead to another location and the info i had been able to gather would provide me with a bookmark. i clicked "set course" and frowned at 14 orange dots appearing to the left of my screen, noticed the blinking journal icon in my neocon and read that the bookmark was good for another 58m 43s, ticking down. a few seconds later i was in warp, hoping to live through any gatecamps along my way to the other end of the region...
finally warping to the location (via rightclick menu), i stumbled upon a blob of over 30 corelatis guardian/corelis (again: frigate to BC) sitting just outside targetting range. wishing i had brought backup, i engaged. when i closed in, a good 3/4 of the rats jumped out, leaving only seven ships behind to defend a small serpentis security station (1 high bounty frig, 2 normal and 2 high bounty cruisers and 2 bc). after i got rid of them, i took down the station, which netted me a text box titled "dead end", explaining me that i didnt get any lead on where the ships i saw jump out earlier might have went.
so thats it. seems like you dont always get an expedition out of a hidden site, (1 out of 3 for me so far) but i'll go find that thing again after downtime and maybe i can escalate it to the third stage next time...
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Iog Krugar
Gallente The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2006.12.14 04:18:00 -
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Minor Serpentis Annex. second stage has a good ole 22 BS spawn that can be triggered, my corpmate on tanking duty in the Vulture went "Minor? MINOR? Minor my ass!", but with a little teamwork (read: gang mods, shield+energy transfers), we managed to pull it off. nothing special there in terms of loot, and sadly no expedition. but one hell of a fight and lots of large wrecks to salvage
on a related note: Gravimetric signatures more often than not are hidden Belts. you can expect small batches of Gneiss and/or Dark Ochre in 0.1 and 0.2 systems
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Iog Krugar
Gallente The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2006.12.14 16:51:00 -
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"Rogue Court Yard", a 2 stage 4/10 drone complex with a Zombie Dominix in the second stage. lots of red "Container with burst marks", but sadly no clue as to what to do with them (description states these reinforced containers are built to pick up data from nearby memory banks, but blowing up the structures next to them didnt fill them either...).
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Ju'Co
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.14 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Iog Krugar "Rogue Court Yard", a 2 stage 4/10 drone complex with a Zombie Dominix in the second stage. lots of red "Container with burst marks", but sadly no clue as to what to do with them (description states these reinforced containers are built to pick up data from nearby memory banks, but blowing up the structures next to them didnt fill them either...).
I believe thats one of the "hacking/acheology" whatever sites. Found a post somewhere that said there was 5 types of signatures, and one of them had cans like you describe that only hacking/analyzer etc work
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Titts Galore
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Posted - 2006.12.14 20:26:00 -
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I know this isn't supposed to be about probing, but I have to add this one thig: If you drop several probes (and initially you should, of course), when you start analyze you have to manually select all probes before clicking the analyze button. I was stupid enough to think that the analyze always used all probes.
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Mari Y'Tuk
Gallente Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:11:00 -
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i found a "deadspace Signature" tracked it down, all that was there was a cloud (non-harvest) and a few non-miniable roids, no npcs, no idea if someone beat me to system or not
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Iog Krugar
Gallente The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2006.12.14 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ju'Co
Originally by: Iog Krugar "Rogue Court Yard"...
I believe thats one of the "hacking/acheology" whatever sites. Found a post somewhere that said there was 5 types of signatures, and one of them had cans like you describe that only hacking/analyzer etc work
i'm not sure. my COSMOS skilled corpmates werent around, so no chance of doing the Madd Doc 5-scanner-and-remote-rep test , but at least the site wasnt declared as a profession site.
(once you have warped to a find, it will appear on your system map as a complex symbol and a tooltip sporting the sites name. and the hacking/archaeology/salvaging sites have names like "Profession - Hacking - Site 1 - Low Sec - Serpentis" or "Profession - ARCSAL - Site 2 - Low Sec" and so on. and they usually dont seem to have accelleration gates leading to them. tip regarding gates: try to use one in your pod. it will tell you what kinda ships are allowed in, so you know what to expect without warping your scanner boat in there)
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Dachtor
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Posted - 2006.12.15 01:06:00 -
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I have found a couple sites so far and to be honest they havent been worth it.
First one found was in a .6 system using gravimetric. Two stages gate is 70 km off. First gate had a couple minor frigs which were easily taken out. I was in a nighthawk so way way overkill. Went to second gate but realized this would be much faster in a assault frig so got my harpy. Second stage just a couple frigs but as i traveled teh 190 km to the miniature station there multiple spawns popped. It was almost as if once you reach certain distances more enemies spawned. Finally made it to little POS thing with a couple hangars as soon as i attacked the structure missile silos popped all over the place...Nice little trap but easily handled. Popped the structures and other than a little bit of ammo nothing of value. In the second stage there was a scordite asteroid that had a diameter of like 25 - 30 km, wonder how much scordite it contained, not that im a miner but the thought of selling the loaction to a macro miner was tempting.
Second location found was in .8 system and it contained about 15 roids of omber. This was caldari space and .8 so OK i guess for the real noobs. Gave the location to a 5 day old noob mining in a belt, he was probably happy.
Third location was in 0.0. It was called Radiance and at first I almost lost my covert ops when 5 drones with warp scramblers attacked immediatly upon entering. Thank god i had some weapons and was able to take out the one warp scramming me and warp out almsot into structure. So i learned a lesson warp in with cloak on. Anyway went and grabbed nighthawk and went back. First stage super easy but had a lot of spawns as i trecked the 45km to the next stage. Second stage i warped in to another 20-30 drones and some leaking containers. THe containers had nothing int hem but upon approaching them i got swamped with Drone Battleships and figs, enough to break my nighthawks tank which even the 0.0 gurista complexes cant do. I promptly warped out and sought friends to go back and finish it. Nothing really of interest other than a ton of drone minerals but i didnt pop the structures and the leaking containers were empty which struck me as odd.
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Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.15 01:58:00 -
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I've been playing around with this, have found 3 sites in an evening. Basicly you just go to a random system, drop a multispectral probe (the one with 900 au range or something, and 1 million scan strenght), and scan for cosmic signatures. If you get anything then you can start using the quest probes, if not then move on to the next system, no point in wasting quest probes before you know if there's something to scan for or not. One thing I'm wondering though.
If you drop 3 quest probes in a system, and you scan all 3 of them at the same time (they are not overlapping). If there is a cosmic signature on one of the probes will it show up correctly? Or will you have to scan them one at a time? --
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Iog Krugar
Gallente The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:35:00 -
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you can select them all and they will all be analyzed (apparently adding up their strengths for regions where they overlap). you may not find anything on the first scan. you may not find anything on the next ten scans as well... (sorry for the cynism, i'm in the second set of magnetometric quest probes in the same system right now. curses for the multispectral probe telling me that there actually is something to find here..)
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Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:46:00 -
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yea I gave up on this last system here, scanning for an hour or something, still nothing :/ Have a feeling you might want to update the multispeq scan once in a while. Reason is, these things move around alot right, so maybe you're scanning for something that has moved. Maybe do a scan of the multispec like every 5-10 times --
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Iog Krugar
Gallente The Rising Stars
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Posted - 2006.12.15 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Lightwielder Reason is, these things move around alot right, so maybe you're scanning for something that has moved. Maybe do a scan of the multispec like every 5-10 times
i had written down something disapproving and in the meantime i jumped into a system i checked for earlier tonight, which at that time had Radar sigs in it (ran a set of Radar Quest probes to no avail and left). now it has Radar and Unknown, so either there were 2 Radar sites and one is a deadspace area and was found by the resident explorer (who is offline atm, so i cant ask), or something moved in here over the last hours... will update this post if i find anything
tbh, i have a feeling that either the random() hates me today or it actually got harder to find stuff...
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Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.15 03:49:00 -
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yea same, feels like I should've found something, but scanned like each of my 4 probes like 5 times each to no avail. Guess in your case the unknown one moved in while you were gone --
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.12.15 06:17:00 -
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my finds so far were disappointing to say the least
post patch, using the new multis found 3 signals when I was on
1) found a blood raiders complex(forgot to note the name, i'll poke Errol see if he noted it) and ran it with a corpmate it let in BS's, wouldn't let in my alt's viator, it had 2 stages, maybe 15 BS's total, no real loot, so either I was late and someone beat me to it, or it sucked ass what was there was soloable in a domi w/t2 hvys
didn't see it escalate
2) found a gravi - tried scanning it down, but the gravi probes didn't come out of the oven till late my time, so I only ran a couple scans, my corpmate ran a bunch more, never did find it
3) found a magnetometric - the mag probes were still cooking when I went to bed
maybe i'll find something cool over the weekend, when I have more time
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Bambi
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:26:00 -
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people seem to be using probes dependant upon the faction who owns the sopace they are scanning in. DONT you will only find 1 in 4 sites that way... The signature type doesnt appear to be linked to race ata ll, more to type of complex.
Kind of a moot topic now that multispectrals are out. Made probing a little too easy IMO. You should be able to pinpoint anything by using just 3 probes now. One Multispectral to check the entire system for a siganture, 1 quest to find the signature then a sift to find the spot with 0m error.
Too easy.
[sig banned as it was just too damn good]
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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Sir Emi
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:54:00 -
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Ok so none found any good loot, here it is:
Found some datacores and part of a data interface I think... Found that in the first 1 hour, 6 hours later and 5 systems, nothing more... guess I was lucky
I'll let you know if I manage to build the data interface lol
Space Odyssey Maker...
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Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.16 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bambi people seem to be using probes dependant upon the faction who owns the sopace they are scanning in. DONT you will only find 1 in 4 sites that way... The signature type doesnt appear to be linked to race ata ll, more to type of complex.
Kind of a moot topic now that multispectrals are out. Made probing a little too easy IMO. You should be able to pinpoint anything by using just 3 probes now. One Multispectral to check the entire system for a siganture, 1 quest to find the signature then a sift to find the spot with 0m error.
Too easy.
have you really tried? Many systems are big, and you can't posibly cover it all with just 1 quest probe if you find something, and when you start scanning there's the chanse you wont find it where you scan even if it's there, so you have to do more scans all the freakin time. The multispeq probes make it at least manageable, and with the current "rewards" it's even to hard imo --
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kurtz abraham
Thief Hunters of Orion's Alliance Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2006.12.16 06:31:00 -
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sometimes you just have to stick with it, if it shows up on multi I reckon you can find it in time.... spent 3 hours determined and finaly got the begger and was very weak, had to use 5 sift probes even when i was up close to get within 74km.... site with no gate and some roids in a 0.7 system... 12 fiery kernite, 12 golden omber , 16 jaspet, 16 kernite, 12 luminous kernite, 19 omber , 12 pristine jaspet, 12 pure jaspet, 12 silvery omber
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.12.16 11:19:00 -
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update managed to track down one of the 2 we couldn't find was a blood raider insta argo(no warp gate) spawn, 5 or so BS's, couple BC's iirc(I was 2boxing, so only looked for stuff to kill, not how many there were)
when all was said and done 1 arch can we couldn't open(my luck there was an interface and a t2 bpc in there), as my lvl 2 in arch wasn't enough 1 salvage can we needed to get a corpmate to open(she had salvage 4) 0 hacking cans 2 arch cans I opened with a bunch of salvage parts 2 salvage cans with more salvage parts
and I mean salvage cans, as in wander upto them, salvage till successful, open them like a can
we are holding off on trying to find more till we have salvage/arch/hacking all at 4 just to be safe
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Saibotek
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Posted - 2006.12.18 18:07:00 -
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Here is what i have found.... i located in about an hour 1 plex in .5 space havent run it yet to see whats in it. A corp mate was off checking for more Grav sigs with the multispecs. he finds one. Off i go to be the hero. 4-1/2 hrs later 2 of us searching. when he was there i got 0 hits he got within 16000k with combs. I NEVER got a hit while he was online the second he dropped off i got a hit. and chased for another 2 hours closest i got was 35000k with combs but then it just disappeared. still showed on multi but i couldnt find it. his marks and mine are within .5au of each other. i didnt get any hit till i started with multi and worked down to combs. my only complaint is either this thing is there or not. this chance bit sucks. how can you find it 1/15 tries and get progressively closer and it not be there. i am working my other skills up. i hope this gets easier to me as time goes on. and how about a skill that allows collaboration amongst members of a gang 2 of us banging away with probes should find something i would think.or is this another isk sink.
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Ammath
The 5 Amigo's LLC. New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.18 22:44:00 -
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Ive found a 2-stage Gurista plex, a gurista burial ground, and some belts of Bistor in 0.0
i still cant find any "Invention Interfaces ie Esoteric Data Interface" etc... anyone find any of these? Ammath Director The 5 Amigos LLC
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