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50freefly
Caldari Purify
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Posted - 2006.12.01 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kendra Alias
Originally by: jason hill I often did wonder why only a fraction of the player base never bother to read the forums ....reading pointles threads like this one have made me realise why
Your comment was invaluable, thankyou for your time.
The thread is not pointless it is a discussion and I enjoy learning other peoples points of view to better my own udnerstanding.
I'm agreeing to disagreeing and going to play helicopter game, its quite addictive.
QFT about the helicopter game!!!
Anyways, I agree with you, but think this is in the wrong forum.
Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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50freefly
Caldari Purify
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Posted - 2006.12.01 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Fork Boy
Originally by: 50freefly not the PoliticalCorrectnessOnline Forums.
That word means nothing. It's only thrown as a last resort in when someone can't actually defend what they are saying.
You completely and totally missed the point of my post.
Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.01 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Fork Boy
Originally by: Thor Xian Bring your main if you want any kind of reasonable debate from me. I'm not a fan of cowards.
A coward? You think even coming here and trying to argue against almost everyone else is cowardly, when I could have just let it go by and no-one would have known? I don't see the relevance of my main in this issue.
Because it shows that you don't have the conviction in your own opinion/stance to not hide behind an alt.
If your main doesn't matter, why post with an alt?
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"Victory is the weakness of the enemy."
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Skawl
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.12.01 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: 50freefly
Originally by: jason hill I often did wonder why only a fraction of the player base never bother to read the forums ....reading pointles threads like this one have made me realise why
Sometimes people get confused and forget that these are the EVE-O forums, and not the PoliticalCorrectnessOnline Forums.
So offensive real life racial sterotyping should be allowed?
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.01 10:55:00 -
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Well personally i think we should respect peoples wishes - That name is doing no purpose to the user, and is causing harm in itself to other players. And i personally think we, and CCP should respect the playerbase.
So - im with you fork
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Celestal
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:00:00 -
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The OP name is an offensive term in the UK. Saying it isnt offensive because it is not offensive in USA/kazukstan/lithuania does not immediately render it inoffensive in the UK .
Tescos in UK ( a supermarket chain ) sell jars of kaffir leaves (KAFFIR LEAVES These leaves impart a wonderfully aromatic smell and flavour to, and are an essential ingredient in many Thai recipes.) , This does not make the term kaffir inoffensive world wide . Try visiting south africa and saying " kaffir leaves , 99p at tescos " everytime a local leaves the room ( for the ignorant the term kaffir , although originally meaning `unbeliever`( in god ) , came to be an extremely offensive/racist term for native africans.)
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until our real names/addresses/phone numbers are displayed with every post we are all alts . To bang on here about "post with main not alt" , does that mean you have no argument about his words so want to attack his char instead of his words ?
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50freefly
Caldari Purify
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Skawl
Originally by: 50freefly
Originally by: jason hill I often did wonder why only a fraction of the player base never bother to read the forums ....reading pointles threads like this one have made me realise why
Sometimes people get confused and forget that these are the EVE-O forums, and not the PoliticalCorrectnessOnline Forums.
So offensive real life racial sterotyping should be allowed?
I must have not made myself clear, because I have no idea what you're talking about.
Anyways, did the OP seem like an ebil racist to you? He sure as heck didn't to me, he seemed like an honest guy wanting to thank CCP for their hard work.
Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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spurious signal
Caldari Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:05:00 -
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The name is racist and offensive.
The content of the OP's post is irrelevant regarding this discussion. This is also NOTHING to do with political correctness.
CCP are risking opening themselves to charges of promoting racial hatred if they do not moderate such offensive names. If they have any sense at all they'll run it past their laywers ASAP and let them make the decision.
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Denator
Minmatar Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:07:00 -
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rofl @ this thread people that use Ö are giant turkeys!Ö Sig removed, please keep it under 24,000 bytes, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus |
Kendra Alias
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:09:00 -
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Quote: The name is racist and offensive.
I disagree
reasons listed above
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Uggster
Caldari Never'where
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:12:00 -
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JESUS !!!!!
If any pakistanis out their find the name really offencive they should
1. Speat to the OP ingame and ask him WTF ? or 2. Petition it with the GM's with an explanation as to why they find it offencive.
All these PC'ers here are doing my head in.
There are loads of little "digs" that people give and take throughout their lives and 99% of them are meaningless.
Heres and example : When I was young we have a mate called "Stan" That was not his real name, that was almost unpronuncerble but he was from pakistan so we called him "Stan" Did we hate him ? Did we think he was a D**k ir something ? No. In fact we were all in awe of his skill in flying side kicks and jumping spin kicks (11-12 year old playgroud combat 4tw) He did not mind and even kept the name into later life like a nickname between friends.
Everyone should just chill out, a real and nasty personal and/or raceist attack is very apparent to all who see or hear it. _______________________________________________
Sig removed as inappropriate- Tirg
Story of my life that one :(
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Kendra Alias
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:13:00 -
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Kind of just skimming this thread now, its repetative.
Valid points, but...
Quote: (11-12 year old playgroud combat 4tw)
Hilarious
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Indra Sebuchiore
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:19:00 -
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Congratualtions to Fork Boy for sticking with this one, even in the face of all the trolls. I, for one, agreee with him - the first thing I thought of when I saw the OP's name was that it was a racist term.
Whether it is or isn't where you come from is irrelevant to an extent; these are are English language forums where a large proportion are UK based and so will recognise it as a racist term. Even if they weren't it still wouldn't matter- the term would still be racist. The whole S3 kerfuffle a few months back, and that was over a Croatian language thing (IIRC).
Oh, and this is my main, so if anyone wants to take it up with me, feel free. Those saying using an alt is hiding, I think that's hilarious, this is an online game in case you didn't realise, and we're conversing through made-up computer avatars __________________________________________ "In girum imus nocte, et consumimur igni."
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Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:29:00 -
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jesus *bleeping* christ...get your heads out of yer already heavily packed arses. racist names...yeah..whatever..I thought this was 2006, and EVE Online, where people had more brains then that.
Theres plenty of retarded people running around in the real world being inhumanly picky about which WORDS (yes, they're WORDS!!!) hurt their little feelings. We don't need more of them..especially not something that dense..packyzcornershop...it's "packy" "corner" and "shop"..get over yourself, geez!
It's crap like this that make people try to kill each other..get over yourself and stop thinking that a name/word is going to ruin your entire life. Find something useful to do with your existance instead.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:30:00 -
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CCP use lawyers?
But no, i really think the guys name should be changed. He is offending many UK residents with it, and whether intentional or not, its offensive and should be changed due to CCP's EULA, and policy.
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Thamuzz
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:31:00 -
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For all those that would like to to preach "racism".. go and write a blog about it on myspace or something. Something will either be done about it or it won't and you need to get over it either way. I have to say that I don't condone racism in any way shape or form but it's always been around, always will be. To be honest, I've seen a whole lot of different threads, on a lot of different forums, but I didn't think I'd see something like this here. <expletive deleted>CornerShop, I reckon CCP are doing a great job as well. ( Btw stick a Brutor slave in the same room with an Amarrian warlord and see the variety of slurs they would come up with for each other!) Minmatar High School Football RULEZ!
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50freefly
Caldari Purify
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: 50freefly on 01/12/2006 11:33:54
Originally by: Indra Sebuchiore Congratualtions to Fork Boy for sticking with this one, even in the face of all the trolls.
Trolls?
And anyways, he stuck with it 'till about an hour ago, at which point arguments he could not respond to came up.
Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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Tareen Kashaar
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:33:00 -
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You know how silly you all would look if the OP turns out to be, in fact, a Pakistani corner shop owner? --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me!
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:34:00 -
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Just thought id say : Yes moaning is often pointless, when its about "AHH AMARR ARE OVERPOWERED!!!" But this isnt.
And Uggster - totally agree. But i will also say, that whilst that story is entirely a valid point of view, keep in mind that people who see such names, dont know the persons intentions. They dont know whether hes a 5 year old schoolkid who didnt know what he was doing, or whether hes a racist player, whos being relatively cruel. The fact is, people dont know their intentions unless they convo. And unless people convo, they'll get offended. And im quite sure people wont go around convoing them to ask if theyre racist.
In all honesty, i really believe just nuking the name, and changing it is the best way.
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50freefly
Caldari Purify
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau Just thought id say : Yes moaning is often pointless, when its about "AHH AMARR ARE OVERPOWERED!!!" But this isnt.
And Uggster - totally agree. But i will also say, that whilst that story is entirely a valid point of view, keep in mind that people who see such names, dont know the persons intentions. They dont know whether hes a 5 year old schoolkid who didnt know what he was doing, or whether hes a racist player, whos being relatively cruel. The fact is, people dont know their intentions unless they convo. And unless people convo, they'll get offended. And im quite sure people wont go around convoing them to ask if theyre racist.
In all honesty, i really believe just nuking the name, and changing it is the best way.
I honestly will add him to my addressbook and convo him, and if he says he did it to be racist then so be it, change his name. However, the point here is that the moaning IS pointless, especially when there are much better causes you can devote yourself to.
Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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Tareen Kashaar
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: 50freefly I honestly will add him to my addressbook and convo him, and if he says he did it to be racist then so be it, change his name. However, the point here is that the moaning IS pointless, especially when there are much better causes you can devote yourself to.
And besides, if you get offended by someone's nickname, petition it and don't whine on the forums. --- WTS: Forum Signatures, 30mil a piece. Evemail me!
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Volaria
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:43:00 -
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Well i think fork boy has a valid point. Are the rest of you that are disagreeing with him actually supporting the use of racist and derogatory names? dont think it's racist? alot of people will disagree with you. heres a couple of links ( most of the people arguing against it wont visit them but anyway)
scroll down to the term paki http://www.lorenjavier.com/asian/terminology.html
http://www.blink.org.uk/print.asp?key=2189
a snippet from the second link
The case, brought under the Football Offences Act 1991, established that even without accompanying swearing or insults, chants on football terraces incorporating the word were racist and illegal.
"It is odd and a shame that this is so in this country," Lord Justice Auld told the high court yesterday, "but the unpleasant context in which it is so often used has left it with a derogatory or insulting, racialist connotation.
"It is also all too familiar an expression to the courts, used as it so often is as a prelude to violence, whether provoking or offering."
while eve o forum isnt exactly a football terrace trying to imply that the word Paki isn't racist or offensive is like saying that calling someone a ****** has absolutely no racist implications.
in short, if you think a name that is a blatant derogatory term used by racists and thugs (in britain) should be allowed to be used freely just because it means nothing to you, then i think you need to crawl out from under your rock and take a look around.
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Tal Shai
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Posted - 2006.12.01 11:49:00 -
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For those struggling to see what fork boy is on about, its like that scene in Die hard 3 when bruce willis wanders through harlem with that billboard round his neck.
Sorry i see this as pure sarcasm
Ive played many game i.e WoW, SWG,Everqeust 1/2, matrix online,leanage 1/2 and many more after all of this i have to say Eve online has to be the most welcomeing best game ive ever played - Pre revelations
the reason is the devs are amazing to not let us down ever only gotta wait 3 weeks + to get your petitions sorted
we are also allowed to buy game codes which to some is a life savor
That name is offensive from a UK stand point
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