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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2005
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Posted - 2015.07.18 19:43:53 -
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Alex Thiesantes wrote: ...to only come to this conclusion. EVE is not a game for normal people. You're right! Probably why I like it. #cryforhelp
LOL - ITT: blatant ragequit claiming not to be ragequit...self-deception, deception, or both?...hmm...
"Cats? I like them and I don't like them".
- Erwin Schrödinger
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
127
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Posted - 2015.07.18 20:28:45 -
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Please come dance with me. Lets get in a spin together ..../winks
Sometimes finding what you like is always a side ways effect, like drifting
I love this video, The Hoonicorn "V8 Rally Car"
Sometimes giving up, before you can find what you like, isn't always the solution
EVEBoard ...Just over 26million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
46
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Posted - 2015.07.18 20:54:47 -
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EVE could solve this problem of rage quitting postings in General by just adding a Topic area called:
EVE Rage Quitting Center
People could feel free to post and vent as much as they want, saving ISD Barstorlode some time. |
Orlacc
881
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Posted - 2015.07.18 20:56:26 -
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Just remember, it was Zumm The Mad who coined the phrase "Can I have your stuff?"
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24338
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Posted - 2015.07.18 20:59:30 -
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@Celise Katelo the Hoonicorn is a monster, saw it rip up the hill climb @ Goodwood Festival of Speed a couple of weeks back
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:25:53 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:You need to find the right group in the game to find your like minded players. In this it sounds like you failed.
Easier said then done and you missed the part where he said "with the LITTLE free time he has after a days work".
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24340
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:56:44 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:You need to find the right group in the game to find your like minded players. In this it sounds like you failed. Easier said then done and you missed the part where he said "with the LITTLE free time he has after a days work". And this makes him any different from the rest of us how? Eves demographic is people approaching or over 30, a lot of us have full time jobs, a lot of us have families, a lot of us have other interests. We know all about the realities of having little free time, yet we manage just fine.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
11239
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Posted - 2015.07.18 23:29:49 -
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Most people only become victims of scammers due to their own greed. You're going to put something over on this moron, get yourself some goods and insta win at EVE. But in the end, the takers get taken. No one wants your stuff, I suggest you biomass.
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1295
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Posted - 2015.07.19 03:55:21 -
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Alex Thiesantes wrote:maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? in my experience this is exactly what eve is.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Vedor Teo
Raging Tapirs Illuminati Confirmed.
8
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Posted - 2015.07.19 03:55:52 -
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Each games are catered to different groups of players.
You have your own preference, though you don't have to be bitter about it. |
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Whipple Shai
Time and all Eternity DeepSpace.
26
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:10:07 -
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OK OP, just in case you're still reading your replies, I reference you this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5831953#post5831953 it's a post I made a while back. I don't wanna say it all over again.
Dr. Randy Paush said it best I think, "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." I've made crap-tons of mistakes in this game and I've learned from them. Learned enough that my follow on game experience was more fun.
For my time in game I've really had one overriding goal. To find a group of players who will accept this wounded veteran for what I can do and not expect more than what I'm able. But on the other hand I don't want anyone feeling sorry for me or not giving me the same opportunities. I just might have finally found it with this corp/alliance. But if I would have quit when I didn't I would have missed out.
While looking for that I've had opportunities to run a Corp that I messed up and it failed then one that didnt. Then an alliance in Wicked Creek that did, but only after a year, and only in Feb of this year. Did I mention I can't talk and I'm missing 25% of my brain from a little incident while in the Navy? And the game is too hard for you?
Pardon me while I search for my give a crap. Nope, can't find it. HTFU Sparkey. Or unsub. For real this time.
Whipple
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BlkQueen
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:12:22 -
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OP, dont listen to the trolls on this thread. I hear what your saying. Although I am not yet done with the game, I am getting there. I like you also played off and on for several years, have a 29mill pilot (not this toon trolls so feel free to place bounties on it like the griefing jacka@@es you are) and basically did mining in high sec. Now there are cretins like CODE suicide ganking us. Ask a question in Help channel? Got a bounty put on my head because the pvper did not like "Miners". The game is a griefers paradise, and dont let anyone tell you different. They like to play like its so in depth and complicated and thoughtful and...please with the ish. The game has no content, tons of trolls and griefers and the subs are finally starting to go down. WHen enough players leave the CCP devs (who are probably gankers and griefers as well) will finally do something.
GLuck finding a new game. More sandboxy MMOs are coming out and I intend on checking them out myself. |
Whipple Shai
Time and all Eternity DeepSpace.
26
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:20:47 -
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BlkQueen wrote:OP, dont listen to the trolls on this thread. I hear what your saying. Although I am not yet done with the game, I am getting there. I like you also played off and on for several years, have a 29mill pilot (not this toon trolls so feel free to place bounties on it like the griefing jacka@@es you are) and basically did mining in high sec. Now there are cretins like CODE suicide ganking us. Ask a question in Help channel? Got a bounty put on my head because the pvper did not like "Miners". The game is a griefers paradise, and dont let anyone tell you different. They like to play like its so in depth and complicated and thoughtful and...please with the ish. The game has no content, tons of trolls and griefers and the subs are finally starting to go down. WHen enough players leave the CCP devs (who are probably gankers and griefers as well) will finally do something.
GLuck finding a new game. More sandboxy MMOs are coming out and I intend on checking them out myself.
Here, have a tissue. Your game play issue is summed up in three words, " mining in hisec."
Get the hell outta hisec. I lost more ships on two accounts in three months in hisec than I have in two years on ten accounts living in null.
I'm a miner. Null. Is. Safer. Period.
Whipple
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
11254
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:32:47 -
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BlkQueen wrote:OP, dont listen to the trolls on this thread. You can report yourself for trolling you know. Little flag uptop your post "I'm trolling". That would at least remove most of the bad-trolls on this thread.
BlkQueen wrote:GLuck finding a new game. More sandboxy MMOs are coming out and I intend on checking them out myself. My little pony online. In closed early beta but the two of you bad trolls can shitpost in their forums and maybe get into their private testing. It's at some site called legends of equestria dot com or some such nonsense mmo, easily googled if you know what that is. You prolly already have it booked marked anyway.
You guys make CODE. look good. I liked the idea in the beginning, sort of fell out for me over time, but now looking so much more favorable. They don't need to PR themselves, you guys do a better job of it by far.
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2005
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Posted - 2015.07.19 05:47:01 -
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BlkQueen wrote:...have a 29mill pilot ... That is a long time to repeat one experience and think you know the game.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow
Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50755
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Posted - 2015.07.19 06:17:34 -
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Tiberius Heth wrote:Alex Thiesantes wrote:maybe just this, shouldn't a game be a place where a player can relax and get to do some FUN!!! stuff with like minded players after a day of work on the little free time he has? Your corp history shows that you have put in zero effort to find like minded people, as you put it. Who's fault is that, yours or the game's? Heh, Corp history doesn't mean anything unless it's filled with lot's of corps due to WarDec dodging.
Anyway, I understand the OP's point and quite honestly I agree with it. Over the years this game has steadily become more grim due to a steady influx of players with 'Grief' mentality, basically causing the game to lose it's fun factor.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
201
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Posted - 2015.07.19 06:49:45 -
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BlkQueen wrote:OP, dont listen to the trolls on this thread. I hear what your saying. Although I am not yet done with the game, I am getting there. I like you also played off and on for several years, have a 29mill pilot (not this toon trolls so feel free to place bounties on it like the griefing jacka@@es you are) and basically did mining in high sec. Now there are cretins like CODE suicide ganking us. Ask a question in Help channel? Got a bounty put on my head because the pvper did not like "Miners". The game is a griefers paradise, and dont let anyone tell you different. They like to play like its so in depth and complicated and thoughtful and...please with the ish. The game has no content, tons of trolls and griefers and the subs are finally starting to go down. WHen enough players leave the CCP devs (who are probably gankers and griefers as well) will finally do something.
GLuck finding a new game. More sandboxy MMOs are coming out and I intend on checking them out myself.
I've found the amount of GÇÿgriefingGÇÖ in the game seems to be reflective of the person being GÇÿgriefedGÇÖ much more than the one GÇÿgriefingGÇÖ. Now some players may not like miners at all, but there others who don't much care for afk miners in untanked ships. (I still can't see a good reason to use anything other than a Procurer)
As to the content, what do you want? Content laid out for you to follow and get your legendary ring? Quests and raids to make you the centre of that world?
Enough of that.
As to bounties, I'm a little surprised by mine as I thought the amount was a CODE thing. I was going to have gotten rid of it this weekend, but wasn't around for the roam.
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Keno Skir
751
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Posted - 2015.07.19 07:14:45 -
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAA! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
That is all.
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Lady Areola Fappington
2615
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Posted - 2015.07.19 07:30:39 -
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As CCP has said (and I'm paraphrasing) "There are good ways and bad ways to lose customers. If a customer fundamentally disagrees with the central tenets that make Eve Online what it is, then it's OK to lose that person as a customer.."
I feel like it's almost a part of the "All Me Right Now" Generation, in that it comes as a shock when a business says "Yeah, we don't work like that, please take your money and go elsewhere."
7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?
No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided.
--Eve New Player Guide
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Dark Reignz
Four-Q
41
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Posted - 2015.07.19 07:51:01 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:As CCP has said (and I'm paraphrasing) "There are good ways and bad ways to lose customers. If a customer fundamentally disagrees with the central tenets that make Eve Online what it is, then it's OK to lose that person as a customer.."
I feel like it's almost a part of the "All Me Right Now" Generation, in that it comes as a shock when a business says "Yeah, we don't work like that, please take your money and go elsewhere."
Is this the same customers who leave and then get spam mail with offers to come back. Maybe its that mentality that has lead to current decline in active players and the latest game update certainly hasn't caused an influx of players to come back as some of you numpties suggested it would...
The game is still in a big decline so losing players is not allright at all.
Troll Mode - ON
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
774
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Posted - 2015.07.19 07:58:34 -
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The alternative I use is ignoring the scum. It's what I do in real life too. I cant run around being the police.
Since I don't like scum, I don't behave like one myself. Which also means I won't scam people. Which you should not believe. Its bad practice even in RL.
With that statement I've also proven the OP to be a liar btw. But since we "all" know what he means....
PvP-ers don't hate miners. Certain people believe others care about their simplistic view. Which is obviously true based on the tears they generate from some other people. Doesn't mean it makes sense all of a sudden.
Stop caring about the opinion of some random dude on some random location about a random subject. Be a bit more selective who you pay attention to and EVE becomes a wonderful place with all kinds of stuff going on.
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Lady Areola Fappington
2616
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:05:51 -
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Dark Reignz wrote: Is this the same customers who leave and then get spam mail with offers to come back. Maybe its that mentality that has lead to current decline in active players and the latest game update certainly hasn't caused an influx of players to come back as some of you numpties suggested it would...
The game is still in a big decline so losing players is not allright at all.
And again, as said by CCP, if they ever get put in the position of having to undermine the core values of Eve, they'd much rather pull the plug and end things over changing Eve to be "Not Eve".
That's why the whole sub number threat doesn't work on CCP. As is, there is no direct connection between sub loss, and "bad things" happening to someone in Eve. The biggest sub killer is, remarkably, people who get stuck in "solo mode", get bored, and quit. CCP has even shown us, the biggest killer for new subs isn't getting ganked or scammed...it's not joining up with an active corp within 30 days.
I'm sure the vast majority of dedicated Eve players agree, that if CCP were ever put in the position of closing the doors vs. destroying the values Eve is based on, we'd rather them shut the doors. Thankfully, they agree on that point. Much rather they take Eve out behind the shed and put it down Old Yeller style, over a lingering, drawn out death changing crap just to chase sub numbers.
7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?
No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided.
--Eve New Player Guide
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Dark Reignz
Four-Q
41
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:17:33 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:lingering, drawn out death changing crap just to chase sub numbers.
You hit the nail on the head. My opinion is that this is exactly where the game is at right now.
Troll Mode - ON
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Frantix
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:18:12 -
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Alex Thiesantes wrote:you're
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
1228
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:24:10 -
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Dark Reignz wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:As CCP has said (and I'm paraphrasing) "There are good ways and bad ways to lose customers. If a customer fundamentally disagrees with the central tenets that make Eve Online what it is, then it's OK to lose that person as a customer.."
I feel like it's almost a part of the "All Me Right Now" Generation, in that it comes as a shock when a business says "Yeah, we don't work like that, please take your money and go elsewhere."
Is this the same customers who leave and then get spam mail with offers to come back. Maybe its that mentality that has lead to current decline in active players and the latest game update certainly hasn't caused an influx of players to come back as some of you numpties suggested it would... The game is still in a big decline so losing players is not allright at all. Eve may be suffering from decreased concurrent player counts right now, although the reasons for this are not at all clear and ultimately don't matter to you if your game is still fun. Let CCP worry about that.
That said, the last thing CCP should do is just toss out the core tenets of the game in desperation over subscriptions and they know this. Eve has been successful for 12+-years because it offers something found pretty much nowhere else in the gaming world - a single-universe PvP sandbox and all the complexity and interactions that provides. The reason Eve is still here and numerous sci-fi themed MMOs that were touted as supposed "Eve killers" have come and gone is that those WoW-in-space clones lack the player-driven stories, interactions and conflict that Eve offers.
Look at Elite: Dangerous. Only the most thoroughbred carebear finds that game entertaining for any length of time. Sure it is pretty, but without consequences there is little meaning to the actual gameplay and no matter what they add, the ability to opt-out of player conflict means it never will have meaning. It will always be a glorified spaceflight simulator, never a vibrant living universe like New Eden has become.
CCP would be insane to nerf the conflict out of the game, the major distinguishing feature of the game, to try to appeal to those wanting a single-player space game. There is no way a neutered version of their 2003-era space game could compete against the modern, and upcoming crop of sci-fi MMOs. That would be the surest way to kill Eve - those seeking a meaningful universe would quit or go elsewhere, and the newly attracted "instant-gratification, I-never-should-lose" generation gamers would tire of the antiquated PvE or completely consensual PvP game play and quit in six months. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2015.07.19 08:35:29 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Alex Thiesantes wrote:Wonder if there will be that typical eve player mind thing "can I have you're stuff?" Proof that I am indeed not typical, as I ask 'Can I have your stuff?'.
Sigh, everyone wants to be a troll so badly. Does it makes you feel that good?
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
972
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Posted - 2015.07.19 09:03:43 -
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I do believe that there is a balance issue in hisec and am not scared to say it, I said it with the mining barges and exhumers when they had the tank of a wet paper bag and no choice to get into a ship that was a challenge. I have no issue with ganking and see it as part of the game, but I do find the penalties applied to gankers in hisec too light, my view is docking penalties need to be applied. Of course the HTFU crowd will scream that I want to nerf ganking, but I just want more of a hit then losing a ship they expect to lose and a shuttle or noob ship. My proposal is that any -8.0 security standings have a docking penalty which scales with the security status.
The best thing about this game is the players and the worst thing about this game is the players, take it that in this game the hard boss you face are players, see it as a challenge to just operate in this game with the attitude of what is now the majority of players, if it moves shoot it, if it does not move still shoot it. The thing is that I play because I like to compete in a hard game where all the nasties have the advantage. Of course at times I look at the inbalances and think that CCP are a bit looeny, the most recent one was the D-scan immunity, however if you want a challenge of operating in a truly hostile environment where the cards are stacked against you then Eve is your game.
I have dropped out a few times when I got bored at just the same lameness, my pet hate is the elite afk cloaky crowd, its just so lame easy peasey that it is not a challenge to do, especially when they do not drop at the sniff of any risk to them, and yet you will find the same players raging on the forums about those lame carebears...
Like I said if you want a challenge then Eve has it, if you want an easy life then Eve is not for you, I play to be difficult to kill, I would rather cut my own nose off then give one of these simpering AFK cloaky lame asses a kill, and that is why I play Eve.
Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
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Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
1063
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Posted - 2015.07.19 09:36:52 -
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There is no need to nerf an activity that so rarely happens.
I'm just kidding of course.
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BlkQueen
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2015.07.19 10:16:57 -
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I knew the jacka@@es would come out of the woodwork for this thread with their phony elitist attitudes and stupid comebacks. They always do when someone speaks the truth on this game. High sec needs to be just that: High sec. If there is no safe space in the game then stop calling it that or provide more penalities against players that violate it. My gameplay should not be forced to take place in null because CCP Devs cant get their heads out of their asses and actually uphold their own self-imposed security levels. Thats just one example of how they cant get it right, along with attracting the MMO genres biggest griefers and gankers. Actually talking about this has made me cancel my sub. Ill finish out the month and then explore other options. No bitches, you cant have my stuff. Other than that have fun griefing other players! The ones that are still around that is ;) |
Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
499
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Posted - 2015.07.19 10:20:33 -
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BlkQueen wrote:High sec needs to be just that: High sec. If there is no safe space in the game then stop calling it that
Nobody is calling it safe space except people who misunderstand the game. It's called high sec because there is a higher level of security in place.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Attacked_in_Secure_Space |
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