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General Disarray9
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.20 17:48:15 -
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Hello Everyone,
I would like to briefly introduce myself. I have been playing EVE since 2009 (this is obviously an alt) and have been trading since 2010. Once I made my first billion I was hooked and haven't stopped since. I constantly scroll through the market to find high profit items so I decided I would offer my service to the public since I do it daily anyways.
What do you offer? I am here to offer my services of handpicking at least 50 items with a profit margin of 30% or greater every single day. There are a lot of spreadsheets out there for sale that make it easier for you to find high profit items but it is still very time consuming. My goal is to provide you with an evemail at the start of everyday with 50 hand picked items for that day. These items are guaranteed to have a 30% return. This eliminates all of the hassle of scrolling through the market or your spreadsheets to find what to trade next. With my service all you have to do is open my email and put those orders in for those items for that particular day.
What about competition? As of right now no one is using my service so the first few will have the upper hand on competition. I have also included fees associated with my service which will eliminate unnecessary trade volume. If this service takes off and there becomes too many subscribers for 50 items I will simply expand and provide more items to trade for that day. Lastly, as many traders know, an item with a good profit margin tends to change daily which is why I have decided to update each item daily. If a certain item drops below 30% profit I will replace it with a new item for the next day.
What does it cost me? I have decided to charge for this service since it takes me time to find each item daily. The fee will be 100m isk per day. With 50 handpicked items of over 30% profit margin, you can easily make that 100m back within the hour. If I can't find 50 items with over 30% profit for any particular day I will prorate the items at 2mil per item. For example, if I only provide 30 for that day, the cost will be 60mil instead of 100.
Lastly, I would prefer people to pay at least one week in advance that way we can avoid any delays. Since I am offering a new service you can try it out daily for the month of July and August. Note that if you do pay daily you will only receive that days pick once I receive the isk. It may take me a few hours to send it if you are not in the subscription plan. If you are in the subscription plan you will receive the list of items at a predetermined time daily.
All isk should be sent to this toon. If you are a new member please send me an evemail so I can note it in my records. If anyone has additional questions please feel free to mail me or post here. Look forward to hearing from you guys. |

General Disarray9
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.20 17:51:01 -
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RESERVED! :) |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Create Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.20 19:23:57 -
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Why are you posting on a two day old alt with no reputation instead of your six year old main who has been trading for five years? Why should we trust someone has to hide behind an alt with big claims and no proof?
You say handpicking, what benefit does this have over the numerous spreadsheets offered here? All of which that I've seen cost less than a week's worth of your service to buy outright.
You seem to like pushing the 30% margin, what 30% of what? Will you tailor these lists to your customer's wallet? Or will you just sell each person the same list of 50 officer mods that have such a low sales volume that even one person trading them is too many?
Will you be reevaluating the list before selling to the next person? Once you've sold if extra people start trading these items the margin is likely to close and you'll be selling a list of items with less than the 30% you guaratee.
Have you considered using a spreadsheet to find these items? It wouldn't take more than a few minutes with a correctly set up spreadsheet to create a list of items with a 30% or larger margin.
You say you should easily make the 100m fee in an hour, so after two hours you should be able to make 100m profit, that's 50% or less than the ISK you'd earn from Incursions, blizting high sec L4s, FW missions, null sec ratting. Could we get some more concrete numbers? 100m/hour doesn't sound very appealling after a 100m initial cost and more competition on the horizon.
And finally you want your fee to be paid one week in advance with no mention of a trusted third party to hold the ISK until you uphold your end of the deal. Would you trust a two day old character with no reputation, proof and nothing stopping them from biomassing once they received a few hundred million ISK?
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General Disarray9
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.20 20:23:33 -
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Hi Elizabeth,
Thank you for asking these types of questions. I will address each of them below:
- I am keeping my main trader separate for a few reasons. Simply because I do not think it would have any value added benefit since he does not have any reputation on the forums. Second, I would like to keep him separate for security purposes. I wouldn't consider this hiding behind an alt nor am I making big claims.
- To be honest, I am not sure how far the offered spreadsheets on the forums have progressed. I like to think of my service as an easier method for those who don't want to spend their time on spreadsheets. My service will eliminate the need for spreadsheets because I will send the client an email daily with the 50 picks for the day instead of them having to search through their spreadsheets.
- The 30% refers to the profit margin of an individual item. These items will be high volume items ranging anywhere from 100k to a couple hundred million. These will not be tailored to the customers' wallet for now, but that is a good idea and I may make an option for lower income players as well as wealthier players in the future. This list will have a bit of both in the meantime until I drive some interest.
- I used a third party tool to calculate the margins of profit. I still have to manually sort through all of the products.
- This really comes down to the player and the amount of time they want to spend on updating their orders. If a player dedicates a solid hour of utilizing all 50 items and making sure to stay on top of both sell/buy orders then there is a better opportunity for them to make more. I do not want to make claims about how much they can or can't make since that really comes down to the trader.
- That is a fair concern. However, stated in my initial post there is no need for paying one week in advance. You can simply pay for one day, and see if the items meet your standards. If you like it then you have the option to pay upfront to eliminate any delays. As for bio massing after a couple hundred mil, that just wouldn't be the wisest course of action. I would much rather serve 10 customers as best as possible and have them return and tell their friends and accrue more interest. If this did fall through and you saw a very similar post in the future you would instantly know its a scam. So doing this once for a couple hundred mil isn't worth it.
Very fair points though and I appreciate you bringing them up. This is EVE after all. |

General Disarray9
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:59:11 -
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Good morning! The daily hand picked items are ready and waiting. |

virm pasuul
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.22 00:29:12 -
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let's say for the sake of argument you have a vaid product. Why not post a sample? If part of the value you offer is daily updates, the sample will be out of date very quickly so you lose nothing. You do however gain credibility at no cost to yourself. if you really want to establish credibility post a sample every day for a week to prove how good your service is. If people make money off you sample they will surely use that profit to subscribe to your service - everybody wins.
Unless of course it's a scam in which case you'll need to provide all sorts of excuses why you can't instead......
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General Disarray9
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.22 03:18:19 -
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virm pasuul wrote:let's say for the sake of argument you have a vaid product. Why not post a sample? If part of the value you offer is daily updates, the sample will be out of date very quickly so you lose nothing. You do however gain credibility at no cost to yourself. if you really want to establish credibility post a sample every day for a week to prove how good your service is. If people make money off you sample they will surely use that profit to subscribe to your service - everybody wins.
Unless of course it's a scam in which case you'll need to provide all sorts of excuses why you can't instead......
That sounds very counter intuitive. For one, a sample would be my product making worthless if I am giving it away for free. Second, if that sample becomes out of date it no longer shows that my service is good or worthwhile. You also add the entire forum to trade that particular item right away making it go out of date extremely fast.
For example, if someone saw that I posted Miner IIs for example that had a 30% margin and everyone on the forum saw it and traded it then it would lose its margin within the hour. Then I would have someone like you try it after a few hours of being "sampled" and you would call it a scam and I would lose credibility.
What I am offering is a one day trial. All you have to do is try it for one day. If you like it continue to use it. If you don't then don't. There are no contracts, and a small upfront fee. Worst case you lose your initial investment. I will try my best to keep all of my customers happy. If you don't make any isk I will help you out the next day and provide it for free or a smaller fee. |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.07.23 03:21:03 -
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Daily Bump! |

vccv
65
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Posted - 2015.07.23 09:26:05 -
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Larontra, is it you??
This reads like the same rhetoric provided in Market Discussion earlier in the month, which was never delivered upon while taking in "donations"...never replying back.
Some customer validation would do you good, if anyone takes the risk.
I find an "alt" providing the same style of "market help" in one month a bit uncanny is all.. |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
1
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Posted - 2015.07.23 16:05:34 -
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Hi Vccv,
I have no association with Larontra nor do I know what she does. After playing around with the numbers I think 100mil is quite fair since the profit potential is there.
I will send you an eve mail and we can chat about maybe trying out a few items to ease your mind.
Again, the 700mil to avoid delays is once that trust is gained. I do not require nor recommend that anyone new to this service pays 700mil right out of the gate. Try it out, if you like it continue the service, if you do not, then let me know what you don't like and I can see what I can tweak.
I obtained my first client yesterday and will ask him to post on the forum when he is satisfied.
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General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.07.24 04:23:00 -
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Goodnight Bump! |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.07.24 23:49:03 -
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Join today and start making millions! |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.07.26 02:10:03 -
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Daily Bump! |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.07.27 16:01:37 -
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Daily Bump! Be one of the first to try this new service! |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.07.29 00:38:26 -
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Lets go boys! Try it now! |

James Zealot
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.29 02:47:29 -
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While I like the thought here, 50 items make 30% daily is pushing it. I can go find items with that spread but take a look at volume and volatility. Is it feasible on a daily basis with these items? Can you sell them, say, in a week? Without spending countless hours each day updating your sell orders every 5 minutes to stay on top? If so, I suggest every trader sign up now. It's just highly doubtful. Again, good idea here though. |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.07.31 04:10:15 -
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James Zealot wrote:While I like the thought here, 50 items make 30% daily is pushing it. I can go find items with that spread but take a look at volume and volatility. Is it feasible on a daily basis with these items? Can you sell them, say, in a week? Without spending countless hours each day updating your sell orders every 5 minutes to stay on top? If so, I suggest every trader sign up now. It's just highly doubtful. Again, good idea here though.
Hey James, I appreciate the feedback. After speaking with the first few customers of mine they preferred to stay away from the 30% profit margin. It is very possible to have a 30% profit margin on 50 items on a given day however these tend to change every day (hence why my service is a subscription) I do however still provide the 50 items with 30% margin but these items are often cheaper such as ammo etc. I am now offering the biggest isk profit for that day.
For example, a 30% margin is rather small on an item costing 10k. I have seen a higher interest in an item that may cost a few mil but has a isk profit of 1-2mil per item. These items often do not have the 30% margin but will yield a bigger return.
Lastly, these items could change within the hour, could go all day, could be a week. From my experience however I would say that the majority of items with a high isk profit will not last longer than a day. What I suggest to my clients is that if they wake up and feel like trading that day then they buy the list and dedicate a few hours to trading it. If they don't want to trade the next day then you can simply not purchase the list for that day.
I hope that clears up some of your concerns, I will also update the inital forum post to clarify the new strategy |

Larontra
Empire of the Forsaken Dark Crusade
4
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Posted - 2015.07.31 10:57:47 -
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General Disarray9 wrote:Hi Vccv,
I have no association with Larontra nor do I know what she does. After playing around with the numbers I think 100mil is quite fair since the profit potential is there.
I will send you an eve mail and we can chat about maybe trying out a few items to ease your mind.
Again, the 700mil to avoid delays is once that trust is gained. I do not require nor recommend that anyone new to this service pays 700mil right out of the gate. Try it out, if you like it continue the service, if you do not, then let me know what you don't like and I can see what I can tweak.
I obtained my first client yesterday and will ask him to post on the forum when he is satisfied.
Way to go man eat a fat **** **** rippin on my idea. Lol, you dont know me, then why did you mail me and ask me questions? |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
8
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Posted - 2015.07.31 14:48:54 -
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Are you talking to me? Show me proof of the mails troll.
*Also, I just looked you up and we don't do the same thing at all. You are writing a guide I am providing a service. I am very lost with why you need to use such aggression. |

Serious Citizen
Core World Imperium NINE PIECES OF EIGHT
1
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:09:42 -
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Lets say I don't want a list everyday. For example, what if I only wanted Mondays list and the other days I don't want. Would that be tolerable? Also, do they all have to be close to the 30%? My success while trading has mostly come with 15% and below, the 30% margin profit to time ratio usually shows its not worth it when dealing with higher margin items.
Also, are you going to provide these lists in relatively stable items? Several items will spike because someone bought a ton of them, I'm assuming you're going to let us figure that out?
Lastly, if this service grows large you will be putting a cap on subscriptions won't you?
Would you be willing to do the first day at half off so I can test the waters so speak? If you're everything you say you are there should be no concern.
Thanks,
Fly Smart!
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ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:29:58 -
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Quote: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
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Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
Offending Posts have been removed. Keep it civil People. |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.07.31 20:35:01 -
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Serious Citizen wrote:Lets say I don't want a list everyday. For example, what if I only wanted Mondays list and the other days I don't want. Would that be tolerable? Also, do they all have to be close to the 30%? My success while trading has mostly come with 15% and below, the 30% margin profit to time ratio usually shows its not worth it when dealing with higher margin items. Also, are you going to provide these lists in relatively stable items? Several items will spike because someone bought a ton of them, I'm assuming you're going to let us figure that out? Lastly, if this service grows large you will be putting a cap on subscriptions won't you? Would you be willing to do the first day at half off so I can test the waters so speak? If you're everything you say you are there should be no concern. Thanks, Fly Smart! 
Hi Citizen,
You can of course use the list for only one day a week. I actually recommend my clients to only purchase the list on the days that they use it. I recommend only purchasing the list when you can spend a couple hours updating the orders for the products.
As mentioned in the second post, the margin is less of the focus now since you can get high margin items that are only a few thousand isk. After hearing the criticism of my clients they were more interested in a large isk difference rather than the margin. These will have a couple mil profit per item and might only have 20% margin.
As for market spikes there is no guarantee that this won't happen. Some wanker could close the gap within the hour. From my experience however, some items will lose their profit margin while others will hold for a day or two. I provide 50 items to make sure you still have a lot of items to trade with even if some fall.
I will definitely be putting a per day market cap on this service. I have not decided on what number that is yet but I am all ears for suggestions.
Lastly, I will do you one better and provide you with 10 items completely free of charge. If you see the profit earning potential I would love for you to become a client. If you like what you see all I ask is for a forum post of your thoughts. Send me an evemail with your a google account that I can send the google docs to.
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Serious Citizen
Core World Imperium NINE PIECES OF EIGHT
1
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Posted - 2015.08.01 23:06:37 -
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General Disarray9 wrote:Serious Citizen wrote:Lets say I don't want a list everyday. For example, what if I only wanted Mondays list and the other days I don't want. Would that be tolerable? Also, do they all have to be close to the 30%? My success while trading has mostly come with 15% and below, the 30% margin profit to time ratio usually shows its not worth it when dealing with higher margin items. Also, are you going to provide these lists in relatively stable items? Several items will spike because someone bought a ton of them, I'm assuming you're going to let us figure that out? Lastly, if this service grows large you will be putting a cap on subscriptions won't you? Would you be willing to do the first day at half off so I can test the waters so speak? If you're everything you say you are there should be no concern. Thanks, Fly Smart!  Hi Citizen, You can of course use the list for only one day a week. I actually recommend my clients to only purchase the list on the days that they use it. I recommend only purchasing the list when you can spend a couple hours updating the orders for the products. As mentioned in the second post, the margin is less of the focus now since you can get high margin items that are only a few thousand isk. After hearing the criticism of my clients they were more interested in a large isk difference rather than the margin. These will have a couple mil profit per item and might only have 20% margin. As for market spikes there is no guarantee that this won't happen. Some wanker could close the gap within the hour. From my experience however, some items will lose their profit margin while others will hold for a day or two. I provide 50 items to make sure you still have a lot of items to trade with even if some fall. I will definitely be putting a per day market cap on this service. I have not decided on what number that is yet but I am all ears for suggestions. Lastly, I will do you one better and provide you with 10 items completely free of charge. If you see the profit earning potential I would love for you to become a client. If you like what you see all I ask is for a forum post of your thoughts. Send me an evemail with your a google account that I can send the google docs to.
Sounds good to me, can send me a list Tomorrow and I will take a look, will give a vouch if it checks out.
Thanks,
Serious
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General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.08.02 03:42:54 -
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Bump! Try it now for just a day! |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.08.05 04:44:49 -
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Bump |

General Disarray9
SC Trading Company
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Posted - 2015.08.07 03:34:01 -
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Now offering a free trial! Send me an evemail with your google account so I can share the google docs of the day! |

General Disarray9
Crazy 303
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Posted - 2015.08.08 06:08:14 -
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Bump |

General Disarray9
Crazy 303
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Posted - 2015.08.15 11:28:34 -
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bump |

RUS0
FRISKY BUSINESS. No Handlebars.
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Posted - 2015.08.20 11:11:34 -
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General Disarray9 wrote:bump Are you still alive ? |

General Disarray9
Crazy 303
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Posted - 2015.08.28 21:08:13 -
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Service is back in action, had RL drama had to deal with. That is over now and service is back up. |
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