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RedooM Meed
Caldari Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.04 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: RedooM Meed on 04/12/2006 18:33:43
From this morning discussion in the corp around the Drake
[ 2006.12.04 13:42:03 ] (hidden) > I got a drake bpo btw guys [ 2006.12.04 13:42:06 ] Maximada > (hidden) wheres the drake bpo [ 2006.12.04 13:42:10 ] (hidden) > empire [ 2006.12.04 13:42:16 ] (hidden) > (hidden) [ 2006.12.04 13:42:31 ] Maximada > we need it [ 2006.12.04 13:42:46 ] RedooM Meed > ill have the mins asap [ 2006.12.04 13:42:49 ] RedooM Meed > :P [ 2006.12.04 13:42:52 ] RedooM Meed > want one lol [ 2006.12.04 13:42:57 ] (hidden) > lol [ 2006.12.04 13:43:00 ] Maximada > a gang of drakes would go down nicely [ 2006.12.04 13:43:07 ] RedooM Meed > yep [ 2006.12.04 13:43:15 ] (hidden) > surely the aim is to stay alive, rather than go down? =P [ 2006.12.04 13:43:17 ] Maximada > ive owned one allready nice ships [ 2006.12.04 13:43:17 ] RedooM Meed > only bc at lvl 3 tho [ 2006.12.04 13:43:40 ] Maximada > i can use rigs now too [ 2006.12.04 13:43:40 ] RedooM Meed > 4 days for lvl 4 [ 2006.12.04 13:43:48 ] (hidden) > thing is, drake uses as much zydrine as a scorpion.. [ 2006.12.04 13:44:01 ] RedooM Meed > woot woot [ 2006.12.04 13:44:19 ] Maximada > get an order on the market [ 2006.12.04 13:44:27 ] (hidden) > i mean, which would you rather have in your gang [ 2006.12.04 13:44:30 ] (hidden) > scorpion or drake [ 2006.12.04 13:44:39 ] RedooM Meed > scorp
- Some part of the convo where hidden for obious reasons but that kind of narrows it down to some point.
Cheers
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Mila Prestoc
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Posted - 2006.12.04 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 04/12/2006 18:34:00 I fail to see your point...
Gang preference = ECM ship > missile/tank ship ?
or just the production costs? -------------------------
Originally by: "Lord Violent" EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid, catered to by devs as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.04 18:51:00 -
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drake is scary as a gang ship where it can dedicate its meds to all tank....16k shield hps with good resists, plus awesome damage. i have bc lvl5, fought a drake pilot with bc lvl3, and he pwned me in my harbinger right good....but he had no tackle gear. tbh, he could have dropped 1 shield mod for a scram and he would have won. good thing he was in my corp, and it was just a test.
Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
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RedooM Meed
Caldari Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.04 19:22:00 -
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Just dont see the point in engaging a pvp fight with a ship that as limited tactical capacities in front of a BS that goes 20 mil cheaper still tech 1 that has more versatility then a bc tech 1 equivalent.
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Dupac
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.04 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: RedooM Meed Just dont see the point in engaging a pvp fight with a ship that as limited tactical capacities in front of a BS that goes 20 mil cheaper still tech 1 that has more versatility then a bc tech 1 equivalent.
If you are getting a scorp for 20mil less than a drake - either you are paying waaaaay too much for the drake or I'd love to know where you are getting the half price scorps.
I've been using a drake all day tanking and killing multiple BS spawns - it's a nice ship.
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Ariel Stardust
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Posted - 2006.12.04 20:31:00 -
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PvE wise how much better is the Drake faring over a missile Ferox?
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Dahak2150
HellBrothers Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.04 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Stardust PvE wise how much better is the Drake faring over a missile Ferox?
As much better as you can imagine.
And then some.
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Taram Caldar
Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.12.04 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mila Prestoc Edited by: Mila Prestoc on 04/12/2006 18:34:00 I fail to see your point...
Gang preference = ECM ship > missile/tank ship ?
or just the production costs?
Actually right now I'd rather have the extra DPS of a drake in gang. Scorps suck since the ECM nerf hit them. 10% per level doesn't make up for 50% reduction in ECM power. Even at BS 5 you are at 25% reduction in ECM strength. (Remember, ECM itself is at half power. So the 50% boost is to HALF the strength. IE: it went from 7 to 3.5 strength then 50% boost takes it to roughly 5 strength
ECM is WEAK now. Most ECM pilots are giving up on it other than the Rook pilots out there And even they are having a hard time on larger ships.
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Raxxan
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Posted - 2006.12.04 20:41:00 -
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Well i actually think its good that ECM got nerfed. It was way too owerpowered before if you ask me, and i dont say that just because i got killed and went "OMGWTFOVERPOWEREDNERFIT!!11!", i use it as well and i think its good its a bit weaker now, for the sake of balance.
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2SecondsTilMidnight
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Posted - 2006.12.04 23:09:00 -
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I don't understand what your post is suppose to be saying? That you personally prefer scorp over drake? To each his own... Scorp = ECM ship Drake = BC missle boat
I personally have around 8mil total sp in BC5, various missle skills, and shield skills that all benefit the drake. While having practically zero sp in ecm. I would rather have a drake than a scorp.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.05 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Stardust PvE wise how much better is the Drake faring over a missile Ferox?
You've got nearly 2x the DPS when a Drake uses Kinetic missiles (8.75 'effective' launchers).
You've also got an extra midslot for tanking. The Drake will blow the Ferox out of the water in every possible way for PvE imo.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Nukeitall
Nukeitall Coterie
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Posted - 2006.12.05 01:06:00 -
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OP makes a valid point. Even if the scorpion is only able to jam 2 people it has still proved to be more effective then the drake. It still has it's onboard weapon systems - which can be signifigant. (though not spectacular) --------- >>Disclaimer: Anything Nukeitall says is not to be taken seriously. Mostly. |
Slayton Ford
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Ariel Stardust PvE wise how much better is the Drake faring over a missile Ferox?
You've got nearly 2x the DPS when a Drake uses Kinetic missiles (8.75 'effective' launchers).
You've also got an extra midslot for tanking. The Drake will blow the Ferox out of the water in every possible way for PvE imo.
Although I'm low on SP (sub 2 mil), you are so correct on this. I went from a Thor to a Drake and it makes a huge diff on PvE. Not sure what I'm going to do w/ my Thorax.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.05 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Slayton Ford
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Ariel Stardust PvE wise how much better is the Drake faring over a missile Ferox?
You've got nearly 2x the DPS when a Drake uses Kinetic missiles (8.75 'effective' launchers).
You've also got an extra midslot for tanking. The Drake will blow the Ferox out of the water in every possible way for PvE imo.
Although I'm low on SP (sub 2 mil), you are so correct on this. I went from a Thor to a Drake and it makes a huge diff on PvE. Not sure what I'm going to do w/ my Thorax.
Sell it and buy your Drake a better fitting.
Going from a teir 3 cruiser to a teir 2 BC is a huge jump regardless of the race jumping though.
Still, sell that thorax and get yourself some t2/named stuff for your drake so it kills better.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: RedooM Meed Just dont see the point in engaging a pvp fight with a ship that as limited tactical capacities in front of a BS that goes 20 mil cheaper still tech 1 that has more versatility then a bc tech 1 equivalent.
R you saying you paid 120M for a drake? really?
ehm.. if you want more of those, let me know... I can build them and sell them you @ 115M... special price just for you
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.05 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Originally by: RedooM Meed Just dont see the point in engaging a pvp fight with a ship that as limited tactical capacities in front of a BS that goes 20 mil cheaper still tech 1 that has more versatility then a bc tech 1 equivalent.
R you saying you paid 120M for a drake? really?
ehm.. if you want more of those, let me know... I can build them and sell them you @ 115M... special price just for you
? did the price of scorps just jump out the roof with kali? I never paid more than 62 mil for one.
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Malev Volos
Caldari Shadows of the Dead Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 09:50:00 -
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I would suggest never comparing 2 different types of ships all in all, an ECM BS with a Damage Dealing BC are not comparable at all. Even if it is price wise, each to his own.
Its simple to see that a Drake has some advantages over a missile Ferox.. better tank and missile damage. Yet a rail Ferox can surprise some adversaries if you know how and can fit one properly. I just think that each ship has its own place, pve.. well missiles are pwn and easy peasy, but for pvp I would think guns would be better with insta damage, then again that is only my opinion.
The Drake is a good ship imho, so is the Ferox, each fits in a different niche, each fills a different role.
As to mineral costs, it may use the same zyd but not the same cost overall, remember its been a week since release, inflation is key for everyone gouging to make a huge profit.. stupid is he who is stuck without his own supply of minerals trying to buy a ship off market... or buy them off the market also.
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