Obviously I cannot speak for the Federation - let the disavowals and jingoistic speech of others suffice.

No society under an anarchistic structure (or non-structure to be more precise) ever declared war on anybody.

No child is ever unguided. They always mimic the behavior of others they see and interact with. Children who grow up with nothing to mimic are not fit to live at all. The mere idea of observing "pure instinct" is broken by design.

I also recommend reading your favorite encyclopedia's entries on "naturalistic fallacy" and "is-ought problem".

Yes, maybe I wasn't clear enough with my statement.

What I tried to say is that peace is such a condition that you don't have to explain it because its simple. Such simplicity can be found only in the pure reasoning of the youngest of children that, as you said, pull off the wings of butterflies and push around smaller and younger children not because they are being "bad", but because they are being inocent. This has nothing to do with war, nor with peace as someone needs tons of words to describe.

From a short reading on both topics I agree with your objection but it does not contradict my basic point - that we as human beings are at least as prone to violence as peace, and that peace is not a more natural state than conflict.

I seriously doubt that any traditionalist believes that the BoR is about "peace and love".

"There will be neither compassion nor mercy;
Nor peace, nor solace
For those who bear witness to these Signs
And still do not believe."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10

Trying to turn that into a message of peace and love requires the kind of blindness only certain Amarrians on IGS can muster.

So where are they hiding the war at? Last I checked they pay capsuleers to supposedly fight a war for them instead. Barring a limited few engagements, nothing is spoken of any warfront among the two navies of Caldari and Gallente.

The "war' is nothing but a distraction from the political stagnation of the Federation and the impending economic failure of the Caldari State's fiscal behavior and monetary policy.

Don't worry... Mr. Hawke doesn't speak for the Intaki...neither for the Federation.

That phrase implies that compassion, mercy, peace and solace will all be enjoyed by those who do believe once the Reclaiming is over.

This is true for all of us, thankfully.

By the way you and your organization are the ones who can speak the least about peace (Mr. Hawke included) as you've engaged in military actions against Caldari MIlitia forces for several times. This is public information and it ruins your credibility. Or Mr. Hawke's. You can't speak about peace when you take sides...

Vechtor,

I'm not sure what has poisoned you against the cause you once claimed to support...

One day not long ago you decided to spit venom on those same people and declared ILF an enemy. In doing so you betrayed their trust and respect. Now you come here whining about not receiving "FULL recognition" for the things you have done? Congratulations, you have our attention now.

So then you bring up the question of neutrality in the war between the empires. Elements within the Caldari militia have proven time and again their stance regarding Intaki and their total disregard for the value of the lives residing there. What would you have us do, stand idly by and ask or expect others to bloody their hands for us? Do you honestly think we should just lie down and allow our pilots to be railroaded and killed by those pirates simply because we are supposed to be "neutral"? Being neutral does not mean we give up our right to defend ourselves from maniacal sycophants who **** on our front doorstep!

ILF does not exist to breed prolific killers or collect enemies simply to give idle pilots something to shoot at. It exists for the betterment of Intaki and her people. It is true we need warriors to help achieve that end, but simply being a cudgel would make us no better than them. So yes, we strive, above all else, for a just and lasting peace. We strive to minimize our application of violent force wherever possible, but sometimes violent force is still necessary. Sometimes we'll slip up, but as someone else pointed out, we're still just human. We learn and move on.

A truly wise warrior knows when to draw his sword (or pistol, or warship) and when to leave it sheathed. Through experience, the Suresha understands this. Do you?

While I am unaware of the full extent of you're dealings between yourself and the ILF Vechtor. I do know that the ILF with the full extent of the IPI have been more of a positive influence onto the Intaki populace then a negative factor.

It is easy to criticize someone for his shortcomings when he makes the effort for change, then it is to criticize someone who has not made the effort at all. Think about it. I do not see anyone else making the attempts for peace as the ILF have for years nor do I expect it... in these times we have chosen the path of fear and hatred. In return we the majority shall be ruled by it.

Since we're going public, here's this - Vechtor, for the record, I was against you joining KISEC, and I was glad to see you go.

You're not even worth the skin off my knuckles, junior. You put fire to everything you touch, Vechtor, then you walk away while it burns.

I've got nothing more to say to you.

Your logs of our conversations is more proof of you being untrustworthy than it is portraying me as a spiteful woman.

...And I thought brother Archbishop's sermons were long-winded.

The logs has been forwarded to Saxon Hawke and Sakaane by me, and I am not afraid of what was in them. The cards are on the table, and you have been disarmed. The game is over and you have lost.