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Aladine
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Posted - 2006.12.08 07:06:00 -
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Hey all im going to buy my first Battleship in the next 2 days. I am getting the last requirement right now. I have Large energy guns to lv 3 and im looking for some good tips!!!
IĘm not sure which one to getą I primarily do solo missions and ratting, but I also do group ratting and a little pvp. I have enough money to buy and equip all the ships available, but thatĘs about it.
I would really donĘt know wich ship to get. I really want to try out tachs, but I also will probably try megas up-close, but I hear they kill your cap. (my cap skills are only at 4 right nową.) Most of the time im solo and doing missions, ratting, and would love to do complexes!!!
Please recommend AMARR Battleships only! :) Thanks a lot!!
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2006.12.08 07:25:00 -
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you'll want an apoc
and mega pulses don't kill your cap, tachyons do ;)
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Dixon
Caldari Hells Donkeys
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Posted - 2006.12.08 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dixon on 08/12/2006 08:00:43 low skill point Apoc for ratting/missions:
8 Mega Modulated Pulses 1 100MN AB, Tracking Computer, Web, Cap injector Large Rep, 4x rat specific hardener, 2x heat sink
15 rat specific light drones
Charges: Multi frequency, X-ray, Ultraviolet and Microwave...
Should make easy work of most missions and 0.0 spawns - - - - - -
Originally by: Ath Amon as long as there will be such umbalance there is no hope to make ships balanced...
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Soraya Kha'marr
Amarr Gun Metal Priests The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.12.08 08:16:00 -
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get a 'geddon! its more useful/versatile than an apoc, cheaper and usually outdamages the apoc. Dont get the abaddon unless you really feel comfortable risking that much $$$ for a better geddon that takes much more skill to fly (player skill).
This space is mine, mine alone!!!oneoneeleven! (You can rent it for cookies though.)
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Krulla
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Soraya Kha'marr get a 'geddon! its more useful/versatile than an apoc, cheaper and usually outdamages the apoc. Dont get the abaddon unless you really feel comfortable risking that much $$$ for a better geddon that takes much more skill to fly (player skill).
The Apoc is vastly more low-skill point friendly than the geddon, due to it's cap bonus.. almost everyone can slap a dual LAR tank on it, and run it infinitely..
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Imechal Ravpeim
Amarr International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.08 09:52:00 -
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Pick the one you think looks sexiest. Personally I love my Geddon. The way I've set it up is perfect for ratting the way I want to.
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Viktor VonCarstein
Amarr Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.08 09:56:00 -
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Apoc
6 x Mega Beam 2 x Med Beam
4 x Cap Recharger 2
2 x LAR 3 x Rat Specific Hardener 2 x Cap Relay
Drones Hammerheads
Mission running setup replace with tech 2 or best named where possible. Tanks all day replace cap relays with heat sink when tank not a problem. Safest amarr bs for mission running.
Apoc also best battleship for mining fit with tank 8 miner II's mining upgrade and cargo expanders depends on what you can fit.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 10:00:00 -
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Armageddon is easily the best all around BS for the money. You can't go wrong choosing it.
~Thor Xian, Chief Administrator
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.08 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Xian Armageddon is easily the best all around BS for the money. You can't go wrong choosing it.
Unless you are fighting Minmatar t2 ships :) --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
Olev
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:12:00 -
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apoc tank bether than the geddon,but the geddon do bether damage.. i think the apoc is slow and crappy damage,so i used the geddon,but thats me
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2006.12.08 11:36:00 -
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I prefer Apoc. It doesn't loose out on a bonus if you fit another type of weapon. On the Angle missions (especially lvl 4's) Artilleries are a good thing to have. Also the extra cap for tanking.
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Brother Tycho
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:14:00 -
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Get a Harbinger its better than the BS's lol
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Etherios
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.08 12:20:00 -
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Armageddon does more damage is cheaper BUT its a more skill heavy ship than the Apocalypse. U dont have the gunnery skills to fast kill the rats before ur tank fails so the Apocalypse is the best choice for you. Big capacitor lot of armor more easy to fit Mpulses and it can handle more mistakes than the Armageddon. The first ratting i ever did was back in Paragon Soul when stain was still alive and i was using an Apocalypse with medium beam lasers. I was killing all but the faction spawns with no problem.
So i think u should go for Apocalypse + med and light drones. Get a web or a painter and u can kill anything. You will just take 1-2 mins more to kill a spawn than if u had the Armageddon. Safer > Speed(which isnt that faster)
Last Apocalypse is FAAARRR preatier than the *****... even tho in PvP the ***** flocks hell better...
True sight isn't given to all that look for it.
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:24:00 -
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You don't need so many crystals tbh. Just carry Multifrequency (for close range) and Microwave (for long range) and it should be enough for all your killing purposes.
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Brother Tycho
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Exogene You don't need so many crystals tbh. Just carry Multifrequency (for close range) and Microwave (for long range) and it should be enough for all your killing purposes.
Standard crystals.
if your skills are to low to deal enough dmg to kill with standard cristals move to x-rays but muti specs should be kept for emergencys they cause the cap drain on lasers to go through the roof.
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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:40:00 -
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Apoc is best when you have lower end skills because the extra capacitor is what you need to stay alive. With higher end skills, you can use a geddon for it's higher damage and you still won't have cap issues.
-Bart
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Thor Xian Armageddon is easily the best all around BS for the money. You can't go wrong choosing it.
Unless you are fighting Minmatar t2 ships :)
I'm sure it does alright vs them too, just takes longer.
~Thor Xian, Chief Administrator
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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gu o
Amarr DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2006.12.08 18:29:00 -
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Personally for your first bs go with the geddon. Its a sweet looking ship (not that it matter to most) but it also does good damage. And the cap reduction due to bs skills is awesome. it can tank well enough and fit 5 heavy drones which for ratting are ace
the fact that the geddon can hold 5 heavies makes it better for ratting than the apoc. Especailly if your not fighting sansha's. your drones do as much or more damage than your guns vs heavy tanked rats oh well lvl 5 drone interfacing ftw...
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2006.12.08 18:56:00 -
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If i had to choose again with not maxed skills i would go for the Apoc as it is easier to fit and is much more forgiving to mistakes (cap bonus helps a lot).
------------------------------------------------------- Sig was removed due to derogatory comments towards a group of people. -Karl Chroimcer
I like that.
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Dupac
Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.08 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Xian
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Thor Xian Armageddon is easily the best all around BS for the money. You can't go wrong choosing it.
Unless you are fighting Minmatar t2 ships :)
I'm sure it does alright vs them too, just takes longer.
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Aladine
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:21:00 -
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Ok, thanks alot everyone!!! Im going to buy an Apoc, one thing im wondering is would it be worth it to try and get some armor plate on the apoc or just go with resists? I will allways have resists on my apoc with hardners, but what about the extra plate?
Also should i really try and get 2 LAR on my apoc?
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Skraelingz
Gallente Gallente Federal Bank Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:41:00 -
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pve.... resists..... pvp plates and eanm2s or invulns whatever you freaky shield users put on. :\ -----------------------------------------------
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Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Thrawn on 08/12/2006 23:57:06 geddon is by far the better ship.... for someone with at least BS 4 and tech2 large energy turrets
for you the apoc will be much easier to get into and you wont lose it as fast.
once you got 4-5 mill sp or more in gunnery, then get a geddon.
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