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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Testy Mctest on 08/12/2006 19:27:36
Well, I guess there's one way to make sure you win - be unsportsmanlike and don't give your opponents 5 more minutes to log their most important ship in.
Such a shame - the best group in the tourney marred by something like that. Poor show, Red Skull.
And why bother with having reserve pilots if you cant use them? GG, GREAT tourney rules guys.
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The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:27:00 -
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lol 
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Kun6 Fu
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:28:00 -
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Agreed.
I don't think you can blame RS though, it was Lemondes call.
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Shionoya Risa
Caldari
Xenodus Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:28:00 -
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Was waiting on a topic on this... They're not 250 II's, they 200 II's, n00b experts.
I also second what you said.
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen
Muffins of Mayhem
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Helganstandt on 08/12/2006 19:30:32
Sucks for BE to be honest. This was the match I was looking forward to today. I do wish Red Skull would have let them get their guy to log in, but I guess it's their right not to. It's not CCP's fault, nor BE's fault that their apoc pilot couldn't log in.
I think they're blaming iceland though.
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The Alien
Primary Targets
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:28:00 -
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Perhaps they should have waited, but it seems like anyone who can get a leg up these days will use it no matter the moral cost.
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Moph
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:28:00 -
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yep i agree as a competition i think it was bull to say u had to perform an operation in 45 mins.... tbh i think it was pretty lame also to kill the bs at the end.
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Quari Nimbles
Nimbles Covenant
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:28:00 -
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Maybe they should have dropped a can instead?
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Shionoya Risa
Was waiting on a topic on this... They're not 250 II's, they 200 II's, n00b experts.
I also second what you said.
Yeah!! Farjung is a n00b LOL LOL!!
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Roule
The Kennels
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Roule on 08/12/2006 19:29:36
Burn Edan Using log off Tactics now?
....Anyhow what a shame i was looking forward to this fight when i saw the groups
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:29:00 -
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Lemonde started the match, fire your flames at him not RS/TC
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: The Alien
Perhaps they should have waited, but it seems like anyone who can get a leg up these days will use it no matter the moral cost.
Oh the moral outrage, Jesus would not approve
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Altai Saker
Omniscient Order
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:30:00 -
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You obviously shouldn't be able to substitute someone in.... if you could you would see a lot more crashing and having people coming in with different setups...
Anyway it sucks for BE, but it could happen to anyone.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:31:00 -
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It wasnt LeMondes fault. If Red Skull has protested that for fairness the match should be rescheduled, I very much doubt that there'd be objections from the GMs.
Mind you, Ive never entered a tournament where unsportsmanlike people *dont* get a leg up - cheating is ftw, especially when you do it in a way that makes you look like it was just something that happened. Yes, I class unsportsmanlike conduct as cheating. Such a shame.
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Audrea
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:32:00 -
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BE's fault.. the pilots should have had someone standing by to login in case one of them had ISP problems, power outage or wahtever.
Their problem they didnt trust any friends.
Thats said, would have been nice to see it on equal footing, shame on Red Skull :(
Its great being a Gallente blasterpilot, aint it?
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Captain Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:32:00 -
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Curse of the Medium Container.
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Daniel Jackson > and its not a missle ship
Jim Raynor > thank you for that expert analysis DJ
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:32:00 -
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Congratulations red skulls.
As you see farjunk we don't have a forum squad like yours.
Regarding rules, we red them and accepted them before we signed up.
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Levin Cavil
Omniscient Order
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:33:00 -
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Red Skull were about as sportsmanlike as you can expect really, they saved the Apoc for last and it's not really their fault Heinky dropped. And I would call BS on any team that had someone "disconnect" after seeing my team on grid and then bring in another ship. Not saying BE were trying this, because I don't think they were but you can't use replacement pilots after youve been moved. Lemonde made a rules call and its really the only call to be made, you can't delay fights more. In fact, Lemonde was even warpscrambling the Apoc to give them a chance to log back in. BE just had a rough break and its too bad they didnt get a chance to fight with a full team but there is no way for that to have happened with a disconnnect.
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Popsikle
Caffeine Commodities Company
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
It wasnt LeMondes fault. If Red Skull has protested that for fairness the match should be rescheduled, I very much doubt that there'd be objections from the GMs.
Mind you, Ive never entered a tournament where unsportsmanlike people *dont* get a leg up - cheating is ftw, especially when you do it in a way that makes you look like it was just something that happened. Yes, I class unsportsmanlike conduct as cheating. Such a shame.
How can you blame RS when its 100% BE's fault. It may have been out of BE's hand, but its not RS's fault the apoc CTD.
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Audrea
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Levin Cavil
Red Skull were about as sportsmanlike as you can expect really, they saved the Apoc for last and it's not really their fault Heinky dropped.
Actually they did not left him for last to giev him a chance, but simply because he wasnt a threat to their team :P
Its great being a Gallente blasterpilot, aint it?
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Zrevak Ashek
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:36:00 -
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Thanx for depraving us of one of the top matches.
On the other hand, why couldnt another UDIE member log in with Heinky?
Anyways, UDIE would only have won if that apoc was a combined nosboat/logistic boat.
If it was, I'm sure UDIE would've won.
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Arshes Nei
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Arshes Nei on 08/12/2006 19:38:55
While i think exchanging ships shouldnt be an option, exchanging pilots should be possible in cases like this. GMs even easily could make sure there are no gains throught differences in implants.
Edit: Server issues just make for bad fights and should be reduced in effect on combatants as much as possible, thats what replacement pilots are for imho.
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DirtyHarry
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:38:00 -
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LeMondes call, tough **** to BE
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 08/12/2006 19:39:30
Yeah you noobs, stop blaming it on red skulls, sportsman ship my A**.
who cares? its a tournament, we will all play to win it, cause if the situation was reversed, we would have done the same thing.
There is a lack of trust from heinky, and that cost us. oh well, s**t happens.
We still have a game to play, we can get thru.
Originally by: Zrevak Ashek
Thanx for depraving us of one of the top matches.
On the other hand, why couldnt another UDIE member log in with Heinky?
Anyways, UDIE would only have won if that apoc was a combined nosboat/logistic boat.
If it was, I'm sure UDIE would've won.
it was
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Levin Cavil
Omniscient Order
The Sani Sabik
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Audrea
Originally by: Levin Cavil
Red Skull were about as sportsmanlike as you can expect really, they saved the Apoc for last and it's not really their fault Heinky dropped.
Actually they did not left him for last to giev him a chance, but simply because he wasnt a threat to their team :P
Regardless of their motives the apoc had every chance to get back ingame.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Shin Ra on 08/12/2006 19:44:21
Well that was interesting.
1) Heinky crashed from teamspeak as we were sorting targets etc.
2) We tell them to wait and they do.
3) Heinky comes back on TS.
4) Countdown starts 5,4,3.
5) Heinky crashed from TS + EVE client, countdown paused.
6) We tried to delay as long as possible
7) We tried to phone him, but could not get through.
8) The match was started.
9) We got pwned
10) Heinky logged back in after we were all dead (We don't account share btw Loxy)
11) Much shouting and abuse was directed towards him on ts
12) Everyone quit ts in a fit of rage after cussing eachother out and calling eachother spies
13) I being to formulate a plan for retribution.....
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:51:00 -
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We asked to delay our match till after the next one, but it wasn't to be.
We weren't allowed to bring in another pilot.
They waited 4 or 5 minutes but it wasn't long enough :(
Not much else we can do or say really.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:57:00 -
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Its simple really. Our pilot had ISP problems, the rules stated that the match must start at that time. We all read and agreed to the rules before joining this tourny. So we dont have any hard feelings towards anyone except Heinky's ISP!
Just a shame, but as the old saying goes sh*t happens!
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Zrevak Ashek
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:58:00 -
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Well, we all know about the BOB spies..forum espionage, ts/vent espionage, corp infiltration, bob spies taking command over enemy fleets and warping them to certain death and so on and so on. Why not infiltrate teams they view as a rival for first price?
I mean...the prices for the number one position is downright priceless, afterall
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FooB2
Caldari
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.12.08 20:18:00 -
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personally, red skull wouldve won anyway given the setups. it wouldve just lasted a little longer is all.
is it thier fault an aopponent couldnt be there? is it thier fault it was a dev call and not thiers? no.
its a shame the match went the way it did, but i know for a FACT that if ANY of you were fighting in that tournament, fielding the kind of isk you have to to even stand a chance of winning, then you would choose to have the fight right there and then at the advantage. i recall tyrrax having the same call last tournament when a bob scimitar crashed mid fight? and he still managed to lose, for that matter.
sportsmanship is not an issue.
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