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corbexx
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.13 15:17:22 -
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The next structure blog is up http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/citadels-sieges-and-you/
CCP Nullabor is happy to come along and listen to people discuss issues on this topic.
It will be 17.00 eve time 18th of August.
This will be limited to 15 to 20 people.
TS details will be sent out the day of the sounding board and you'll need to log on to TS with who ever posts in this thread.
Here is a FAQ with some more stuff that may help. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEbMx9xUXje3KH4AppvcjSSoALUVtVEaK6ZZ-zy2Lrs/preview?sle=true
Corbexx for CSM X - Wormholes still deserve better
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Rob Kaichin
Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists
4
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Posted - 2015.08.13 15:31:20 -
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First? *eh-hem*
I'm really looking forwards to this, and hope there will be lots of good questions.
Rob K. |

Kynric
Sky Fighters
331
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Posted - 2015.08.13 15:42:35 -
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What size hauler is required to move the M, L and XL deployables respectively? This is significant as it would limit what could be deployed where. |

calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
368
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Posted - 2015.08.13 15:54:31 -
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Signing up for structure soundboard :)
~Bringer of happiness
http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
.ORLY is recruiting
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gr33nCO
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
0
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:04:46 -
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Singing up to attend |

Braxus Deninard
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
513
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:04:48 -
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Signing up for the structure soundboard as well.
I think the asset safety is a significant concern in w-space. |

corbexx
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1389
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:11:32 -
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Braxus Deninard wrote:Signing up for the structure soundboard as well.
I enjoy a lot of these changes but think the asset safety is a significant concern in w-space.
asset safety is up for discussion in w space.
Corbexx for CSM X - Wormholes still deserve better
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Enta en Bauldry
EVE University Ivy League
41
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:29:17 -
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x |

Urziel99
Multiplex Gaming The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:34:05 -
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Count me in. I've been hasing out these structures for months on podside. Would be nice to talk both ways on this. |

Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1329
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:34:05 -
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is pee el allowed to attend this one?!
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
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Jezza McWaffle
ShipRekt
241
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:52:37 -
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I'll be there again.
Take a look at my startup C5 PvP WH corp adventures, we are recruiting
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Jim Suletu
Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective
5
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Posted - 2015.08.13 16:59:11 -
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I and one or two of my officers will be around :) |

Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
162
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Posted - 2015.08.13 17:22:27 -
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Will not be around, but I want to say after yesterdays roundtable "discussion" I have a newfound appreciation for these WH soundingboards. |

Ruffio Sepico
Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering
74
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Posted - 2015.08.13 17:24:37 -
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corbexx wrote:Braxus Deninard wrote:Signing up for the structure soundboard as well.
I enjoy a lot of these changes but think the asset safety is a significant concern in w-space. asset safety is up for discussion in w space.
It should be up for discussion for all space imho. Double standards just for wh space is silly. Magic loot fairy protection based on what part of space you live in is not very eve-like...
It would just encourage more players to go null (or other places) rather than wspace. Just let it all blow up for purdy kill mails and put the loot fairy to sleep. Much more healthy for the economy too. More stuff need to be replaced -)
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Glasgow Dunlop
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
282
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Posted - 2015.08.13 17:27:26 -
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ill be der
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Glasgow / Edinbvrgh Meet Organiser
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Maria Kitiare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
12
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Posted - 2015.08.13 17:57:35 -
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With a limitation at 20 attending, it might be a good idea to get a nice spread from the different areas of w-space instead of just first comes first served.
Anyway, x'ing up. But also asking, If I end up not being able to attend, can I send a different SSC'er in my place? :) |

Kermit Pental
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
2
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Posted - 2015.08.13 18:06:18 -
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Will try and be there for this might have to fake my death to get out of work early :D |

corbexx
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1390
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Posted - 2015.08.13 18:06:34 -
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Maria Kitiare wrote:With a limitation at 20 attending, it might be a good idea to get a nice spread from the different areas of w-space instead of just first comes first served.
Anyway, x'ing up. But also asking, If I end up not being able to attend, can I send a different SSC'er in my place? :)
if we get over the number (depending on how many over) then yes i will be picking a cross section to get a decent spread of people.
yes you can send some one else but they will have to post on this thread.
Corbexx for CSM X - Wormholes still deserve better
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Jeff Kione
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2015.08.13 18:54:35 -
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Middle of the work day for us USTZ guys, so no x from me.
Few things I've been thinking about:
1. Asset protection in w-space obviously doesn't make sense and runs contrary to how things have been handled in the past. It seems weird that even in other areas of space that these structures (POS stand-ins) would not drop loot like POSes would. I don't like that I can fill my personal hangar with PLEX and have it returned to me after someone else blows up my Citadel.
The very fact that you can lose all of your belongings makes POSes inherently very valuable, which simultaneously makes them worth defending. I'm not sure you'd have the same effect with Citadels if your personal assets are never placed at risk.
Alternatives:
- Maybe some of your stuff drops as loot, some gets destroyed and the rest gets picked up by the movers? Now it's up to the RNG gods.
- Traditional loot dropping
2. Your defenses aren't automated? You're telling me that my behemoth of a Citadel isn't smart enough to defend itself when being attacked/ when a hostile is on grid? I can imagine that from a design point of view you want people actively defending but this means you always need to have someone (or an alt) sitting at your Citadel in order to defend it should someone try to knock over your sandcastle. I can see this becoming a problem similar to trollceptors in sov-null.
As it stands currently, I'm not afraid to leave my POS because my POS will defend itself against lone/ unorganized attackers even if I am somewhere down the chain. If the defenses aren't automated, however, if I am not there to personally guard my Citadel during vulnerability timers, I can be stuck with a reinforced structure that I need to show up later to defend (and chances are it was just a troll in the first place). This does not make sense to me.
I'm sure more will come to me as I continue to digest what I've read today. |

Wander Prian
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
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Posted - 2015.08.13 18:54:59 -
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I will be there as well! |
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Samantha Elroy
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
32
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Posted - 2015.08.13 19:13:41 -
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x
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Lorik'rach
Limited Power Inc It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
1
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Posted - 2015.08.13 19:14:40 -
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Signing up for sounding board |

La loca Fappuccino
Sleeper Insanity Wrong Hole.
14
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Posted - 2015.08.13 19:15:44 -
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Signing up to attend. |

King Creator
Out of Focus Odin's Call
14
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Posted - 2015.08.13 19:18:56 -
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Signing up to attend |

Mira Thanis
Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2015.08.13 19:57:59 -
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gonna attend. |

Bronya Boga
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.08.13 20:09:26 -
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Such a bad time for me :( would have liked to be there. |

epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1769
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Posted - 2015.08.13 20:27:44 -
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I might actually be able to make this, I thought initially I might miss it, Invite please Corbexx?
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Athanor Ruthoern
13. Enigma Project
19
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Posted - 2015.08.13 20:43:42 -
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I would like to come
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Aladar Dangerface
13. Enigma Project
207
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Posted - 2015.08.13 20:46:20 -
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Hopefully we can show the nullbears what its like when adults actually talk about things.
I don't need twitter.
I'm already following you.
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Keskora Yaari
POS Party Low-Class
147
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Posted - 2015.08.13 22:32:57 -
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All signed up! |
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