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Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 10:57:29 -
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Suitonia wrote:Allawa Phantom wrote:like what the **** kind of fix is this? 4K isnt a limit most ships you cant even get to 4K. Even with an over-sized propmod.
What CCP has done here is made Torll Ceptors More Trolly. The 4M limit will INCREASE the amount of Troll Hacking Which is the UNDER LYING PROBLEM with this sov system.
An Atron with a single overdrive can break 4km/s, and catch troll ceptors now.
Not when the troll ceptor is already 300 km off the node by the time you land and his cycle is about to end and then he cloaks lofl.....Have you played eve???
You can just burn away as soon as someone comes in local to defend. No risk for attacker at all
BTW i found a way to stop troll T3's that are interdiction nullified and cloaky...But I was warned that i would be banned if i continued....Thanks CCP fun times.
Here is a good pic of the drone sphere around the gate that worked very well at (Controlling our space ) but I guess im only allowed to control who comes in and out of my space as long as it does not include PvP immune ships that are trolling my stations and stealing my sites. I recommend this for fun. Drone sphere |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 11:10:31 -
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afkalt wrote:Wolfensrevenge wrote:You can just burn away as soon as someone comes in local to defend. No risk for attacker at all I wasn't aware you LIVED in a system whilst NOT being there. That's some impressive shitposting right there. There is no risk for an attacker if no-one is there. WORKING AS INTENDED.
If the system has no stations can you live there ??? Is that the new meta just staying in the same ship in a pos or cloaked all day in a system that is not suitable for CTA formups I guess we should have people AFK cloaked in every system we have any pos in. EVE do you Play it ???? You are the cancer killing this game. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:26:29 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:Wolfensrevenge wrote:BTW i found a way to stop troll T3's that are interdiction nullified and cloaky...But I was warned that i would be banned if i continued....Thanks CCP fun times. Good job for discovering a decloaking tactic that's been around (and bannable if it affects server performance) since 2006. It has nothing to do with fozziesov and nothing to do with this thread.
It might not be new but the fact that these PVP immune ships can take SOV is new and its a real problem when trying to (control) space. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:33:47 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:Wolfensrevenge wrote:BTW i found a way to stop troll T3's that are interdiction nullified and cloaky...But I was warned that i would be banned if i continued....Thanks CCP fun times. Good job for discovering a decloaking tactic that's been around (and bannable if it affects server performance) since 2006. It has nothing to do with fozziesov and nothing to do with this thread.
It might not be new but the fact that PvP immune ships can now troll/take sov is new and its a problem that needs fixed...The fix should be no nullified ships can take sov peroid. That way an alliance can actually (control) the space they are living in. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:53:58 -
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Now that I really think about the problem without ships being locked on grid there will never be an escalation worth while...Ships that are locked on grid will provide escalation and promote fights lock the ships on grid according to their entosis range. Problem solved fun fights INC. That way someone has a reason to field a tanked ship and a reason to bring a fleet to defend it.
I think that would be a great solution at this point and provide a lot of content for everyone involved and if a node is being captured allow an opponent entosis to stalemate it locking both ships on grid until the link is deactivated promoting escalation on both sides or do just like the alliance torny if a ship leaves the max range of the entosis then Boom you are now flying a pod.
These changes would make the risk vs reward worth while on both sides. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:11:43 -
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Icycle wrote:i would like to mention someting into record that has not been addressed in while. How is it ok to nerf entosis ships to do 4k m/s but its ok for pilot in a dramil or daredevil do 13k m/s? There is something really wrong there. And thats not the fastest speed!
I agree I hate restristions but if your going to have risk something needs to be done if you lock the ship on grid that would fix the problem then a defender could start a counter entosis to stalemate locking the troll ship on grid in turn you or another ship could then have the option of running it down and killing it or waiting for reinforcements to come. The attacker cannot leave the grid until the node is captured one way or another and same for the defender its a fight and once you get in the ring your committed.
Two ships enter 1 ship leaves. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:23:30 -
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aussieftw wrote:Thank you CCP, you are on good way. But 4000m/s speed for entosis ship is still too much i think. Attackers should fight if they want sov, not run around like rabbits.
Two ships enter 1 ship leaves. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:31:22 -
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Icycle wrote:Wolfensrevenge wrote:Icycle wrote:i would like to mention someting into record that has not been addressed in while. How is it ok to nerf entosis ships to do 4k m/s but its ok for pilot in a dramil or daredevil do 13k m/s? There is something really wrong there. And thats not the fastest speed! I agree I hate restristions but if your going to have risk something needs to be done if you lock the ship on grid that would fix the problem then a defender could start a counter entosis to stalemate locking the troll ship on grid in turn you or another ship could then have the option of running it down and killing it or waiting for reinforcements to come. The attacker cannot leave the grid until the node is captured one way or another and same for the defender its a fight and once you get in the ring your committed. Two ships enter 1 ship leaves. Not sure if its a troll or not...
The only thing thats a troll around here is this sov mechanic and risk free timer generation and node capturing. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:37:23 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Marcus Covinus wrote:It's hilarious to continue to watch groups like MOA chestbeat like an ape about how great the new sov system is when all they do is troll the system with no intention of actually holding any sov.
I too, have noticed that the only people who are happy about this are those who have no intention of ever holding sov, and are only cheering for punitive mechanics against those who do. Why they're even part of the discussion, I do not know. It's pretty telling of the system in general. But CCP never did learn to take into account where feedback is coming from. For me, the really funny part is how literally all of this was foreseen in the first three pages of the entosis announcement, but was ignored in the flood of "grr nullsec" drooling. That's genuinely hilarious.
Its true and btw Long live JAMES315 Now a risk free Nullsec is killing eve as well.
Why a Risk-Free Highsec Would Kill EVE Online |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:41:56 -
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Michelle Audier wrote:The group most responsible for popularizing the use of 'weaponized boredom' disapproves en masse? To me, that implies that CCP is on the right track.
Posting on an alt because I'm ashamed of (almost) all of you - don't want my main(s) tainted with the stench from this thread. Lately, the EVE Online community has been setting new lows for behavior - stop it.
I smell a salty super pilot. |
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Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:45:40 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Michelle Audier wrote:The group most responsible for popularizing the use of 'weaponized boredom' disapproves en masse? To me, that implies that CCP is on the right track.
Posting on an alt because I'm ashamed of (almost) all of you - don't want my main(s) tainted with the stench from this thread. Lately, the EVE Online community has been setting new lows for behavior - stop it. If you only base your opinion on the system on who is or is not against it, then you don't really have an opinion at all. You're just a lemming with huge blinders on, like most anyone who defines themselves solely in opposition to something. Also, I would like to reiterate the old idea of banning NPC corp posters from every forum but New Citizens. Just throwing it out there.
Agreed risk free posting is just as bad as risk free pvp. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:00:28 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Wolfensrevenge wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Michelle Audier wrote:The group most responsible for popularizing the use of 'weaponized boredom' disapproves en masse? To me, that implies that CCP is on the right track.
Posting on an alt because I'm ashamed of (almost) all of you - don't want my main(s) tainted with the stench from this thread. Lately, the EVE Online community has been setting new lows for behavior - stop it. If you only base your opinion on the system on who is or is not against it, then you don't really have an opinion at all. You're just a lemming with huge blinders on, like most anyone who defines themselves solely in opposition to something. Also, I would like to reiterate the old idea of banning NPC corp posters from every forum but New Citizens. Just throwing it out there. Agreed risk free posting is just as bad as risk free pvp. I'm not talking about risk, I'm talking about one particular demographic that is most commonly used for trolling. NPC corp alts. Anyway, regarding the sov system. Does anyone else think that a full rebalance of the Dreadnaught class is in order at this point? With the incoming rollout of citadel structures to replace POSes, all of which will also require the jesus laser to contest, the Dreadnaught has just had it's one and only role in the game very literally removed.
Not sure what needs to be done here but we have used dreads just last week to kill triage carriers on a node. It was a great fight and they were needed but i would like to see something done about carrier damage now that the need to be on field to get fighters on grid.. the DPS from a carrier to a super is just silly.... 2 battleships can do carrier dps and project it better in most cases... I think most dreads are fine atm but carriers are really bad as far as being combat fit (not just for reps) but then again i think battleships need a damage buff as well.... I dont think CCP will do this for fear Nullbears will make to much isk and use more plex to sub their accounts.... Tinfoil hat activate. But realy most cruisers can do Battleship dps that seems wrong in almost every way considering your trading a ton of maneuverability.
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Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:13:01 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: I too, have noticed that the only people who are happy about this are those who have no intention of ever holding sov, and are only cheering for punitive mechanics against those who do. Why they're even part of the discussion, I do not know.
Oh, I think you do sir (this is best read in Sherlock Holmes voice). Same reason they were so happy at the announcement of siphons, they thought it it was a chance for the marginal/disenfranchised/impotent types to FINALLY strike at the "big bads" that they otherwise couldn't touch. As it was then, it will be again , silence when the people who thought they were getting something find out that the changes only make the big bad blob people even stronger than they were before. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to killing NPCs by the boatload in my fortress like solar system made fortress like by my killing of boatloads of npcs.
Npc's should be removed from the game. No more farming crosses. Mine something build something or kill something worth isk. if you cant do any of these buy a plex or mine a moon. true content from players only. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:59:58 -
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Icycle wrote:afkalt wrote:Have the newbros kill them: [Atron, newbro kill farming] Overdrive Injector System II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Damage Control II 5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I All Meta barring the OD (lol hull upgrades II) and the DC (lol hull upgrades IV). 4743/6781m/s with heat. Feed the newbros delicious kills My point exactly. Heck you dont even need the tech 2 stuff. You can easelly do this with tech 1 only.
You guys have never played eve? Your not going to catch a ceptor with a 250 Km headstart going 750ms faster......Get your head out of jita 4-4
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Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.20 03:50:42 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:And we have another gewn tears gem here! Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:Faction warfare pays better than Sov and your AFK most of the time alone in a site... Wormholes Significantly pay more then Null-Sec and you can just go on day trips in and out of em. Incursions pay better than Null-sec and it is all PVE. Depending on your luck.. Chasing Tags and BPC's in Low-sec can also be more lucrative than null-sec. 2013 nerf hisec tears, and here I thought after all those hisec nerfs CCP landed I won't taste those anymore. He must have been frozen for 2 years... Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:No reason to go to war and kick over a sandcastle when that Castle has nothing worth pillaging. As more and more new entities move out into Null-sec they will learn that the large isk faucets have been greatly reduced. Holding Sov to build and sell supers? For what reason do we have to buy them? Looking to hold Sov for .. well.. supers was really the reason to hold Sov. Moons are everywhere. So why are there wars all over south from fountain to drone regions? Some people must have not heard there is no reason to fight yet, I guess. Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:Null-sec is not stagnant because of a Big Blue Donut. Null-sec was not Stagnant because of Dominion and Structure Grinding. Null-sec became Stagnant when everything being Fought for was removed or greatly nerfed. Put in something worth breaking NIPS/NAPS for... watch how quick people start breaking them. Give alliance leaders reasons to risk assets for better rewards, and we will have fights all the time again, at least until the next OTEC or something is built. Isn't propagoonda's official position is that there is no blue donut? It seems like it's not as strong as usual, not being able to convince even average gewnie anymore... Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:Just like in real life.. Empires need a reason to invade another Empire. Resources are always a good motivator. Moons at one time were, but now moons for everyone \o/ Something new needs to be added to fight over. Hi-sec has Incursions, Faction warfare has the LP points, Soon we have Drifter content. Something needs to be added that will make a group want to pull its stakes and fly across the galaxy and open fire upon someone to stake claim. Currently this Everyone Vs Everyone game lacks any real Conflict Driver. There is a myriad of reasons. Boredom is a valid reason. It's not the game's fault that your coalition is more into fear than boredom and would rather drop half the galaxy than fight.
I Live and just took sov in the south.. We did it because our players had nothing to do. There is no isk to be made here other than building caps( that are not really in high demand).As a line member we have no SRP, are forced to rat in pipe systems, and have no reason to mine because the zombie dead in highsec mine more than you could ever want. In fact most of our line members run incursions in highsec to make isk to fund the pvp in null that they once loved or station trade at crazy prices to make some profit for the insane time it takes to get things moved in. Everything about the (Null Food Chain) is broken mainly because highsec has an unlimited supply of ATM machine wealth to feed all of eve.
I agree with everyone that says null is dry when it comes to isk. Highsec is the best risk vs reward out there incursions still make null look silly and you are not generating content for anyone but NPC's and yourself why risk a ship or inconsistent isk cycles in null when you can farm endlessly (now with insurance as well) in highsec with no risk.
CCP says risk Vs reward is there drive but nothing could be farther from the truth. The theme park MMO that James315 foretold has arrived. Now its time to move to highsec and go afk with your macro's on.
The risk vs reward is so bad in null that FOZZI FORCES PEOPLE TO RAT !!!!! if you have to force someone to rat then clearly there are a million better ways to make isk... how is that rewarding.
Why a Risk-Free Highsec Would Kill EVE Online its finally effecting null in a major way.
Emergent game play is dead its only arranged PVP from here on out. that's what these times are. |
Wolfensrevenge
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:57:42 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:These fights have nearly nothing to do with sov. It's goodfight in it's finest. G-Club dudes are great frenemies and I give them huge kudos. No-one would ever want to purge them out of their regions while they ignite such conflicts. The sheer amount of fun all involved side have can only be merited to the event-makers of corresponding alliances, and if anythig, such fights are happening despite the efforts of certain CCP developers. Fozziesov battles should be, by design, spread across the constellation - while what we see is a good old blob slugfest. By the way, a new battle happened just recently. Once again, sov was not a factor, we just wanted to brawl.
Was a good Fight they came we fought everyone had fun but they were coming to get the reinforce timer. In a proper fleet not a troll ceptor... Hats off to G-Club for the fun. |
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