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Niraco79 Gallente Hunters Agency	Posted - 2006.12.11 10:55:00 - [331] Edited by: Niraco79 on 11/12/2006 10:55:56 I was EDF once and i feel sad for the regular people from EDF that witness the traitor work. Most of them are very good players. But as i knew POS roles were the highest security tier in EDF. I was an inferior officer in combat wing and i did not had access even to tier 3 security. So who was the spy? Qayos, Andynoble, Flashspawn, Bretonia (i really don`t think bret will do that), Genrom, Notleh, Falgaroth? List is very short. I feel sad for the guy who did it. U just proved yourself as low as u cannot be in other online game. The fault is not on the BOB side. Is on the EDF guy who falled into greed. Gratz to BOB to point again the weakness that caused some time ago my leave from EDF. I was right, but this does not make me feel better. ________________ THE MEGA NOOB
Voltron Caldari Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:05:00 - [332] Multsanti 4 prez, you've earned a vacation as far as I'm concerned, get to Hawaii stat. Volt It's great touching your own dink isn't it?
Angelus X Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:07:00 - [333] Originally by: KIAEddZ For all the smack and whining in this thread, simply put, ASCN would of done the same thing to BoB in a heart beat, without a glance away, without a second thought. If ASCN say they wouldn't... quite simply they are liars. Finally, why is that so difficult for people to understand? Those people not involved in this conflict sprouting their soapbox bullst need to take a step back and try to keep their BoB-hate in check and engage their brains. Originally by:** KIAEddZ Their point that it makes BoB look weak is fair, and BoB will need to backup thier claims that the ASCN station would of fallen without the spy, through force... I would agree with you on that point Eddz, had 0OYZ been the first ASCN system we have conquered. The fact is, it's not, we've already steamrolled an entire region belonging to them. BoB have already captured numerous stations without the help of a spy/defector. Originally by: KIAEddZ ...and the nest few weeks will no doubt see that claim substantiated or debunked, the poeple of Eve are watching, and so far BoB have done all they have promised to do.... so far. It would be interesting for someone to run a poll or (isk) betting thread for predictions on the outcome of this war. Despite all the whinging and crying and empty threats from ASCN, I very much doubt many people will be betting for the hobbits. -----
Dufas Amarr Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:24:00 - [334] WTS more pos fuel in H8 GO BOB GO __________
Helen STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:33:00 - [335] Originally by: Riddlock 13 pages of crap :) QFT. Now get back to pew pew Ridd.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:36:00 - [336] Edited by: Rebellion on 11/12/2006 11:36:27 Christopher Multsanti, is what you are posting here your personal opinion, or is this the position of your corporation and alliance? If this is your personal opinion alone, then it's not worth replying to. I don't see why BoB have to defend any usage of espionage. Espionage has been part of EVE since BETA. I know this for a fact. Those of you who have been around for as long, or longer, that do not know this are fools that have failed to learn from history. Slowboat, the difference between sabotage and corp thievery lie in the context of the action, the former is a strategic part of war, the latter is for personal profit. I don't need to explain this to you because you won't listen anyway, since your intent is only to troll BoB. SiN x pointed this out: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=205035 To the fools that don't know how to read, I'll quote: Quote: Just for the record, CCP have no problem with alt characters being used to infiltrate, spy, steal, haul or even sit 200km above a gate, they are all valid game tactics. This happened a year ago, people, but CCP's position had been consistent since release, even since beta. Heck, even the description of EVE in the game box is consistent. Did you stop and think of what game you're playing? Given the ineptness of how security's been handled, I'm beginning to doubt if you're even capable of intelligent thought. You can do unto BoB what BoB does unto you. That, people, is called playing fair. You complain that you can't infiltrate BoB because our core consists of people that are just too close to each other since even before EVE began? Well, that's to be expected. We play to win, and that's the hurdle you need to fight against. Espionage is an art, the sophistication of which escapes the uncreative. I remember when an espionage attempt of ours failed. Homo Erectus signed up to spy on Xan as a deep infiltration agent. He found out everything about how they worked, and he ended up liking them too much that all intentions of sabotage were pretty much shelved, and we ended up becoming allies. Besides, we're assuming that BoB had to plant a spy into EDF to accomplish this. That may not necessarily be true. I hate having to give hints, but some people are just too dense. I ask you now: who do you trust?
Bones Mcgee	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:41:00 - [337] Congrats on becoming super nerds!!
Joram McRory Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:46:00 - [338] Might have been said ^^, but I can't be arsed to read it all. In my opinion it's not winning that matters, but how you play the game. I won't suggest that anything BoB does (generally or in this specific case) is't allowable. I just don't think it is "honourable". Personally I would rather play fair and lose, otherwise there is no point in playing, but that is just me. I made this analogy on our internal forums, and i think it's apt: I don't mind the odd elbow in the side when the ref isn't looking, but using a spy to offline a tower is like bringing knifes onto the pitch: effective but pointless Joram My Photography site
Moghydin Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:49:00 - [339] If BoB had a long term sleeper agent to do this, I can agree that spying is an art. Just think about time, that person would have to invest in a computer game, for actively playing on his BoB and EDF accounts If it was some greedy asshat, who sold his friends for a bunch of virtual 0's and 1's on CCP servers, that person isn't even worthy to spit on his ugly face.
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:50:00 - [340] Originally by: Joram McRory In my opinion it's not winning that matters, but how you play the game. Ok, i'll make you a deal.. You play the game in your own way, and we'll win. How's that sound? - --------- Originally by: John McCreedy we WILL kill every last f*ing one of you motherless sheep shagging peices of skunk st

Sgt Jinxed Obsidian Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:59:00 - [341] Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 11/12/2006 11:36:27 Christopher Multsanti, is what you are posting here your personal opinion, or is this the position of your corporation and alliance? If this is your personal opinion alone, then it's not worth replying to. What does it matter really. The opinion/statement is there in any event... Either you reply to it or you leave it alone. Trying to force him to back down just in case he doesn't wanna involve his alliance or corp is just blah. At least he has the balls to post with his main.
Sinlare Gallente Sinlare Auditorium	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:00:00 - [342] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti I am not really sure how all what of you just said changes anything that I said, you still have no class. I can't even believe you trying to dispute that. Edit: Well you could try to dispute it, but you are not doing a very good job. So, how many spies did e-r have again when they operated around syndicate? You have so much class Chris, it just blows me away.
Joram McRory Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:04:00 - [343] Originally by: Robert Dobbs Originally by: Joram McRory In my opinion it's not winning that matters, but how you play the game. Ok, i'll make you a deal.. You play the game in your own way, and we'll win. How's that sound? Did you not read my post, or are you just thick as pig ****? The inferance in what I wrote was exactly as you propose, so why did you post? Joram My Photography site
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:09:00 - [344] Originally by: Joram McRory I made this analogy on our internal forums, and i think it's apt: I don't mind the odd elbow in the side when the ref isn't looking, but using a spy to offline a tower is like bringing knifes onto the pitch: effective but pointless Your analogy doesn't work. For it to be an analogy to the current issue, knife stabbing had to be an ALLOWED action in a football match (as spying etc. is a FULLY allowed action in EVE)!! Your complaint is basically that ASCN didn't bring their footie boots, shin protectors etc. to the footie match, so BoB shouldn't wear theirs either and are lame cheaters because they did EVE is not played by the rules ASCN make up as they go (whenever they find out they're useless at something). It's played by the rules CCP has implemented in the game mechanics (and for the current issue at hand, has been promoting since the start of EVE). If you don't like that, then EVE is not a game for you! My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Bishop D'Rohan Salvation Army Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:15:00 - [345] Originally by: Tzrailasa Originally by: Joram McRory I made this analogy on our internal forums, and i think it's apt: I don't mind the odd elbow in the side when the ref isn't looking, but using a spy to offline a tower is like bringing knifes onto the pitch: effective but pointless Your analogy doesn't work. For it to be an analogy to the current issue, knife stabbing had to be an ALLOWED action in a football match (as spying etc. is a FULLY allowed action in EVE)!! Your complaint is basically that ASCN didn't bring their footie boots, shin protectors etc. to the footie match, so BoB shouldn't wear theirs either and are lame cheaters because they did EVE is not played by the rules ASCN make up as they go (whenever they find out they're useless at something). It's played by the rules CCP has implemented in the game mechanics (and for the current issue at hand, has been promoting since the start of EVE). If you don't like that, then EVE is not a game for you! Tbh, BOB aint good at PVP. They are just good at manipultating enemies.
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:17:00 - [346] Originally by: Bishop D'Rohan Originally by: Tzrailasa My stuff... Tbh, BOB aint good at PVP. They are just good at manipultating enemies. Thank you for the compliment. Now go look at the BoB killboard and correct your little mistake at the start of your post My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Yua Tamulin Amarr Ashani Research Institute	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:19:00 - [347] They like make them blow themselves up or something...
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:21:00 - [348] Originally by: Joram McRory Did you not read my post, or are you just thick as pig doo-doo? It obviously had the intended effect. - --------- Originally by: John McCreedy we WILL kill every last f*ing one of you motherless sheep shagging peices of skunk st
OzaLoni Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:21:00 - [349] Edited by: OzaLoni on 11/12/2006 12:24:04 Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 11/12/2006 10:46:54 Originally by: OzaLoni Originally by: Christopher Multsanti BOB offlined the towers so they can say they won again. Is anyone really suprised? BOB have no class. haha... we play the game, we pvp, to the fullest extent... as the corporation section of the player guide tells us Quote: Spying, scheming, double-dealing, and espionage are devilishly delicious features of EVE for those who relish walking on the dark side. Corporation leaders are urged to exercise extreme caution when accepting new members, particularly when granting access to their private communications and corporate holdings. There are criminal elements in EVE who can, and will, take advantage of unsuspecting marks. So we play the game how ccp intended. tbh as you don't know the facts of exactly what happened then why post here? Last I heard you guys were not in feyth so? I am not really sure how all what of you just said changes anything that I said, you still have no class. I can't even believe you trying to dispute that. Edit: Well you could try to dispute it, but you are not doing a very good job. It was just to state how we play and that it is all within the bounds of the game, so in essence we play as the game allows. There is no question of trying to be classy about it, the chance presented itself in its own way and we took it. Just like Eddz said ( omg i've found something to agree with you on ), war is open season on your enemy. So it seems to me that you would not sieze such an opportunity given the chance, against us or any other target? Being the classy outfit that you are? right
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:31:00 - [350] My my, the BoB forum warrior squad is back in full force now their little propaganda post is biting them in the face once again when the lies and omissions are exposed. You're getting predictable. In the past it was always the short list of RA, BE and AAA when it came to describing lame tactics. Guess we're gonna have to make that the 'RA, BE, AAA and BoB' list now. Enjoy the company.

Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:33:00 - [351] Originally by: OzaLoni It was just to state how we play and that it is all within the bounds of the game, so in essence we play as the game allows. There is no question of trying to be classy about it, the chance presented itself in its own way and we took it. Just like Eddz said ( omg i've found something to agree with you on ), war is open season on your enemy. So it seems to me that you would not sieze such an opportunity given the chance, against us or any other target? Being the classy outfit that you are? right This will be my final word on the matter otherwise my corp m8's will murder me. I was not referring to your lack of class through tactics, I said BOB offlined the towers, so they can say they won again. Some people in Eve can win a war without a 15 page thread every week. thats the difference. [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:46:00 - [352] Originally by: Malachon Draco My my, the BoB forum warrior squad is back in full force now their little propaganda post is biting them in the face once again when the lies and omissions are exposed. You're getting predictable. In the past it was always the short list of RA, BE and AAA when it came to describing lame tactics. Guess we're gonna have to make that the 'RA, BE, AAA and BoB' list now. Enjoy the company. As far as I can see on the map, killboard and certain members inside BoB comments, it seems as if they're telling the truth; they have a pos in AZN-D2(your home system IIRC?) and they have captured an outpost in Freyth... Soooo...where are they lying good sir? Or is this one of those responses without actually reading what they claimed they accomplished.
Bishop D'Rohan Salvation Army Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:46:00 - [353] Edited by: Bishop D''Rohan on 11/12/2006 12:48:30 Originally by: Tzrailasa Originally by: Bishop D'Rohan Originally by: Tzrailasa My stuff... Tbh, BOB aint good at PVP. They are just good at manipultating enemies. Thank you for the compliment. Now go look at the BoB killboard and correct your little mistake at the start of your post Thanks for the tip. After viewing the BOB killboard, i have to correct that mistake. /correction starts By comparing BOB and other well known entities in EVE,i can conclude from the killboards i¦ve seen, that BOB could be alot better at pvp, if compared to other corps. /corrections ends Second phrase unchanged though.

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:48:00 - [354] Locking the thread, its run its course and is going off OP topic. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long

OzaLoni Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 12:54:00 - [355] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: OzaLoni It was just to state how we play and that it is all within the bounds of the game, so in essence we play as the game allows. There is no question of trying to be classy about it, the chance presented itself in its own way and we took it. Just like Eddz said ( omg i've found something to agree with you on ), war is open season on your enemy. So it seems to me that you would not sieze such an opportunity given the chance, against us or any other target? Being the classy outfit that you are? right This will be my final word on the matter otherwise my corp m8's will murder me. I was not referring to your lack of class through tactics, I said BOB offlined the towers, so they can say they won again. Some people in Eve can win a war without a 15 page thread every week. thats the difference. Well i'm sorry to hear you are not able to engage in a fair discussion.. but oh well... However your comment makes no sense at all.. It all comes down to you not knowing the facts and making assumptions and accusations based on well, rumours? Making statements about us, without any idea of the facts, without bothering to ask us what the facts are. Yeah now that is a classy way to treat people.. don't ya think


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