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Nyalnara
AdAstra. Beach Club
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Posted - 2015.08.21 00:02:24 -
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I'd say, the deflation of ISKs. Which could mostly be linked to the increase on PLEX uses in recent times. Which is not a problem in my opinion, people paying PLEXes with RL money receiving more ISKes is fine by me. Of course it's harder to buy PLEXes IG wit ISKs, but who cares?
In case of ponies, keep calm and start running.
French half-noob. Founder of [DEUPP]Dark Evil Undead Ponies Productions.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
400
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Posted - 2015.08.21 00:16:47 -
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Grorious Reader wrote:Removing plex wouldn't solve anything. People would just buy isk through illegitimate means and continue doing what they're doing.
Ahahahaha |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1582
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Posted - 2015.08.21 09:01:03 -
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Mag's wrote:Phaade wrote:...
Agreed...
PLEX did a ton of damage. Can you explain what this ton of damage actually was, for those of us not in the know?
My guess would be 1000 Kg of damage, but it's not clear if this was in a single ton slug or a cluster ton of 1000 1 Kg kinetic warheads |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
453
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Posted - 2015.08.21 13:55:26 -
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Zan Shiro wrote:New player leaving because of ganks is going to leave regardless. They are looking for another type of game. Which is cool...we all got our tastes. To broad of a generalization, players leaving because of ganks is a very real thing and flatly stating that all of them would have left the game anyway is wrong, you have no idea what any one player may or may not have done. |
Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.21 18:30:25 -
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Donnachadh wrote:Zan Shiro wrote:New player leaving because of ganks is going to leave regardless. They are looking for another type of game. Which is cool...we all got our tastes. To broad of a generalization, players leaving because of ganks is a very real thing and flatly stating that all of them would have left the game anyway is wrong, you have no idea what any one player may or may not have done.
Ganks are a part of eve, so yes, they would have left eventually. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
8528
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Posted - 2015.08.21 20:07:10 -
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Nyalnara wrote:I'd say, the deflation of ISKs. Which could mostly be linked to the increase on PLEX uses in recent times. Which is not a problem in my opinion, people paying PLEXes with RL money receiving more ISKes is fine by me. Of course it's harder to buy PLEXes IG wit ISKs, but who cares? I do not think you understand how PLEX actually works.
PLEX only transfers liquid ISK from one player to another (in exchange for 30 days of pre-paid game time).
It does not add any ISK to the economy (in fact, it removes some ISK through taxes and fees).
No, the bigges culprit for ISK deflation comes from NPC bounties (which comes from missions, 'roid belts, and anomalies).
But even this is not the only reason for the rise of PLEX prices. The grand majority of PLEX is being horded (for what reason, no one is quite sure) and it is easier than ever to earn some kind of income (Faction Warfare, SOV changes, and the increased safety of high-sec (which does increase income because you are looking over your shoulder less and can thus devote more time and energy into raking in as much ISK as possible)). Meanwhile demand has remained largely the same.
What you are proposing in the post I quoted above is a direct injection of ISK into the economy... which actually WILL deflate the value of ISK. And it will also be a boon to illicit ISK traders because they can beat any ISK amount set at a certain dollar value (PLEX is successful in fighting Real Money Trading because players can assign their own value for gametime... which will always be the highest price possible).
How did you Veterans start?
The Skillpoint System and You
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Nyalnara
AdAstra. Beach Club
125
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Posted - 2015.08.22 01:20:40 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:I do not think you understand how PLEX actually works.
PLEX only transfers liquid ISK from one player to another (in exchange for 30 days of pre-paid game time).
No, i'm just voluntarily not considering parts of the context, that don't fit with what i'm trying to persuade people of. Just like you do, too.
DIT: Also, demand as not remained the same, it has gone up, mostly due to ship skins being available through aurum, which are mostly converted from PLEX.
In case of ponies, keep calm and start running.
French half-noob. Founder of [DEUPP]Dark Evil Undead Ponies Productions.
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
454
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Posted - 2015.08.22 01:41:02 -
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Mr Mieyli wrote:Donnachadh wrote:Zan Shiro wrote:New player leaving because of ganks is going to leave regardless. They are looking for another type of game. Which is cool...we all got our tastes. To broad of a generalization, players leaving because of ganks is a very real thing and flatly stating that all of them would have left the game anyway is wrong, you have no idea what any one player may or may not have done. Ganks are a part of eve, so yes, they would have left eventually. You are incorrect in this. For many it is the timing of that first gank and how it leaves then ISK wise that is the major factor. If they are ganked in the ONLY ship they have that is not the worthless rookie ships and that ship cost them ALL of the ISK they have they are far more likely to quit. On the other hand if they already have several ships, or a decent ISK balance so they can replace that lost ship then they are far more likely to brush it off and stay in the game.
You are correct ganks are a part of the game and they will happen to players both new and old, when they happen some will stay in the game and others will not. However to state that all players that leave because of a gank would have left at some point in the future is a bold faced lie, you have no idea what they may or may not have done tomorrow, or a week from now or a year from now. |
Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
2944
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Posted - 2015.08.22 02:23:30 -
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to the original concept?
No, just no.
For me? One of Eve's draws WAS that plex existed, that if I chose to run on that treadmill I could 'play for free'
Since 2008 I have maybe used one plex bought and paid for with isk. Rest of the time? It is a cool talking point and something other people do but that does not mean I think it should be removed.
so, no.
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